You helped - you contribute?

Canada
March 5, 2012 2:45pm CST
It takes 2 people to create a baby the natural way right? So shouldn't both parents have a responsibility in ensuring the child grows up with as much as 2 parents could provide? I am in a situation where my son's father is a total absolute deadbeat, refuses to have anything to do with the child and has never had an interest. Doesn't want to provide any form of child support? Absolutely nothing actually said the choice was yours not mine you had the kid you raise it! After years in a courtroom child support was established hardly enough to buy milk with but nonetheless it was something. It has never been paid. When he decides it's time to bring his support down to 0 again he files a motion with the courts and they squash the debt. I have had no problems raising my son, he's an amazing boy, I don't care that he's had nothing to do with our son, it's been nice having him all to myself and not having to run everything past his father. But my concern here is the system removes the debt when the payor whines loud enough and to get any enforcement to collect when there is debt is like pulling teeth? Am I the only one with this "beef" with the system?
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16 responses
• India
6 Mar 12
Always both of them need to contribute till the baby have get some Maturity. It's the Good parenting, need to take care of our child is our important part of the parenting. We must to share this work in all contribution.
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• Canada
7 Mar 12
I agree, but you can't get blood from a stone....in this case he's a boulder
@Metatronik (6199)
• Pasay, Philippines
6 Mar 12
Honestly I can't understand about it but then are you married with the father of your kid? It is so nerve for him to say that it is your choice to have kid not his, unless you adapted it.
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• Canada
7 Mar 12
I am married to someone other than the father of my son. The father of my son to this day doesn't want anything at all to do with him.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Mar 12
hi glitznglittre I think there are a lot of other mo ms like you who are not getting the child support the weaselly men are supposed to send and some help out the deadbeat dad. I an interested too'is seeing if others also have the same problems on mylot.
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• Canada
7 Mar 12
Oh I am sure there are many that don't get the child support payments they need and deserve. Sometimes I just feel like I am the only person that doesn't.
@MandaLee (3758)
• United States
5 Mar 12
No. I think both parents should contribute financially to support the child. The system is broken and definitely needs to be fixed. Have a wonderful day!
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• Canada
5 Mar 12
Thank you I have to agree with you broken and in bad need of repair.
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• United States
5 Mar 12
The system is broken and no one is breaking a sweat to get it fixed. There is the no payment problem such as you have and it works both ways. If the dad is raising the child, there are deadbeat moms, too. Women can accuse someone of rape and may get sympathy from all sides; the same with physical, mental and verbal abuse, but when a man says it happened to him, he becomes a laughing stock. The justice system we have is not perfect by a long stretch, but compared to the countries that give no trials, or wait years before a trial, or stick people under the jail for saying anything against the government, we still have the best. We just need folks in charge who are honest enough and attentive enough to make the system work. Hugs, Maggie
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• Canada
5 Mar 12
Thank you Mysticmaggie your absolutely correct, could be men or women. Fortunately for me it was a consenting act there was no rape or anything else involved just that he didn't want children at that time. I agree get someone involved who cares as it's the kids that suffer not the parents.
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• United States
5 Mar 12
Where do you live? I would suggest a better lawyer and then calling frequently to make sure payment is made. My brother in law is in and out of jail on a bi monthly basis for not paying his support. He was ticked when it happened but the state and fed. taxes all went to his ex via a court order whether he liked it or not.
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• United States
6 Mar 12
That sucks. Too many in today's society feel they can just walk away and not take care of their responsibilities. A friend of ours came home one day to find his 2 month old daughter horse from crying laying in her crib soaked through and starving. Her mother had just got up and walked away. Didn't even leave the girl with anyone. She is now a beautiful 16 year old who has never since that day seen or heard anything from that ((BEEEP))! Not a penny nothing. Another (father also) has custody of his kids. The ex pays when she has a job which is very occasionally. She also spends many a night in the jail house for non payment. Very sad. I wish you luck and the thought that maybe it is just better for your child not to have this sort of person in their life teaching them to be irresponsible.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
I am in Canada the collection in Canada is pretty disfunctional. If you know how to play the system you can get away with anything here.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
6 Mar 12
I don't have children so maybe I should not comment but I think it should be something a man should want to do for their child, but seeing as he is the way he is then it is sad, sad for the child as I guess everyone wants to know a nd be loved by two parents, but if it was me and as I see the way the world is today I would bring the child up by myself and be the lucky one as the father doesn't know what he is missing but know human nature the way it is the father will probably come back and want to be in the life of his sons life when he himself has selfish reasons... I wish you and your son a wonderful life, and always remember you are the lucky one to have your gorgeous son.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
Of course you can comment you have something to contribute and I am interested in what you have to say.... I don't think that his father deserves to come back, why should he be able to walk away for all these years and then come back when he's older and grown up. How would that be fair for either of them they are strangers to each other. I am proud to have raised a wonderful son and know he will go on with good family values to share with his family for what my husband and I have taught him
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• United States
5 Mar 12
Of course both parents should contribute, it does take two! I have a child (now adult) whose father wasn't interested in being involved, I did eventually get some child support, but it was his loss as far as I'm concerned. (Not being in his child's life, I mean.) Are you saying he has managed, more than once, to get his child support debt erased? Do you live in the U.S.? I thought that even if they never paid, the debt remained in place just waiting for them to potentially get some type of income it could be withheld from. I have heard of people who finally get some past-due support long after their children are grown. I know that's not very helpful now, when your child needs it, but it's somewhat gratifying to think that they don't all always get off scot-free, just the same.
• United States
6 Mar 12
Oh, I see, that explains it I guess. Like I mentioned, here when there is a court order the support obligation never goes away. There are deadbeat parents who work under the table or let others support them so they don't have to pay, but if they ever have money in their name the state will get their hands on it and the other parent will get their share of it for the child. You mentioned you have a husband, I'm glad your son has a "dad" in his life. It's the bio-dad who's missing out.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
I am in Canada and yes the courts have removed his debt guessing 5 times now give or take. I have raised my son all these years without his help and he is still getting off scott free. I know my son doesn't care but I know with that little bit of extra from his father that I could do a little more for our son.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
6 Mar 12
I think that system stinks! There are too many women having to raise their children alone and then some people wonder why we have wanted equal rights and why we want to work outside the home. Well..what are we supposed to do? Let our kids starve? Now see..you have me going now. You have me talking about rights. Anyway..I completely understand where you are coming from. I have seen the system work really good for some people and then for others...it has been a complete flop. I think that all children deserve the financial and emotional support that both parents can give but what can one do if the other doesn't provide neither? Your doing a great job with your son. Try not to dwell too much..that's what I had to do. I just enjoyed my kids and give them everything that I could when I could do it. Take care.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
13 Mar 12
Thanks for the best response. It is a great comfort to know that when they grow up they will see things for what they really are.
• Canada
7 Mar 12
Thank you jeninTN, that's exactly what I have done I have raised him to be a brillant person, very handsome and everything that he wants to be, he never gives up he's very strong. I have to believe I met my husband at the opportune time he was starting to get into "man" stuff -- stuff that mom just didn't cut it for. My husband plays sports with him and does the stuff a father would do normally. He's grown up to be quite independant. I am very very proud of him. He has not interest in knowing, or meeting his father.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
5 Mar 12
My ex never cared about his children, my ex bf never cared about his, was even seldom there. He started to show some kind of interest 2 years after I ended our relationship and his other gf kicked him out. He even never accepted them as his kids so official mine have no father at all. He is just interested in me and tries to abuse the kids for that, my friends etc etc. I don't care if the dads pay and my kids don't care about the fact if they have a dad. They are very happy kids and that is the only thing that counts for me. As they say here; the one who is getting them can keep them.
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• Canada
6 Mar 12
I agree he has never cared why should he now. My son and I have a great relationship and my husband now loves him dearly my son considers him his dad. I just don't understand how you can walk away from your children and not feel any remorse? I just don't understand.
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@ShyBear88 (59286)
• Sterling, Virginia
5 Mar 12
Yes the natural way it does take two people to make a baby but not all two people want to have a baby that is why its important to use protection till you know for sure that this person wants a kid with you and will be staying with you or at least helping out in some way shape or form. Some men lie and say yes just to get into a someone's pants but that isn't all men. Good men no matter what if he's with that women or not he'll always want to help out with his kids if not seeing them at least money wise. There are some men that want kids but doesn't want to deal with the mom so they will do water they want to do not deal with the women that some times includes the child. But it doesn't really need to take two to raise a child to a child really its no different if they have two parents or one parent a mom can do a dad's job and dad can do mom job's in raising a kid on there own. I think all single parents with the person that they have a child with would help out in some way or another and it can be hard for some them to get anything for there kids from the other parent. Me I'm lucky I know if something happened to me and my husband he would always stay in our children's life and help out in what ever way he can.
@ShyBear88 (59286)
• Sterling, Virginia
6 Mar 12
Yes I'm lucky in my way and your lucky in your way. Step parents are some times better the biological parents. My husband's step dad isn't one of the good step parents.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
Your very lucky, however I am lucky in another way as I met a really great man years into raising my son who has accepted him as his son and my son just adores him. So really his really impressionable years my husband has been there for him
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@ecaron (678)
• Canada
6 Mar 12
My husband had a friend that had his wages garnished to ensure that his child support payments were made and also I understand that they courts can take away the guy's driver's license too if they don't pay. Anyway, perhaps you could check into these things, ask a lawyer, maybe, Good luck, my lot , friend.
• Canada
7 Mar 12
Oh yes license has been suspended, federal garnishment, credit bureau, you name it its all been done but he just doesn't care. He drives with no license he doesn't care as long as no money goes towards raising his son, the child he never wanted.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
You are absolutely right, it is the responsibility of both parents to raise the child and provide for their needs. They both need to contribute for the upbringing of their child including financial help for paying for the child's needs. The system is definitely defective and needs to be fixed. There isn't much one can do to fight with this system. It can be very difficult to raise a child as a single mom. I just don't understand that how can a parent not care about their own child and pay the child support for their child's needs...
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• Canada
7 Mar 12
Deadbeat parents are unbelievable how can anyone walk away from a life that they created. Now I understand a "father" doesn't hold the same bond that a mother would with carrying the child. but knowing the child you helped create is coming into this world, wouldn't the curiousity about what they look like, how they act, there personality, oh so many things. Any chance he had to not pay he didn't even left a high paying job to work under the table so that he's wages would no longer be garnished.
• India
7 Mar 12
i feel very sorry for ur current status. let me tell u it is not easy going through the courtroom for this kind of of a case wherein one life is in question. i am sure u r doing ur bets for ur son, however the system has its own papers to be completed before anything can be finalised. in between it is for the poor victim to suffer. every counrty have flws in legal cases. It is always very difficult to prove truth ...in ur case it was some alimony...have faith in god and move on
• Canada
7 Mar 12
Oh thank you I have moved on but sometimes we just need to get it out, maybe get some pointers from someone else that may be in the same situation and actually got their money owed.
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
5 Mar 12
I think you are not the only one in this Earth suffer such situation from an irresponsible man. Many single mom also has to raise their own children alone. The system definitely is defective, but we can't do nothing about it, until some new legislators might pay attention to it. Until then, we just have to work in the hard way. By the way, didn't you and your ex talk about whether he likes children or not before your guys absolutely committed to the relationship? Now, he is back out.
• Canada
6 Mar 12
yes we were actually talking about getting married and having kids in a couple of years once we were settled in, but it happened earlier I didn't see it being an issue but he obviously did.
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@Runite (307)
• United States
16 Mar 12
The man caused the pain, the woman felt the pain. The one who caused it is more responsible for it. Still I think both parties should pay equally (unless it was forcefully) as they were the ones who decided to go on.