Why Isnt Hitler A Saint..?

@tessah (6617)
United States
March 17, 2012 7:04pm CST
all of you.. celebrating this day, wearin o`the green, pretending yer irish getting drunk and gorging yerselves on corned beef, do you even know what it is yer celebrating? do you even realize WHY patrick was made a saint? for the same atrocities hitler committed during the holocaust. the rampant slaughter and attempted eradication of the celts. WHY was this man made a saint for the same crimes as pretty much the most hated man in world history? people have lost their children for simply naming their babies after him because HOW could ANYone idolize such a monster? yet, all of you celebrating this day.. this saint patrick.. adore, idolize and revere the same kind of monster. who instead of being looked at as such for torturing and slaughtering men women and children by the MILLIONS.. is held up for sainthood and worshipped. i cant possibly be the only one who is sickened by this, am i ?
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@urbandekay (18278)
18 Mar 12
Where is your evidence for this tendentious claim? all the best urban
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@owlwings (43972)
• Cambridge, England
19 Mar 12
In the small electrical disturbances of a diseased mind, perhaps?
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@urbandekay (18278)
19 Mar 12
all the best urban
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@topffer (42193)
• France
20 Mar 12
What atrocities ? Give me only a source saying that somebody was killed by saint Patrick. He is reputed to have converted Irish without making one martyr -- this does not mean without overthrowing some pagan statues and temples --. Sorry, but you are talking rubbish.
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@owlwings (43972)
• Cambridge, England
18 Mar 12
I fail to see where you got this information that Patrick (or Palladius) slaughtered "men women and children by the MILLIONS". I can find no mention of it in any objective history of St Patrick that I have seen (disregarding those, of course, which are clearly written by people disposed to idolise him). Please quote your sources!
@tessah (6617)
• United States
19 Mar 12
my sources.. catholic studies, theological research, encyclopedias, history books, history channel, news reportss, etc etc. it is common knowledge that patrick was sainted for driving out the snakes from ireland. ask any priest, clergy, look it up yerself.. "snakes" is a gentle euphamism for the druids and pagan clans who wouldnt convert to christianity and were killed for their disobedience against the church of rome. basically he "saved" them from their evil ways. youve never heard of the inquisition? crusades? patrick was one of the missionaries. convert or die.
@owlwings (43972)
• Cambridge, England
19 Mar 12
"it is common knowledge that patrick was sainted for driving out the snakes from ireland" It is true that "snakes" is probably a poetic reference to the pagan religions, since there never were any snakes in Ireland since the Ice Age but, otherwise, it is a popular myth rather than 'common knowledge'. He was certainly not made a saint because of that! There is NO evidence whatsoever that St Patrick used violence in his mission to the Irish and, in fact, there is evidence that Christianity existed in Ireland BEFORE his arrival. You only succeed in making yourself a laughing stock by posting such completely unsubstantiated rubbish and by making reference to the Inquisition and the Crusades (which have nothing whatsoever to do with St Patrick or Ireland).
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@urbandekay (18278)
19 Mar 12
Smells like BS to me all the best urban
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
19 Mar 12
I don't see the Germans celebrating Hitler, but in Ireland they DO celebrate Patrick. Why would they do that if he was the monster you say he was? He did NOT slaughter millions. I don't know what history book you've read, but Patrick loved the people of Ireland. And I don't have to PRETEND I'm Irish on any day.
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
18 Mar 12
I think most people who celebrate don't know or care what this day represents, it's just another excuse to get drunk and act foolish.Someone decided this should be a holiday and people jumped all over it. What bothers me the most is the word "saint" attributed to this monster.A saint represents goodness,pureness and charity which is the total opposite of the man this title was given.
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@shebacs (178)
• Philippines
18 Mar 12
OP, I hope you are twisting the story to what you think it is or was. I mean let's face it, throughout history, many saints have been soldiers/fighters/warriors in wars. Of course, these saints have killed for their faith and some are killed for their faith.
@shebacs (178)
• Philippines
18 Mar 12
^^ I mean I hope you aren't twisting the story to what you think it is or was.
@buenavida (9987)
• Sweden
18 Mar 12
I donĀ“t know much about this man, but it is no surprise that he would have behaved like that. Have to look at some history info here on the net. Not all who claim to be Christians, behave like the leader Jesus Christ taught, to love each other and be good to even those who hate us. At least we know that we should never worship any human being.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
18 Mar 12
Wow, I didn't know that! I mean it is not celebrated in our country but I have heard about this day and watch it in foreign films, but never about the facts behind it. I never really cared probably because, as I have said, it isn't celebrated in our country, but now you got me knowing and wondering. It's like Santa, elves and the reindeer and the Easter bunny, the meaning is just all lost into the celebration. It's all about the lights, gifts, food, and booze. Commercialism has deteriorated the core of all this events, wrapped it in shiny paper, and presented it to the world in all new meaning.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
18 Mar 12
Commercialization really overtakes the meaning of anything. I don't know one single person who celebrates a St. Patrick. I know a bunch of people who celebrate St. Patrick's Day. Like Santa and presents at Christmas and not celebrating the birth of Jesus or whatever.
@tessah (6617)
• United States
18 Mar 12
same thing. a day to revere a man slated as the patron saint of ireland.. when in truth, he destroyed them. his life and actions are another mark on humanity itself. but no one cares cause its another reason to get drunk and make pigs of themselves
• India
2 Jun 12
he was never a saint.
@webearn99 (1742)
• India
19 Mar 12
Is that true?, because the worst I had heard about him was that he was a roman stooge. But then how accurate will history be of a man whose life is largely a matter of speculation, with even his day of birth not confirmed. Then there is this fervor connected to religious dogma which may have whitewashed his deeds. Church has been open minded in the recent past and if plausible evidence is forced down its throat it may react in the right way, if not in the righteous way, in time. It has after all accepted now that sun is the center of our solar system. That however, does not absolve the Spanish Inquisition or Hitler's "Final Solution" of the monstrosity of Human abuse, nor of all the other monsters who ruled from time to time all over the world.
@ajk111 (2495)
24 Mar 12
i knew there was something iffy about that sainty guy.
@mgzg11 (139)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
18 Mar 12
Hitler is not a saint, but surely he got his followers today, and for them, he's not far from it. Maybe some day in 1000 years or so, he will become one, who knows. Fact is that history is being written by winners, and that doesn't take in consideration the price of their victory. Another fact is that during the history of mankind, worst atrocities were done in the name of the religion. Or, those acts were justified by saying: "This might not be right, but God will forgive us, because he's on our side". Whole "New World" was made mostly in that way, and it still continues today. Whenever we hear politicians that are saying that some nation, religion or entire continent is not capable of democracy and self-governing, that's justification of exploitation, and often mass killings. As long as we are not at the receiving end of the process, we are not arguing against it, because it brings us energy, goods and makes possible to keep our standard of living.
@Runite (307)
• United States
18 Mar 12
Saints only affect some people. Most people don't give a damn about who becomes one or not.