What Is Wrong With Religion?

Thailand
March 20, 2012 12:42am CST
Why has religion become everyone's favorite punching bag? It seems that the only thing that atheists and believers can agree on is that religion is bad. If we look at the known history of are species there is one thing that stands out. There has never been a society on this planet that religion has not played a part in. Is now the time to take a chance on discarding religion?
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@else22 (4319)
• India
22 Mar 12
Sorry to disagree.I don't think religion is bad.There is nothing bad in religion.If one says that that religion causes riots and bloodshed,I would say it is the misinterpretation of religion,and not the religion in itself that causes massacres.Terrorists,for example,are the misguided lot. Religion can produce a Mahatma Gandhi and a Mother Teresa,and misinterpretation of religion can give birth to a Osama Bin Laden. There are doctors who misuse their knowledge.So are there some scientists who misuse science.But we can never say that science is bad.
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• United States
21 Mar 12
For many the answer is Yes! Free will Is now really been used! Once if you said anything against the church , you were killed or kicked out of society. Once the religion of your family was yours, Period. If not, you lost your family. Once the Church helped decide who ruled the land. These days many families are just spiritual, not religious. There are kids who get to choose which path they are going to follow. And sadly many have just left The Church because of the scandals.Some equate religion with child molestation, that is so sad. So is the time for us to try? Many are already going it without religion.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
21 Mar 12
Who are us ? Why do you feel the need to talk about every person ? What if some of US don`t want to leave religion ?
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• United States
22 Mar 12
Us meant those who don't have religion in their lives . I would never try to speak for All. sorry , my bad.Many have religion on their lives and Always will. I know I will.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
22 Mar 12
That`s why i asked because you wrote " So is the time for us to try? Many are already going it without religion. " If you really think about this you will see you can`t say what`s good or bad without religion.I know we hear we have to be good or follow your heart or whatever every day but when you think deeper everything will fail.If we burn all religious books and accept we come from apes then there is no way to tell what`s right or wrong.Like a russian said : "Man is descended from a monkey, consequently we shall love one another." What we are hearing every day on TV or reading it`s called indoctrination and it is done by a group of people who have very strong beliefs.And they want us to get rid of our beliefs so that we can accept theirs.This is what i think.
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@5mahi05 (666)
• India
20 Mar 12
Religion is a good thing if it is taken in the right sense. If you could remember, there was a time, when there were no religions that existed on this earth plane. Yes, the times when these things were not present. When they never existed. During those times, people were not civilized and they had no values that they would follow. That is when the religions came into existence. A group of people started following a particular discipline and they called themselves as something which turned out to be a religion later. The other group called themselves something else and they became another religion. Few of them were proud enough to spread their religion, while the others had better thoughts, that they went to make a revolution, starting a religion of their own. It is all just a man made thing to imbibe the good things to the people who belong to their communinity of people. There is nothing wrong in it as far as it teaches the right thing to the followers. Of it is isn't, then as you said , all of us should take our stand against the wrong.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
I can not find myself in complete agreement with you. I don't know of any time in our existence as a species that there was no religion. What we know of our history shows that religion has always been with us.
@5mahi05 (666)
• India
20 Mar 12
Well, you are thinking of only what we know of our history. So, there are things that history hasn't told us, I am referring it that way. There has to be a beginning to everything. So, in that case, when something exists now, then there should be a beginning to it too. There is beginning only when it hasn't existed.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
Interesting. I have to agree that there must have been a point that religion started but that raises an interesting question. What makes us human and is religion a part of that?
• United States
21 Mar 12
The exterior of religions is rather an illusion. People behind them are not what they appear to be. There are lots of manipulations taking place. I cannot talk for every religion, but I do know that Abrahamic religions currently are being used to bring another religion to the world. Yes, before, I used to think that probably, the religions were bad. But now I know that the story is completely different.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
21 Mar 12
Can you tell us more about this another religion ?
• United States
22 Mar 12
Here is a letter from Albert Pike which tells all about the new religion: http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm Note that now many of the priests in Christianity and Islam are run by the elite group. They are here to use the divide and rule policy to create instability and hatred. They just want to prove that Abrahamic religions are all about blood shedding. In the Muslim world, there is a group known as Wahabi. If you read their history you will know that they were created by UK for political benefits. Unfortunately, this group now has tremendous power which gives them the ability to influence Islam to give it a bad name. They are backed up by Muslim brotherhood whose founder was a Freemason. This second group controls Middle Eastern banks and deep down inside they are Luciferians and not real Muslims. Same goes in the Judaism. There was one time in Europe when the Jewish population was very less. Judaism was not so mainstream. But then came a time when Christians decided to get rid of all those who are into idol worshiping. Pagans were highly worried about it and thus their only option was to show that they actually converted to Judaism. However, they actually did not practice Judaism at all. In their homes, they were still pagans. The combination of these fake Jewish, Muslims and Christians are now responsible for whatever we are seeing in this world right now.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
22 Mar 12
Conspiracy, that`s cool. I think being a martyr may be my only chance to go to heaven so i don`t know if this conspiracy is such a bad idea.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
20 Mar 12
So if we discard religion what model do we follow ? We must follow a doctrine. I think we can try to live according with the evolutionary model for a couple of years.We are already too many so i think we should give everyone a weapon and burn our Penal codes and religious books and see what will happen in the next 2-3 years.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
I think you are undervaluing religion. Its primal function is far more important than just governing behavior.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
20 Mar 12
I don`t understand where you`re heading.You say we should give non religion a chance only on some aspects of our life ?
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
No, I think religion plays an important role in our lives. It has been around as long as there have been human societies and has played an important part in our survival as a species.
@shooie (4985)
• United States
20 Mar 12
cross - Religion isn't the problem it's people
If we all discarded religion we would all be atheist and I could never be that because I believe there is a GOD!!! It isn't religion that is the problem it is doctrine. Religion itself isn't bad it is certian people in each group.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
Religion doesn't equate with a belief in the gods. You do not have to be religious to believe in a god. Is religion itself good or bad?
@Runite (307)
• United States
21 Mar 12
It really depends on the religion you are focusing on, I'll take it as the Abrahamic religions. Islam is holding the world back with extremists, while Christianity is trying get into schools and politics. As for Judaism, it's not popular here in the place I'm in America and I don't know anyone who is of that religion, all I know is that they are just the old testament version of Christians. Like all religions these are usually taught to children at a young age so even though we take science classes at my school, people of these Abrahamic religions always laugh at evolution because it dethrones human worth. I have nothing against most religions but I really don't like the extremist ones and the Abrahamic ones in general because they mock other religions and try to convert them to theirs. Religion by emotional support is good. Abrahamic religion are bad. Extremist religions are bad. I don't know much about other religions other than the Abrahamic religions so don't bother to tell me all religions aren't the same, doesn't take a genius to figure out a branch is not the entire tree.
@samar54 (2455)
• Egypt
21 Mar 12
"Islam is holding the world back with extremists" "Abrahamic religion are bad" I'm Muslim and proud , every day I thank my God because He is blessed on me with the grace of Islam , Do not promote rumors biased about my religion, you do not know Islam, study Islam or read it neutrally and then judge it, and the Abrahamic religions is not bad, they are religions that descended from the God of human beings and their Creator, and thus they are not as you say, that the followers of all religions have changed in the teachings of their religions , Defect in them and not in the religions
@webearn99 (1743)
• India
20 Mar 12
Nothing is wrong with religion, it is perhaps how people interpret it that is wrong. If one were to abandon religion and follow conscience only, then the conscience becomes the new religion. One philosopher from India had to say this about Atheists: "They are the greatest followers of God, because they take the name of God so many times in denial of existence of God that even the most religious follower cannot match the devotion." It depends on the individual on what is chosen to follow. As long as it is consistently good for the society it is religion.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
Is religion itself important? What does it add or take away from a society?
@webearn99 (1743)
• India
20 Mar 12
It holds the society together. It shows the path to an individual who wants to do good and be useful. It tells you what is good and bad. It gives you discipline. All it needs is adaptation to the changed circumstances from the time it originated, and it is good as new.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
You have hit on its main function. It is the glue that holds a society together through a community of shared beliefs.
@urbandekay (18308)
20 Mar 12
No all the best urban
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
Can you please tell me why, at least in my favor? lol No is not enough
@urbandekay (18308)
20 Mar 12
Well, as Chiang... observes there never has been a society without religion and we might add, nor one without language. Should we suggest abandoning language? No. Religion is something we do, and all value derives from religion. No religion no culture, no culture no society all the best urban
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
Oh God I did not know that that was a very simple question indeed I am sorry I ran out of common sense lol
@shebacs (178)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
People always want to blame on things. And most of the time, its religion. Some don't like these 'restrictions' that come with most religions and they lash out at the religion. What they don't realize is they have the free will to get out of that religion and find a new one they are comfortable with. Whose stopping them from doing that? No one.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
Most people who leave the religion they have grown up find it a gut wrenching experience.
@shebacs (178)
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
Gut-wrenching experience? What - the leaving of the religion? Or being in that religion?
• Thailand
22 Mar 12
Sorry for my lack of clarity. I ment leaving the religion.
@crossbones27 (26007)
• Redlands, California
20 Mar 12
I have no problem with religion as long as people do not abuse it. I do not care if people believe in a big purple dragon. As long as they do not try to tell me what I should believe in and I a bad person because I do not believe what they believe. I know my beliefs are not a threat, or his hurting anyone's life or their children's life. I hope religious people can respect my families life and celebrate their own religion with their own family without trying to force their views on us. If I want to know something about your religion I will ask, or come here on Mylot and read your opinions.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
Do you think religion plays a positive or negative role?
• Redlands, California
20 Mar 12
For the most part I would have to say negative. The only reason I say that is because many of our politicians believe God told them to run for office. I am sorry but I have a problem with people like Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann and even George W Bush who bring religion into politics. Rick Perry had a, I think what was a 3 day event in Texas to pray for rain. Instead of fixing Texas and making it better he was wasting tax dollars on something he has no control over. Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin both believe God told them to run for office and make it a point that when they are going to pray about coming up with solutions to huge problems. You just can't trust there decision making skills to fix a country with huge problems on logic like that. Many voters vote against their own interest because someone has the same faith as them. They do not look at the reality of the situation but instead place their faith into fixing everything. They distort facts just because it contradicts their religion. I think it is fine if people want to believe in God but, how bout "we say we don't know." How do you know God is not just testing you and wants you to come up with the decisions and does not want you to be asking for help all the time. It is a very dangerous way to live and I am sure many civilizations have paid a price, and are still paying the price because they think it is Gods will to fix their life for them or will show them the path to fix their lives. Then you just have some people who don't even care about their life because if they die in their mind they are going to a better place. So they do not care about the planet the animals on it and could care less what we do to it because it is not heaven and God gave us this planet to do whatever we want with it. Really, you something God made wants you to mistreat and disrespect it. The very planet, plants, and animals that have kept you and your family alive this whole time. So yes I see religion as more negative on society than positive, I guess I just contradicted myself on the other post but now that I think about it. If people can separate religion from the reality of life then it can go back to being positive, quit trying to think they know everything because they think they know what God wants. The problem is we don't know and until we do know, we need to treat everyone, and everything with a little more respect because it may not be hear tomorrow.
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
How could I discard my religion if I know It wasn't a man made?
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
"What is wrong with religion" --It's time for you brother to embrace Christianity as we are committed to do and think only for the right thing. We appear to be living more in tune with the reality of human nature and the world.
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
To me, the absence of religion, permanence and stability in anything means the outright denial of the value of human existence and make life frivolous superficial and meaningless. Materialists are always concerned with the transitory and the temporary while a genuine spiritual outlook always emphasizes the absolute and eternal.
@taheraa (1545)
• Giza, Egypt
20 Mar 12
Now is the time to adhere to monotheistic religions and make them sound and a wonderful platform for our lives. Without religion is not upright human life, it is the basis of all other sciences and its human successes achieved.
• Thailand
20 Mar 12
I think that you fail to understand religions primary function and how it has helped the human species survive. There have been humans and religion far longer than there have been monotheistic religions and I don't think monotheism is really all that important. Religion has been and still is an important part of what makes us human but it is not a specific religion. It is the whole collection of religions.
@taheraa (1545)
• Giza, Egypt
20 Mar 12
What you understood and Derived by from my words, let me show you: If a person thinks of as objects of nature around him, who created from non. The Sun and the Moon appear and disappear at fixed certain times, from which to do so, for there must be a great creator. And Like any other science, such as medical science that reveals the secrets of diseases, and physical science that reveals the secrets of nature around us. Why do not we turn to the religious sciences that are the basis of all these sciences. Religious Science draws people to the right path and the Platform for their lives, and the rules of their dealings with God, with others and even with themselves. Must take the platform of our religion, does not make pure coincidence and our discoveries in life determine the approach that we're on. My best regards
• India
2 Jun 12
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@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
21 Mar 12
I am not sure that religion is the favorite punching bag, but it's certainly up there. As to why it's a point of contest, that's easy, because it's a large organization within a culture, and it's easy to differentiate by it, and unfortunately a lot of people look for the differences in others, instead of similarities. The easiest and most obvious difference between people is male and female, then you can go tall or short, use age, ethnicity, education, political views; any factor that makes one human different from the other. Some people just have to be different than the other, it's competitive nature. I'm relatively certain that you have heard the saying "not better, just different", well to some that is not good enough. If they can't be better, then they will point out the negatives of another group or person, even if they are not directly related to what the competition is about. Think of 3 children in a race, it will be obvious at the finish line that child A is faster than child B or C. Child B may accept that fact and work to be faster, but child C may be quick to point out that while his mother is an accountant, child A's mom cleans bathrooms. Totally unrelated to the race, but a point that child C can win on in his mind. And that is the problem with religion, a point that many other responses have raised; it's not the religion itself, it's some of the thinking behind the religion. Religion is based on faith, and faith by it's nature is a belief that cannot be proven by tangible facts. I can't prove that my religious beliefs are correct, but they are mine and that's good enough for me. Some folks will try to prove that which cannot be proven, and as you have seen in history, wars can get started that way. Religion is one of many things that can be a "cause"; some folks just take up their cause and keep it among like believers, others pick up the "flag" of their cause and run with it, and get as many people as they can to rally behind them. Neither of those are really bad, it's the folks in the third group, the ones that pick up swords, and use them, that are cause for concern. As far as discarding religion, it will never happen, remember some folks love differences. Religions have come and gone, but the one constant is that they remain.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
No! I don't want to go back to barbarism society of no rule law of civil society of men. I thank God and to those our ancestors who sheds a million blood and soul just to have now our liberties, freedom, dignity and morality as a civilized tribes of human beings. And, I want to pass these to all of my grandchildren. ANY RELIGIONS IS GOOD FOR ALL OF US. We should always be grateful and thankful for all the blessing we having now. Rather than keeps on looking or searching for past bad histories or bad past events to have reasons to make do nothings at all. What is important NOW. We should forgive and love one another. Humility and peace within our hearts and mind.
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
we cannot discard religion because it plays a great role in human's life. Religion influences a lot of our decision especially if we are faithful to it. It plays in all aspects of human life. Like if we make a decision, we have to consider our customs and beliefs and our practices. It covers the totality of human existence. And reason for this is that human being is a religious being. Meaning, he is the only creature that can recognize his creator. I am not against religion, in fact I respect every belief/religion. But sometimes I don't like the people who under that particular religion, who are in the ministry of a particular religion.
@CODYMAC (1357)
• San Diego, California
20 Mar 12
Hello, Chiang_Mai_boy. I agree with you. And the reason is because we have very limited understanding about who we are as a race. Where we came from. Where we are going. Religion has been the building block, and the stumbling block for ALL mankind. I have obvious views as a believer, but that does no make me blind to the path that lead me/us to where we are. Plus, it depends on what "form" of religion you are talking about. What do we have in the world, about 5000 different religions? It is good to live and let live. It is also good to do good to others. If a religion does that, then they are almost home as far as I am concerned. Have a great day...
@jazel_juan (15756)
• Philippines
20 Mar 12
nothing is wrong with religion...but the people who follows certain religion. religion became their reasons..their alibis...
@sukumar794 (5047)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
20 Mar 12
Apart from binding certain sects of people in a common platform, religion has little role in our everyday lives. In fact extreme religious thinking corrupts our minds instilling into us the poison of hatred and enmity.