Family cloth
By GreenMoo
@GreenMoo (11833)
March 21, 2012 7:17am CST
I´ve read a few blog posts recently written by people who use what they call ´family cloth´ instead of throw away toilet paper. The idea is to use squares of fabric instead, which are washed and reused.
Here´s one such blog post, where the writer explains her reasons for using it - http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/06/reusable-toilet-paper-family-cloth.html
Would you consider using washable, reusable wipes instead of toilet paper? Why?
I´m currently doing all our laundry by hand, so it´s not something I´m currently willing to add to my workload. It´s not so different to washing nappies though, which I used to do. Perhaps for ´number ones´ but not ´number twos´ would be an acceptable compromise. It would certainly save a lot of toilet paper if you have a house comprising of lots of women.
What do you think?
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@maezee (41985)
• United States
21 Mar 12
Definitely not. Even though you wash it, that seems incredibly unsanitary. Even though it's probably the 'green' thing to do, nope. Because you would have to TOUCH these cloths to wash them. And do you wash them every single time after you use them or let them build up until there is enough for one load of laundry, in which case if you did...It would start stinking like a SEWER in your home. I would rather just cut down on toilet paper, like using ONE sheet every time I went to the bathroom.... That's just me though...
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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21 Mar 12
I´m not saying the way you feel is right or wrong Maezee, and I think that most people´s gut reaction is to say the same thing, but how does it differ from washable nappies/diapers? Or even disposable ones? You have to touch those too!
I think, like with washable nappies, you would put them in a lidded bucket after use (filled with water maybe to soak?) then just chuck the lot in your machine as required. I don´t see the need to handle them.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
21 Mar 12
No way!
If you think about it, how are you really saving money? Toilet paper is not very expensive.. you can get decent TP for like 50 cents a roll or less, I pay $5 for a 12 pack and I get fairly decent stuff, not top of the line but not the cheapest either.
But if you get this reusable stuff, first of all you have to pay the initial cost of the fabric. Then you have to pay for the water and electricity to wash it, not to mention the washing liquid.. and cheap washing liquid around here is like $3 a bottle but doesn't really get the smells out. I prefer the stuff that's around $10 a bottle. Then you need to pay for the electricity to dry it unless you're willing to line dry them. And you can only use each cloth once.
I think in the long run the reusables probably cost more than buying TP, and it's definitely more of a hassle.
I can understand reusable diapers because they are expensive, so over all the reusables are cheaper and help the environment, but most TP is biodegradable anyway, isn't it?
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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22 Mar 12
I think that most people who did this would use recycled material, old Tshirts and the like ripped into squares. And I don´t think they would fill up much of a machine load. Anyone who would enthusiastic enough about the environment to use cloths like this would almost certainly be line drying I would think.
But I have lots of old cloth around, hand wash and line dry, so I guess I would save money. Yet I´m not in any hurry to start!
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
22 Mar 12
There are better uses for old materials. I tend to pass on our old clothing, even if it's a little stained, as long as it's still usable someone else may want it for play clothing or art smocks or something like that. So I tend to pass clothes on to Goodwill.
If it's all ripped and destroyed beyond repair, it still has other uses. My mom used to use old t-shirts as dust rags. Some people use them in crafts.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
21 Mar 12
I'm a cheapskate but I'm not that cheap! I don't think I would ever consider using cloth unless there was no TP available. I've used leaves before when camping but I didn't have to wash them!
I have used cloth for my liquid waste when I have not had a cent to spare, leaving the TP for the solids, but I would not consider using cloth for everything unless circumstances were such that there was no other way.
I have used cloth for my liquid waste when I have not had a cent to spare, leaving the TP for the solids, but I would not consider using cloth for everything unless circumstances were such that there was no other way.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Mar 12
oh ycuck for one thing us adults put out a lot more waste than babies tool I just cannot see myself handling that unsanitary
cloth full of e coli germs just waiting to be transferred from our hands during the cloth squares time to our faces and into our
mouths to make us deadly ill from ecoli poisoning .I am not that
cheap either or that stupid to handle germy crap on purpose.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
21 Mar 12
You are right about the germs, Hatley, all kinds of stuff can be in there whereas urine is sterile when it exists the body. I'm not one to shy away from germs and it's probably why I haven't been ill for years and years but I have no intention of deliberately exposing myself to them through human waste! 


@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
22 Mar 12
grr.
This is my second attemtpt at posting this as mylot is being glitchy again, which makes for an irritated SCG this early in the morning before work. I'll break it down into just little points that I had wanted to make.
1. Good Idea IF it's economical.
2. Better Idea if used just for number one.
3. Water / Vinegar (hot) mix to soak in and wash later.
Yeah I think that those were my points broken down.
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@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
22 Mar 12
Well, as interesting as that blog post was, I have to say I will not be using any kind of family cloth anytime soon. I will stick with my toilet paper. There is an alternative to toilet paper though, some people use old newspapers when they run out of toilet paper. At least it's paper. I have never done that, but I would rather do that is I was in a bind without toilet paper. I like things that can be disposed of and not held onto.
@lifes97 (884)
• United Arab Emirates
22 Mar 12
hi, i think im going to agree with it, yes i know some people do that its briliant to be able to do it and really great idea but i can not do it, im lazy to do it and i like the nice decorated things to be used not the old cloths and these things but you can say its useful idea and good also to some limitations, why not if you run out of money to do it, its after all your cloths and they are sure clean and no disgusting things in that, so i can not say im against it or with it, its up to you
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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22 Mar 12
I would consider it for just pee, but to be honest I have enough to do without washing wipes as well as everything else. I think for most families there are other things they could focus on to minimise cost and environmental impact before this, but I have a lot of respect for those families who do.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
21 Mar 12
Why not? Urine is sterile, so it's cleaner than a lot of other things we wash. Not "number two" as you mentioned, from adults, because I think that could be dangerous. I've washed diapers by hand and survived, so I'm sure I'd survive washing wipes by hand that had urine on them.
I think we live so far from nature that we are afraid of ourselves. The down to earth fact of it is that our bodies are not horribly nasty things. Some would be shocked at what they do with human urine.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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21 Mar 12
I think that if wipes from number twos were kept separate and not used for anything else, then the heat of a modern day washing machine would be sufficient. I imagine that a family wishing to go ahead with something like this would have different colours or something for different family members.
But as I said, I wash by hand so it´s not something I´m going to plan on experimenting with!
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@BarBaraPrz (51811)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
21 Mar 12
I suppose it beats using newspaper or old catalogs, but it's not for me. In fact, I'd like disposable undies... ones that are meant to be tossed after a wearing or two, not the "regular" ones that just don't last very long at all. Either the elastic shreds or stretches, or the material is so thin one often ends up putting their thumbs through it when pulling them up.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
22 Mar 12
I use recycled toilet paper. I figure toilet paper is biodegradable. Not considering reuseable whipes. We dry out clothes on the line a lot. I read that clothes not dried in a dryer don't reach a temp that will kill disease, ditto for handwashed because not hot enough.
Maybe that is just stuff written by washer and drier companies, who knows.
I have used newspaper when we were out of toilet paper (the print here is soyben based) and I've used leaves when we were in the woods. When we were on a cruise, we were told to only use biodegradable marine paper. One of the stops, we saw a septic tank truck unloading stuff from the ship, so that was interesting because I thougth they might be dumping it all in the ocean.
Washing diapers for a baby or maybe two is hard enough, but for whipes for an entire family. Esp. when people get diarrhea.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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22 Mar 12
Under ordinary circumstances, I can´t imagine why one would need to kill germs on an ordinary load of washing. Although the information about washers and dryers may be true, it sounds like a good example of information being used to scare people unnecessarily.
I thought that wipes would be easier to launder than nappies as they would be so much smaller and easy to dry. Good luck to the people who do it. Personally it sounds like an awful lot of work for a minimal gain. I think if people are wanting to save money or be environmentally aware there are almost certainly other things they could focus on first.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
22 Mar 12
This would not be something that I would be willing to do with number 2 and it would also not be something that I would expect guests to my house to do. However, it is something that I would be willing to consider for the four of us that live in the house.
The reason that I would consider it is because of the fact that it would save a lot of money in toilet paper in the long run. In addition to that, it would also be something that would help the environment.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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22 Mar 12
I feel much like you. For just pee it would be acceptable for the family, but for anything else I think I´d prefer to use toilet paper.
I had a friend who used wipes for everything for her whole family, but she supplied ordinary toilet paper for guests.
I think it would save a lot of money if you have a household with more women than men.
Although it would be good for the environment, I think that for most families there are probably other things they could focus on first which would have more of an impact.
I have a lot of respect for those families who do this and are willing to talk about it.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
22 Mar 12
This would not be something that I would be willing to do with number 2 and it would also not be something that I would expect guests to my house to do. However, it is something that I would be willing to consider for the four of us that live in the house.
The reason that I would consider it is because of the fact that it would save a lot of money in toilet paper in the long run. In addition to that, it would also be something that would help the environment.
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@flapiz (23530)
• United Kingdom
22 Mar 12
well in my personal opinion I think it is unhygienic to use and reuse clothing specially if you used it to wipe poo. I can't imagine washing that!
Well yeah it will save toilet paper, but then washing it wouldn't save water and detergent. Just my thought?
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@shirley2all (141)
• China
21 Mar 12
We have used the family cloth for babies but only for babies.Before When I was still young, my mum also used the used fabric on me.But now since a lot women think it will be more convenient to use the tissue paper and diaper then throw away.Actually it is good for babies because it is much more comfortable than tissue paper and diaper. In future, I also will use family cloth for my baby but so far it will be impossible to use in whole family unless it is used for washing hands or something else.
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@TheIzers (680)
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22 Mar 12
no thank you, someone suggested us to use wash clothes for our baby even though we use washing machine we still don't want to do it. The idea might be good it's safe toilet paper and money but considering the germ from grown up like us??? I don't think so, if anything water is better choice than wash clothes.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
16 May 12
Hello GreenMoo0. Interesting discussion. Some time ago some one ask what we thought was the greatest invention was for mankind. At the time I thought it was the wheel now I have decided it is toilet paper. The wealthy Chinese had the paper available to them in the fourteenth century. Every one else used leaves, grass, hay, stone, sand, moss, water, snow, maize, ferns, may apple plant husks, fruit skins, or seashells. Personally I can't see using hay, stones or corn cobs as they would be really rough. I do know that the early American natives used cat tail fuzz and milk weed seeds for babies buntings. I would rather use those over catalogs or corn cobs. I'm sure that in the nineteenth century many pioneer families had family clothes. When they did laundry they boiled it in a wash kettle over a fire in the yard. Those clothes would be sanitized by the boiling. They would be as sanitary as an operating room. I had also washed my first son' nappies or as we in the U.S. call them diapers by hand. I had to heat the water on the stov4 first.
My poor step mother did a lot of camping and one time she accidentally use poison ivy to wipe with. She suffered for some time.
Toilet paper is cheap enough that I would not use any kind of clothes.
Some one mentioned the monthly. My grandmother talked about using rags for that and washed them out daily. She would make sure they were hung so that any one passing by or visiting would not see them.
We never talked about them using family clothes though as long as she was alive and living in the country they had an outdoor loo. But it always had toilet paper in it.

@deebomb (15304)
• United States
16 May 12
This was almost 100 years ago and people especially women were a lot more modest back then. women who showed t heir ankle were thought to be fast. When my grandparents were married and on their honeymoon my grandfather would not let my grandmother see him in his long johns. He almost set the hotel a fire trying to put out the lamp by swinging a rug over it.
@GreenMoo (11833)
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16 May 12
Seashells? Ouch!
I use washable pads myself and wash them by hand, a slightly more modern version of your grandmother's rags I guess. I hang them on the line along with everyone else. Who cares who sees the? They're clean by then and I'm sure having periods isn't news to most people.
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@danishcanadian (28954)
• Canada
28 Mar 12
NO WAY IN HELL!!!!
-Toilet paper is not that expensive.
-It disolves in the sewers so does not clog up the environment.
-It starts out clean and fresh with each new piece.
-I don't have to wash it.
-I live in an apartment so I do not have my own washing machine.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
I don't think I would be comfortable with it. Anyhow, we don't actually use toilet papers instead we use the good old soap and water. I think soap and water is still best and beats any other way to wash the bottoms with.
At first, I thought you were referring to the family cloth which women in the olden days would use to wipe after urinating, they'd actually wash those instantly thus isn't a big deal because it wouldn't be staying too long before they're washing. Further, it's just excess pee thus is quite okay compared to poo.
I think it's unsanitary to use that for the poop because you don't take out everything just by washing. There's bacteria that couldn't be taken off just by mere washing. Further, I don't think we should compare the poo of adults to those of kids. Remember that kids only drink milk and light food, compare that to someone who's eating junk food, fats, and other stuff. I just wouldn't want to be the one to use it after someone else have (even if he/she is family).
Have a great MyLot experience ahead!
@GreenMoo (11833)
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21 Mar 12
I´d never heard the term family cloth before, but I think I am talking about the cloth which women would use to wipe with. There´s people who also use it for poo though, and they´re using the same term.
The first option I would be happy with, the second less so. But I don´t necessarily agree that using it for poo is unsanitary if it´s washed properly in between. After all, you´re not going to be use it for anything else. The hot washes on a washing machine are pretty hot too. They cope with pooey nappies after all, and people accept that those are not unsanitary. Many children are still in nappies long after they are eating ´normal´ food.
One option for the issue of using it after someone else would be for every member of the family to have cloths of a different colour. I imagine it would be quite easy to cut up old fabric in different shades for everyone. Old sheets for instance, or Tshirts.
It´s all theoretical though. It´s not something I have planned!
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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21 Mar 12
The idea makes me shudder! I think that we can take recycling only so far. Why not manufacture dock leaves into toilet tissue and place that in the Johanna (super hot composter). We've got two and they are fantastic taking virtually all our recyclables including meat and fish products. I remember a friend once writing in a loo the words just above the toilet roll holder "Now use other side"! Yuk.

@GreenMoo (11833)
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21 Mar 12
Reminds me of a stupid youtube clip called *crap weekend farmers say* or something similar where the guy sticks his head out of an outhouse and asks who has pinched his wiping sock 
No reason why you can´t stick ordinary toilet paper into a composter providing the temperature is high enough for long enough in order to kill off pathogens. Better than pumping it into the sea or landfilling it. There´s a fascinating book called the Humanure Handbook all about composting your poo, should you have the urge to read all about it. Fascinating stuff, though not something I´m terribly keen to get involved in. My dogs are far too keen on digging in the compost as it is!

No reason why you can´t stick ordinary toilet paper into a composter providing the temperature is high enough for long enough in order to kill off pathogens. Better than pumping it into the sea or landfilling it. There´s a fascinating book called the Humanure Handbook all about composting your poo, should you have the urge to read all about it. Fascinating stuff, though not something I´m terribly keen to get involved in. My dogs are far too keen on digging in the compost as it is!
@honest_efforts100 (1607)
• India
4 Jul 12
For me, I would consider using washable, reusable nappies. It can be washed anyway; dirt and bacteria will be washed out. Recyclables are helpful for moms at home for it saves money. Even if I’ll be using washable and reusable nappies, I will still use toilet paper also for necessary things only that needs to be disposed.



















