Did Obama's Former Pastor Make Some Inconvenient Remarks?

"(like, ummm... Obama hasn't talked to him in nearly four years?)" - that's a fact not an excuse and I sure haven't made any excuses for him. I think he is dirty and corrupt just like every other politician. But unlike you that seems to think that it's only Obama I recognize the corruption on both sides of the fence. As for wright saying "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me," Obama has more Jews in his Cabinet than Bush did, increase funding to Israel and he has gotten more donations from AIPAC. I think his actions show that he is more Jewish than Muslim. But believe whatever you want to.

I think you missed the point. Obama has more Jews in his cabinet? Well, those are the Jews then that Wright says won't let him talk to Obama. I think that being associated with Wright, knowing what Wright believes and stands for, is enough to make me seriously worry about Obama's loyalties. Maybe he hasn't seen him in four years (since he started his run for president) but he sat in his church for 20 years, so he knew exactly what kind of guy Wright is. And if you didn't like what someone said week after week, you'd find a different church. So there is no way to claim Obama didn't like what Wright had to say. And Wright is an anti-Semite. My point is that Obama hasn't talked to him in four years because it is not politically expedient for Obama to talk to him. It would only expose Obama to criticism for associating with such a hate-filled, racist, anti-American bigot. However, since Wright was good enough for Obama for the 20 years before he ran for president and he only gave him up for the sake of being president, I have to assume that Obama agreed with everything he said for the first 20 years of their association.

"Bottom line is if someone dislikes him they aren't going to care what religion he is they are going to hate him regardless.... (Unless they didn't like him because they thought he wasn't a Muslim and now they think he is one....) ... and if they like him they will make excuses for him." (like, ummm... Obama hasn't talked to him in nearly four years?) Actually, Obama hasn't been talking to him, or at least known to talk to him. Do you know why? Well, Jeremiah Wright told The Daily Press of VA, that there's a good reason that Obama isn't talking to him.... "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me," Wright said. "I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5079069-503544.html On the other hand, Wright knows he's toxic to Obama's image, so he's okay with him pretending not to be too close. "They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is," he said. "...I said from the beginning: He's a politician; I'm a pastor. He's got to do what politicians do." So Obama is doing what politicians do. He's avoiding someone he's known for 20 years for political reasons, not because he objects to them but because the voters might.

Actually, although many will view this "sermon" from a purely religious perspective, the comments Wright made were much more divisive than just along religious lines. In addition to the comment I quoted, he made a point of saying that there are those who may "look like you" but are worshiping some other God - an example he cited was Clarence Thomas. The only reason for singling out Thomas that I can think of is that he is a conservative. So, even if he is black, he is telling his congregation, Thomas is the enemy. The real danger of people like Wright and Obama lies not in their religion. I personally doubt that either of them could be very well-acquainted with God and it's not about that for either of them. It's about constructing a religion that is based on class warfare and the restructuring of society as they think it ought to be. That is what people really should take away from these remarks, not any conviction that Obama is either Christian or Muslim or any particular faith, but that he is an ideologue who will wrap his radicalism in the banner of whatever faith or political party that will advance his policies and bring his vision for America to fruition. And by vision, I mean nightmare.

http://www.acton.org/pub/commentary/2008/04/02/marxist-roots-black-liberation-theology That's a pretty good explanation for Black Liberation Theology. Taken from the website: Third, victimology keeps racism alive because many whites are constantly painted as racist with no evidence provided. Racism charges create a context for backlash and resentment fueling new attitudes among whites not previously held or articulated, and creates "separatism" -- a suspension of moral judgment in the name of racial solidarity. Does Jeremiah Wright foster separatism or racial unity and reconciliation?

http://gulagbound.com/27603/what-the-mailman-knows-about-ayers-and-obama/ And this is what Obama has praised in Egypt, what Hillary has given billions of tax dollars for: http://gulagbound.com/24082/just-in-case-we-forget-just-how-much-radical-islam-loves-the-west/ the Muslim Brotherhood has a very violent history: http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/mbhood_en.html#part1 btw, wahhabbi Islam is the sect most involved in jihad. It was the sect Obama's adoptive father was an adherant to. I ask you, if you were Muslim and you understood that being Muslim meant you could never convert OUT OF Islam or they would kill you, would you leave? It is my opinion Obama never left. It is documented he was listed as Muslim in Indonesia. It can never be proven conclusively. But read what IS there and think on it. The American Constitution is fundementally flawed. That IS DOCUMENTED as coming out of Obama's mouth. He is not FOR AMERICA. So, what IS HE FOR?

I'm interested to know, if you don't mind, why it would matter if President Obama shared Wright's assessment that the two gods are the same? It seems to me that this should be a Christian belief, that the Christian god is the god of Muslims too. No?

matersfish, if you had a jewlery store that sold diamonds of the highest ranking, would you be happy that a guy sat up shop in front of your shop selling paste jewlery in front of your store; and had a sign that suggested his was as genuine as yours?

I don't believe in a god and wouldn't liken it to a shop. So I can't rightly answer that in its presented context. I would say, however, that it doesn't take much for the customers to find out what's real and what's not. So I could probably use the fake shop to my advantage to boost my sales. That's from a business standpoint, of course. A more apt analogy may be a sports memorabilia shop. If I was trying to sell Babe Ruth autographs and then someone else came in trying to sell Babe Ruth autographs, yeah, I might be a little upset. But, again, I can't answer this the way that you meant for it to be answered, because an autograph can be authenticated through a variety of means. Any way it flies, though, no matter the authenticity of my autographs, I would still be telling people that mine were the genuine and that the other guy's were fakes. So if the other guy was saying "they're both real; both the same," then he's actually helping me. I'm the one hurting him.

Many do not realize that Mohammed just picked Allah from a line-up to be the one and only god of Islam. Mohammed realized that a monotheistic system would be more advantageous. The Egyptian pharoah Ahkenaten tried the same thing but it didn't last long. From a religious standpoint, it is impossible to see why anyone would convert to Islam to Christianity if they thought their Gods were one and the same. It only makes sense if you thought one God was the real God and the other was not. I read once that Mohammed's wife told him the "angel" he saw was really the devil and he shouldn't pay attention to it. Too bad he didn't listen.

Los Angeles Times reporter Paul Watson, who dug into Obama's allegation of error, said "...his former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade school teacher as childhood friends, says Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. The registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion classes. The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." (Something else Obama claims he never did) He lied. He is still lying. He said he's always been a Christian, yet he is registered as a Muslim in Indonesian schools. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41650 Obama chose the leader of a[i] Muslim Brotherhood-linked group that had been named an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case to give a prayer during his inauguration ceremonies. He sent his senior adviser, Valerie Jarrett, to be the keynote speaker at the this same group's national convention in 2009. Obama appointed Arif Alikhan, the deputy mayor of Los Angeles, as assistant secretary for policy development at the Department of Homeland Security. Just two weeks before he received this appointment, Alikhan (who once called the jihad terror group Hezbollah a “liberation movement”) participated in a fund-raiser for the Muslim Public Affairs Council [/i] Now, let's look at his 'Christian' church that he attended for 20 years. http://presentdiscontent.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/obamas-ties-to-the-nation-of-islam-and-libya/ [i]Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama both attended Farrakhan’s Million Man March on Washington. Rev. Willie Barrow who is a member of Obama’s official campaign Faith Outreach Team, is a close friend of Farrakhan’s, an ardent NOI supporter and an Obama superdelegate. Farrakhan stated in a 2002 interview he met with Barrow to devise his Nation of Islam platforms. Marxist activist Cornel West, an adviser to Farrakhan, also had been an adviser to Obama’s 2008 campaign and is a close Obama associate and personal friend. During the period of Obama’s attendance at Wright’s Trinity United Church, which practices controversial Black Liberation Theology ideology, the Chicago church was openly allied with Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. Wright gave Farrakhan his 2007 Empowerment Award. Farrakhan delivered multiple guest lectures at the church.[/i] Raila Amolo Odinga. He is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF] in Kenya. The political party he heads is called the Orange Democratic Movement. When he lost the election in Kenya, AFTER Sen. Obama campaigned for him, he went on a bloody rampage with memebers of his tribe killing Christians and burning down a church full of women, infants and old people who had taken refuge there. http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm I could go on and on, there are so so many instances of Obama's prefering radical Muslims over Americans. I will list this one last, but only because it upsets me the most; (I might add, the website YOUNG TURKS is very liberal) http://current.com/community/91448455_why-wont-obama-call-fort-hood-killer-a-terrorist.htm http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/jihad.htm Mohammed spread Islam by the sword, he captured Jewish, Christian women and children and sold them into slavery,the men who would not convert were killed.