...the jessica backlash

Philippines
April 15, 2012 1:00am CST
I think everybody now heard that Jessica Sanchez, a contestant of the American idol reality show was saved by its judges, Steven Tyler, Jennifer Lopez and Randy Jackson. The contestant was saved by using the 'one save pas', a privilege given to the judges to save a contestant that they think is worthy of such act. Jessica was saved form elimination =, which was caused by low votes for her. Many people witnessed that the judges saved her almost immediately and implied that they (the audience should vote for the best and not to the popular, the cute or other personal bias (I think it was the good term to use). They proclaim Jessica as one of the best singers and obviously, the three were unanimous in their decision. However, this incident caused a controversy of the Ai judges being bias. The show has two kinds of judges – the people who sit in front of the stage and the public who vote for them. Do you think that the public (as a collective) have more power over the three judges? Would it be justifiable if the public orchestrate a backlash against the judges or to Jessica?
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@se7enthbird (8313)
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
at this point the judges can only say their comments and their own opinions on what the contestant is on that day. it is true that Jessica is one of the best and it is true that her being at the bottom is ridiculous. it is also true that they need to tell AI fans to vote smart. but then again that is the reason why AI lost Simon because judges has no power to pick who the winner will be. this past season the winners are just the cutie but not the talented one. just imagine Adam Lambert versus Kris Allen and Kris Allen won. it is no longer a surprise that AI still follows the votes and not the judges. the ugly part of this is, that was the last save. if jessica will still be in the bottom next week... then she will surely go home. i want jessica t owin of course... but that is how AI rolls.
• Calgary, Alberta
15 Apr 12
there is one thing I am sure though, if Jessica is Safe this week,another girl will go, Idol is the least female contestant friendly singing contest right now. We cant say its sexist though cos the ones doing the voting are Young girls, They were so young they still dont have idea what is talent yet, they support singers who revitalizes their hormones. Then after the heart rob wins, The young girls who voted him wont buy his album. they will move on to the next heart rob.
16 Apr 12
"revitalizes their hormones" nice use :) hehehehe
• Philippines
17 Apr 12
I just hope Jessica will grow to her potential and America sees that potential. The thing about the public sometimes is that they want to get what they want and they don''t care of its quality. As long as it can satisfy their needs, it's fine. I respect the judges opinion but perhaps, it is also frustrating to see a talent go home and go to waste (for the moment) without being acknowledged for it is. Pity there's no other save options from now on.
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
Majority of the audience dont vote, they just watch because voting have charges I think. This voting shenanigans happened ever since they have cellphones. this picture basically explains everything: http://www.mylot.com/w/image/2561075.aspx
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
well, at least, there is a big population out three who can vote and they don't vote once but twice, thrice and so forth. I wonder how much the telecom companies are earning from this.
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
Many people had been suggesting that it should be 1 vote per households so little girls will stop abusing the system but the producers dont want to do it. They admitted that little girls are doing over voting to save their crush but they don't want to change the system cos of the income they will lose. Little girls and Teen girls are aggressive voters, they said some of them votes 2 hours straight.
• Philippines
17 Apr 12
@ hours straight? with that they can vote or outvote anyone, even their own president! anyway, I guess the obsession with young guys with a pretty face and a lovely singing voice is a good indicator of success and popularity of the show. =I will consider that they have the talent but those little or teenage girls grow up too. Preferable faster.
@jaiho2009 (39182)
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
I just hope that AI viewers will understand what the three judges said. Vote smart! And yes, not the cutie or the face- but the real talent. Anyway, whether Jessica wins or not, I am sure a recording company is waiting for her. Her voice is great enough to put her into stardom- win or lose from AI.
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
I dont know if the little girls with cellphones will listen though, I mean they were kids, they dont have the maturity to know what talent is, but damn adults just love to watch then complain when outstanding singers got voted off. The 3 most talented contestants are the bottom 3. Other singing contests intentionally eliminated cute guys or put them into singing groups with girl members to make sure their system wont be invaded by LGWC (Lil girls with cellphones)
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
@jaiho I hoe so too. Although i really don;t think it will happen but I still hope that there is a good portions of talent and popularity. I believe that a person or an artist can benefit from those and so does the audience. i just hope the some Opel will not elevate this issue further than it should. @captain Always the realist, eh captain? I think some little girls will vote for what their heart desires and in a way, it is to be expected. We all have our own individual tastes and our choices in everything. And we often follow them even with a reasonable argument. I haven't heard of these groups or contests who eliminate the cute guys. But then again, sometimes they are just eye candy.
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
X-factor eliminated most of the cute guys before public votes while put some of them in singing groups. The Voice decided to cast manly men and decided not to cast boyish guys.
@bhonti (1246)
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
Its right that the public will be given more power than the judges. After all, they will also be the one who will buy their records and download there songs once the American Idol winner is proclaimed. I think Jessica's problem is her appeal to the public. She is not that appealing to the audience that's why she has gotten the lowest number of votes. On the other hand, another view to look onto is maybe, because Jessica is really good enough that people think that they do not have to vote for her because other people will.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
Thanks for delivering your thoughts and your perspective. You made very valid reasons and both of them are possible. Well, I just wonder how much of the talent and popularity is required to make an IDOL. never been been in the entertainment business so i am bit clueless about this stuff.
@bhonti (1246)
• Philippines
20 Apr 12
I am glad you this my view as a valid one. Jessica is a really great singer and I want her to win.
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
I believe the judges know better. They have more experiences (when it comes to music) than most of the American audience, I presume. Plus, they hear them sing live. Maybe there is a difference between hearing the contestants sing live and when you just watch and hear them on TV. :)
• United States
16 Apr 12
I believe there is, altirbonganay. Last year my daughter and I went to see the Idol tour when they came to our city in the summer. We wanted to see Haley and James. Plus Casey. Stefano had never been a favorite of ours. But when he did a duet with Pia - and we heard it live - I couldn't believe my ears. He could SING! He was better than Pia in the duet! He was wonderful with his version of Bruno Mars "Grenade" live, also. Sometimes it doesn't always come across through the t.v. for some weird reason. At the same time, Haley sounded soooo much better live, too.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
I will credit that the judges know their stuff - a reason why they are picked in the position in the first place. Thanks for bringing the point of live singing and mediated singing. I don' really have any background, so it is a nice insight. The thing that kinda concerns me is w the clash between talent and popularity and the result if those two entities clash together.
@timetravel (1428)
• United States
15 Apr 12
It reminds me of the Pia elimination last year with one major difference - Jessica is a far better singer and has more "soul" than Pia did. I wasn't a major fan of hers, even after hearing her sing I Will Always Love You - and then she did Beyonce's song Beautiful Nightmare - and totally won me over. I really think that was her best. Not only did she sing it perfectly, she made it very unique - almost a new song. I have no idea how Hollie gets in week after week - she has a big voice, is not pitch perfect - and it is, like Jimmy Iovine said - like watching a high school glee club singer. It seems to be that the little tweens vote for the cute guys (Philip or Colton) and ignore the real talent - this is not to say that Philip and Colton aren't talented - Colton has impressed me more and more lately, esp. his version of Skylar Grey's song - but Jessica has the "it" factor. Losing on Idol is not the end of the road. Look at Adam Lambert, Daughtry, Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson - even Crystal Bowersox and David Archuletta - all have done better or comparable to the "winners". Lee Dewyze got dropped from his record label- a total flop. Crystal is acting and still touring. If the public orchestrates a backlash against Jessica, this will show that A.I. has lost all integrity. That is why I prefer the Voice. Fifty percent of the vote is from the coaches (judges) - like DWTS. The save is these judges only voting contribution. I think it's supposed to be a wake-up call. But it doesn't always work. Last year, Casey was saved and made it in another three - four weeks. That is fine. But will Jessica? At age 16 she is remarkable. Joshua was also fantastic. He ended up in the bottom 3. I wonder - if Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood were contestants today, would they still win? In the age of texting?
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
Most likely they wont, because they have a uterus. we know that the text votes age just ruined the chances of everyone with a Uterus in idol. The remaining girls, No good performance can save them right now, All they need is a convincing sob story,I dont know but it seemed like femalesdo well if they have a sob story.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
@timetrael I don't really watch AI, so I cannot comment on the Pia incident or elimination. but I think I heard of it. I think IDOL and other popular reality talent search has this dilemma - having good or extremely good talent but o or less than desired popularity. I agree that losing on IDOL isn't the last word on talent - many runner-ups are even more suceesful than the actual winners. But everybody is so psyched and attentive to the winner that others seems less than talented if they aren't really are. I have heard of The Voice and sometimes, I do refer it over IDOL. judges decide on talent, not on appearance. what matters is the Voice - whether they can deliver or not. And then, the real competition between groups, begins. @captain. Lord, I laughed at the uterus comment. You have a good thing with imagination.Captain. I'm not against the sob stories, as long as it's not exaggerated to the point of annoyance.
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@Graceekwenx (3162)
• Philippines
15 Apr 12
Oh yahhhhhhhh! Jessica is soooooo talented... all her performances are consistently woahhhhh!!! The judges are right, you have to vote for the one who sings best and for the one who really serves AI title. Jessica comes from a poor family... not only does she deserves it, she needs it... her family needs it...
• Calgary, Alberta
16 Apr 12
Her mom is from a poor family but she is not from a poor family. You notice how good looking her house were compared to other contestant, then she make a fatal mistake of saying "shopping is her hobby" and she loves fashion. she just said to america that she have lots of Money.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
@grace. I will confess that i have no idea on terms of Jessica's background but I think every artist and dreamer on IDOL walks the same path - trying to achieve their dream and passion while still trying to contribute to the financial needs of the family. @captain. Okay. thanks for the info on he background.
@vycess (1588)
• Saudi Arabia
15 Apr 12
I watched that and shocked when jessica was eliminated then saved by the judges. They were called judges to judge who they think the best singer is in American Idol so for me it's not being bias. the public will be guided who will they vote through the judges opinions but then again Judges cannot control the public with their decisions. It will be the greatest challenge to jessica how will she win the public's votes.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
Very reasonable answer, vycess. I think in an ideal setting, it could work but you can never know it when you have the public as your audience and judge. Perhaps, this is the reason for the 'save' option, so that the judges can intervene with the public's decision. I just don;'t know if the public will appreciate and comprehend why the 'save' was made or if they are going to stick to issue. But then again, I am not part of the American audience that crows the american IDOL. Let's just hope that she can have all the time that she needs on the show to prove herself to her audience and the general population.
@doroffee (4224)
• Hungary
15 Apr 12
It's always hard to decide in situations like this. They say that the ultimate judge is the audience, who will who's gonna (or not gonna) buy the music. But in this case, in my opinion, is different, and it's good that the jury has a word (like they do in X-Factor, too-I can talk about that more, as I'm from Hungary). Because in these competitions not only popularity and talents count, but whether the certain contestants' friend, people in the place they live, ethnic supporter, supporters of their beliefs (tell me if I'm wrong, but in American Idol there have been really numerous occasions when more conservative Christian were let through instead of crazier personalities), if they have a sob story or if they are the ones people feel sorry for. It's a really big problem sometimes in Hungary... or not a problem, but an issue, because... well, throughout Hungary's history, lots of Hungarians were forced to live in other countries because of the contracts and treaties after World War I, and these communities really keep together, and they send thousands of votes on people who come from those places. Or if they come from a smaller town, townies usually send a lot of votes. Also, it's kind of tricky in these shows, because you never know what kind of music these contestants are going to release (if any) after the show. Those who have voted for them, may not buy the CD, if they aren't fans of their own songs. And that's the silliest thing to rebel against the contestant. It's not like they threatened the jury to vote for them :D.
• Philippines
16 Apr 12
Your views are very welcome, doroffee. I myself aren't fully and really familiar with the workings of a reality singing shows but I think as you said, it is a tough situation. You have two entities of judgement over a contestant or talent. These two entities aren't always gonna agree on what they think is best. Even though it will the public who will buy the music, let's not forget that a portion of the public do support the otehr contestant, and sometimes, even two or more contestants. I understanding the concept of the 'sob story' formula, I guess it even works in America and Hungary. I also agree with your second sentiment. I guess teh future, even of teh IDOLs can be seen as unclear.