Abortion Quote of the Day 5/22/2012
By Opalina143
@opalina143 (1240)
Morristown, New Jersey
May 22, 2012 9:46am CST
I want to discuss abortion – yes, I know this is a hot button issue, and one that many people don't like to bring up in their daily lives because of how sensitive it is, but here on the Internet where we are all anonymous and it doesn't really matter what people think of us usually, I thought maybe we could have some interesting discussions. Unless anyone objects, I'm going to post quote an abortion every day for discussion. Here is the quote for today:
"If I see a case...after twenty weeks, where it frankly is a child to me, I really agonize over it because the potential is so imminently there...On the other hand, I have another position, which I think is superior in the hierarchy of questions, and that is "who owns this child?" It's got to be the mother."
The late Dr. James MacMahon, who performed D&X (also known as Partial Birth) abortions
Cheryl Alkon "Confessions of an Abortion Doctor" Boston Magazine December 2004
to me, this quote shows that even abortionists have qualms about late-term abortion. In America, abortion is legal in every state until the 24th week, and in some states all the way through pregnancy. For example, in New Jersey, you can walk into an abortion clinic and have an abortion on the day before you were to deliver. No one is sure how often this happens, but it is perfectly legal. Many Americans don't know this.
There is a website that shows the different laws that are on the books in different states, you can find it here:
http://clinicquotes.com/site/story.php?id=285
Anyway, I'm interested in hearing what people think about this quote and about abortion.
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8 responses
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 May 12
Any doctor who uses a word like "potential" about a child at 20 weeks gestation is being intellectually dishonest. He knows that at 20 weeks, this baby has a full central nervous system, its own brain waves, its own blood type and is a real human being in every way - it is just small and helpless. When babies born at 23 weeks have survived, there is no justification for allowing abortion to 24 weeks. Saying it is "frankly a child" at 20 weeks is the most honest thing this man said.
There is nothing in Roe v. Wade that would not allow abortion to the very day before delivery and yet some states regulate abortion to disallow third trimester abortions. But how can it be so? If it is a basic right, then why isn't it a right up to the very day before delivery? Why not, as some medical ethicists have recently suggested, allow the killing of newborns?
The doctors who perform these abortions know what they are doing and they know that they are taking fully human lives. No mother "owns" a child after it is born, how is it that a mother "owns" a human being before it is born? A fetus in the womb is not part of a woman's body and she does not own it.
However, if one is supposed to consider the fetus to be a part of a woman's body and is so considered by the law and the courts and, if she is considered to "own" parts of her body, why may she not sell her body parts? She can kill a baby in the womb, but she cannot sell her own kidney.
These are the basic problems with the entire abortion philosophy. They do not follow medical science, fact, fetal biology or logic.
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@preciousjayje (125)
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22 May 12
I do hate abortion. I remember that topic was one of the thing that my hubby and I argued. He has lots of reasons why. Others sounds convincing, yet i'ts not still the best option for me because it was not the child's fault. He must not be the one to be blamed of the mistakes that happened between his mom or dad.
@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
23 May 12
I agree with you preciousjay, the baby doesn't deserve to die because of the mistakes of the mother and father. When you argued with her husband, were you actually pregnant, or was it just hypothetical? If that's a personal question you don't have the answer – I'm just wondering if you actually went through pregnancy yourself that was difficult and you're speaking from experience. I've never been pregnant, but if I became pregnant I would put the baby up for adoption rather than having an abortion.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
26 May 12
I believe that in early pregnancy a lady can be very emotional. It can be scary for a lady that has not planned to have a baby the word "pregnant" on a home pregnancy test. In my home pregnancy is permitted up to 24 weeks pregnancy. Although it is allowed later in pregnancy if the lady's life is in danger or the baby is seriously disabled. I found out at 36 weeks pregnancy that my son has spina bifida and hydrocephalus. I was offered an abortion and said no way. I let my darling little baby boy be born. He is now a happy little 5 year old. It is the lady's choice but she is better aborting her baby. Plenty of people wish to adopt and make wonderful parents. Yes, the lady that is pregnant owns the baby. Let us hope she lets the baby be born. I am against abortion and think it is very wrong indeed.
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
31 May 12
I knew people had done abortion, and I was totally against it. Abortion took away a child birth's right, and we as human has no such right to determine another pre - born's person fate. We just took away their birth rights. I think those teens and mother should re - consider abortion twice before they really going to do it. Should we really want to kill a baby this way. Why not let him/her live, and give him/her a chance.
@konomashii (49)
• Philippines
26 May 12
about the quote, i think the ownership shouldn't be present there. it isn't about the ownership, its not just a thing. it has a life, heartbeat, etc. the life of the baby should depend on the decision of his parents (not just for the mother or father- it should be both of them).
well about the abortion, here in our country, as of now, they make abortion illegal, anyone who'll commit abortion will be punished by law mostly the abortionist.
but as for me, it would be fine to commit abortion, WHY? what if the parents cant afford to raise a child? what if they came from a very poor family? what if the parents are sick? will the child be raised properly? how will he live having a life like that? will the gov't help him have a better life? will you let him suffer?
Yes, they made him, but as human beings, the answer to that is "It's a need" right?
so we shouldn't be asked on "why did you do that?" the question should be "how to give him a life?" if we couldn't give the baby's needs,he'll suffer. so the tendency would be,
are you sure you want to continue the conception or abort it when there is still time?
@JHkerriokey (105)
• United States
22 May 12
I have a friend who went to school to be a nurse. her first job was the only nursing type job she could find in our area where she didn't need prior experience. She was kind of a clean up aid for those who went through with an abortion. She hated it and cried every day. She justified it with the fact that she was getting her experience in and would soon be on the other side. She worked there for a year before getting into where she wants to be. She is currently working in a nursing home :) the extreme other end :)
@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
23 May 12
do you think I might be able to talk to your friend? I am writing a book on abortion and I want to hear about the experiences of abortion providers. I would love to interview her – or at least send her a couple of questions to answer – she can do it anonymously, and doesn't have to give her name – I'm really interested in hearing about her experiences, even just in a few sentences.please let me know okay?
@syramoon (654)
• United States
22 May 12
As for me I could never work at a job I had moral qualms with, no matter how much money I made.
I'm prochoice, because you never know all of anyone's reasons for doing anythings, although I also support going to full term and going the route of adoption. Personally I do not think that I could ever get an abortion, barring medical reasons, that would kill me and the unborn child. It wouldn't matter whether it was early term or late term.
I don't understand how someone who it pains so much to do these things can keep on doing them.
@tackleberry2785 (1)
• United States
22 May 12
I am not against abortion. I do however believe that it should be done as soon as possible. I do find late-term abortions more disturbing, unless it a health issue. I have worked in a medical office, but I don't think I could do that. If a woman doesn't want a child its likely to be mistreated or abused. A family member has had an abortion and I know that if she hadn't the child would not have had a good life because she could not care for it at the time. These doctors are preventing the abuse and neglect of many children and saving many womens lives. I do however believe there is a line. If a woman carries it for over 24 weeks and still doesn't feel she wants the child she should carry it and give it up for adoption. Unless there is a serious health risk it is purely selfish and morally questionable. Abortion is ok if its done to prevent the abuse unwanted children suffer or to save the life of a woman so she can have a healthy child later. I think its terrible that they would abort a full term baby in New Jersey. There should be laws and procedure in place to make sure its done in a timely manner and for the right reasons
