A Theory on IQ Test Point Deviations

@nerein (283)
United States
May 30, 2012 11:16pm CST
Now I am not obssesed with my own intelligence, but I am kind of obssesed with how intelligence works. One way to test intelligence is to give an IQ test. One thing that I want to say right off the bat that no matter how high or low you score on the test, you always score lower than than what you perform on the test. The reason for this is because depending on the IQ test given, there is either a 13 or 15 point deviation. How the deviations are different based on verbal intelligence and performance intelligence. With verbal intelligence there is either a 3 or 5 point deviation. With performance intelligence there is a 10 point deviation. Now if you took a test like the wais 3 or a test like it then there is a 13 point deviation. If the test that you took is an internet test then there is a 15 point deviation. Now for my theory as to why this is. I believe that depending on environment, mental health and a couple other factors, intelligence fluctuates with in the 13 or 15 point range. Now when they give you your scores, the scores are at the lowest part of the overall IQ range. So if your IQ is 115 and you took the wais 3 with the 13 point deviation taken away the highest end of the IQ range would be 128.
3 responses
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
31 May 12
I don't put much stock in an IQ. Perhaps part of that is that I'm not intelligent enough to personally recognize the significance. But it just doesn't do anything for me. That a rocket scientist is a rocket scientist isn't the result of a test suggesting the rocket scientist's IQ fell within the parameters of other rocket scientists. That a ditch digger is a ditch digger doesn't mean their IQ couldn't be that of a rocket scientist's. And I just wanna say rocket scientist one more 'gain to say I said it. It's very unimportant for most people, I imagine. I received a score somewhat above average when I was tested, and I have since taken tests again for shites and giggles. But I had more of a Karl Pilkington reaction to my score either way -- a blank stare and an "alright." It wasn't life altering; I didn't think I could or couldn't do something based on any final result. But if it makes someone feel great to get a high score, I suggest cheating!
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
31 May 12
I don't get as high as 162 (but thanks for boosting my confidence!). I generally get around 140 - 145 (which makes me eligible for Mensa, I believe) ... and then I read the disclaimer at the bottom (in small, grey, hard to read type) which says that this is 'for entertainment only' and they cannot really promise that I will actually earn $547,997 a week ... Uhhh-ohh ... sorry, that's another page! The last time I was reliably tested (some years ago now), I scored 135. Definitely University material, though I never went down that route.
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
31 May 12
I think that you have misunderstood the significance of the numbers 15 and 3 when given as measures of standard deviation. You probably need to know more about general probability theory and the way that IQ scores are adjusted to fit the normal curve (often called the 'bell curve' because of its shape. When a test is set up, it is first used on a representative sample of the population and the method of scoring is then adjusted to normalize the 'bell curve' so that the median of the results is equal to 100 and that 95% of the whole population's scores lie within plus or minus two SDs of the median. The SD is normalised (in most modern tests) to be 15 so that in any test of a representative sample of the population, 95% of the scores will be between 70 and 130. Any individual who takes the test can now be matched to the rest of the population and any particular score can be said to show that there is a likelihood (not an absolute certainty) that that individual's mental ability is the same as that of others with the same score. This probability that two scores being the same represent the same mental ability can also be mapped onto a normal ('bell') curve and the standard error of measurement is about 3 points, or in other words, the odds are about 2 out of 3 that a person's true IQ is in range from 3 points above to 3 points below the test IQ. If you were to take a standard test and your score was 115, therefore, the chances are about 66% that your actual level on the scale will be between 112 and 118 or, to put it another way, there is a 95% chance that your true IQ is in a range from 4 to 5 points above to 4 to 5 points below the test IQ, depending on the test in question. I have only given a brief outline above and you can read much more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iq There are plenty of pages on the web which will give you a basic introduction to probability theory and will help you understand why, in any particular test, your score isn't absolute but shows, with a specified level of confidence that you are within a range of other, similar, scores by other people. It is also worth stressing that you cannot rely on the IQ scores given by tests on the Internet. These are not taken under the controlled conditions required to obtain a valid score (the dog may jump up at you and distract you while you are taking the test or you may decide that you need a coffee!) and, although the questions and the scoring methods may be derived from actual tests, it is quite likely that the programmers have 'adjusted' the results so that everyone's scores are somewhat higher than they should be.
• United States
31 May 12
"it is quite likely that the programmers have 'adjusted' the results so that everyone's scores are somewhat higher than they should be." Hell yeah. Congratulations, Owlwings! You've just scored an incredibly impressive 162 on our test! Purchase the full report now for detailed information about your intelligence and sign up for our newsletter.
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
31 May 12
There are some comments I ought to make on this because I may not have been quite explicit enough in my description. 1) "... the way that IQ scores are adjusted to fit the normal curve" Any set of scores (or figures) obtained from a number of measurements of different individuals will, if plotted on a graph, tend to show a curve which has something like the shape of a bell. If, for example, you measure the heights of a large number of adults and record the number of people who fall between particular ranges (say, of a centimetre or an inch, so that you count everyone who is more than 60 inches and less than 61, more than 61 and less than 62 and so on), when you plot those numbers on a graph, you will find that you have many more people of a particular height than others who are much shorter or taller. The curve which you will get will be approximately bell-shaped and the ideal version of this curve has a particular formula such that it is possible to calculate mathematically what the likelihood is that any individual taken at random will be of a particular height. With the scoring of something like an IQ test, it is possible to adjust the scoring method so that the curve of all the scores fits a particular equation with a score of 100 being the median (or average) of the scores of the whole population and the standard deviation (you may need to look up the meaning of 'standard deviation' and the way it is calculated) being arranged so that it has a value of 15. One of the advantages of statistics as a tool is that you can take a random sample of a group of objects and calculate how likely it is that the whole group will have a similar range of measurements. The larger the sample you take, the more likely it will be that the whole group will have the same characteristics. It would be impossible to measure the heights of every single adult man and woman on the planet, but by taking a representative sample (say 100, or 1000 or 10,000 people drawn from every country in proportion to the total populations of those countries) it is possible to say, within a certain level of confidence, what the average height and ranges of heights are for the whole population.
• Australia
2 Jun 12
I have taken several IQ tests over the course of the last fifty odd years, and all of them, official or entertainment standard, have fallen in that 4-5 point variation you mentioned. When I went back to Uni in my late 50s it seemed to stimulate my brain, and I scored at the top end of "my" scale at the end of my PhD program. At the beginning, after many years of intellectual laziness, I scored at the lower end of that variation. As psychologist Abraham Maslow, himself tested at 182, said, IQ tests have definite limitations, but within those limitations are a useful tool. My study of Jung in recent years convinced me that the standard IQ test shows only one kind of intelligence, "instrumental" or logic based intelligence, and doesn't necessarily have much to do with either people skills (Emotional IQ), ethical standards (Ethical IQ), creativity, or common sense. As a guide to potential success in academic pursuits, however, it is highly accurate. It is biased toward verbal skills, abstract symbology, and numeric competence, so environmental factors play a large part in the result. Considering that my Jungian typology puts me firmly in the "emotional" (value-based) sector of human type rather than the logical, it always surprises me how well I actually perform in logic-based IQ tests. Lash