Why Should I Be Expected To Pay??!?

@rodney850 (2145)
United States
June 3, 2012 1:58pm CST
I know I will be labeled a hater by the liberals here on mylot when they read this post but then again, I already have that label by liberals anyway by just being a conservative. When I was a young man (long long time ago)My wife at the time and I had two children. I was in my mid-twenties and relatively a newbie in the workforce and therefore didn't command a huge salary nor did I have some of the benifets I enjoy today. Both of my children were born without the assistance of insurance or the government which means, I had to pay for their medical expenses. I also had to put clothes on their backs, food in their tummies and a roof over their heads and all of this without assistance from the department of welfare or anyone else except family on rare occasions. I did not apply for medicaid, welfare or food stamps, it was never a consideration since I was able bodied and could work. I say all of this to say that America has become a nation of what I call "professional slackers" and it is a very disheartening situation. We have made our country this way by allowing liberal government policies and "entitlement" programs to spiral out of control and we have lived with this so long that the only fix anyone can suggest is another government program to help offset all of the shortcomings instead of what families and companies do when there is too much month at the end of the money--tighten their belt and cut expenses! The only way to eliminate the welfare state is to wean people off the government and teach them how to go to work for what they want or need. If our country continues with the mentality taught by the liberalists of tax, tax, tax, spend, spend, spend--America as we know it now will cease to exist. How long before we as WORKING Americans say ENOUGH! A law from the biblical times declared that a man who wouldn't work wouldn't be allowed to eat. Now before you get your silks in a wad that said wouldn't, not couldn't, although I firmly believe there a great(huge) number of couldn't's that should be in the wouldn't collumn
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@stealthy (8181)
• United States
3 Jun 12
I agree with you. The problem is that the liberals want people who are dependent on the government so they can be elected and re-elected. This has been going on for decades. The other problem is that many people who do have jobs don't save when they have the chance. For them the liberals have convinced them that they should spend way over what they can afford just like the government does. A big example of this is the notion that everyone should "own" a house even though they can't afford one; they don't even have enough for a down payment. This is a big part of the reason for the recent recession and all the foreclosures. One might say the lending rules were relaxed but people still had to be foolish enough to do what this allowed them to do. I have always lived within my means and saved and never had any debt except for the mortgages on the three houses that I have owned(not at the same time) and which I could afford to own because I was able to make a significant down payment, well over 50% on my current home. I get really tired of paying through my taxes for the people who just spend everything and make no effort to save.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Jun 12
One of the biggest reasons our economy has been in the toilet for the past three years was that very notion that everyone should be able to own a home. The sad truth is that's a lie! There are many things involved in owning a home other than just the mortgage payment. When things break or become inoperative you cant call the landlord to come fix it because that's YOU! If you are on an ultra tight budget because of an especially high mortgage payment then you have to buy something as expensive as an A/C unit, the downhill spiral can start real easily.
@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
3 Jun 12
you are assuming many things in your argument. you are assuming that there are equal opportunities for everyone and equal access for these opportunities. these are non-existent in our society today. some people are inherently in good position than others to go to schools and find jobs. since birth, there are people who are more likely to be successful than others. that's why it is justified to have an intervention from the government to equalize something.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Jun 12
Sorry, I just don't buy into that philosophy at all. Years ago (decades) what you say was probably sadly true but today if people are willing to stay in school, just through high school, not even college, the opportunities are there. They are not going to start out paying 50k or 40 or 30k a year but you have to start somewhere. NO, it's not easy but it is much better than depending on the government which at some point will fail because socalism has ALWAYS failed and if America continues on it's present course we will go down the same path that all other socialistic countries have gone. We are not a total socialistic country yet but we rapidly approach the point of no return
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 Jun 12
Mensab, everyone has equal access to public schools. I know some schools are considered better than others, but even the worst schools have dedicated teachers. They're typically the worst because the kids in those schools have parents who aren't involved enough in their children's education. I don't know why you think some people are inherently in a better position to find jobs. I've hired plenty of people and I can tell you, I couldn't care less if a kid comes from a wealthy family or a poor family. Some rich kids make horrible employees and some poor kids are extremely dedicated because they want to better their lives. I generally don't know, and don't want to know, the finances of people that I interview. I want to know two things, can they do the job, and will they do the job to the best of their ability. Also, when hiring people for jobs that require a college education, the school they went to doesn't mean jack to me. They could come from University of Illinois (the number 1 school for library science) or they could be from some school I've never heard of. The school is really pretty meaningless to me since all colleges are accredited. I also don't know, or care, if they're rich parents paid for their college or if they took out student loans.
• Battle Creek, Michigan
4 Jun 12
In the United States, everyone has an equal opportunity for education and employment. An individual has to make the choice to take advantage of the opportunities.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
4 Jun 12
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Used to be, people worked two or three low paying jobs to make ends meet or they cut down on extras, did without, saved instead of buying on credit. We now feel it is our 'right' to own things, to have things, and to have them despite lack of a way to pay for them. Materialism is rampant. We worship at the feet of consumerism. I've worked for low wages all my life. Refused the temptation for credit line, and have never owned a home. I learned how to do for myself, not rely on someone to do it for me. Soon, all will HAVE TO do this whether they want to or not. The system is overwhelmed and about to go down. No more free lunch, whatcha gonna do? Starve or do for yourself. It's time to learn how.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
4 Jun 12
I agree with you, however there is a some big problems doing this. 1. Some people will starve...probably children 2. There will be mass rioting in the streets. Even Bill Clinton was able to buy in the notion of making welfare reciprocants to do stuff to better themselves when they received assistant.