People win in Wisconsin and the Unions lose

What about the millions that the Unions paid into Mayor Barretts campaign and the oput of state workers who were brought in and in many cases were paid Union workers that do not count as a $ contribution. Why didn't George Soros or the Hollywood types come up with some money? I know of school districts that have saved a million or more in insurance costs simply because they could bid the contracts, something that was not allowed under the Union Contracts. Also the Union membership has dropped by as much as 50% in some Unions.

Deb, the point is that if Scott Walker's message was so strong why did he need $59 MILLION from out of state special interest to push it? The other question is: What did they get out of it? If I am spending tens of millions that is not a donation, that is an investment, and in many cases people will want to know what I got for my investment. "True. But nothing in Wisconsin law outlawed out of state political spending before or after Citizens United." That was a federal law before Citizens United that stopped that from happening.

http://newsok.com/citizens-united-real-impact-on-wi-recall-zero/article/feed/390804 An analysis by the Center for Public Integrity found that Walker outraised his vanquished opponent Tom Barrett by nearly eight to one, and that outside groups supporting Walker vastly outspent unions, thanks to Citizens United. But the Center for Public Integrity link Sargent provides proves no such thing. Yes, Barrett was outspent heavily. But none of the money spent on Walker's behalf would have been illegal before Citizens United either. Here is what CPI does report: Tuesday’s recall election of Republican Gov. Scott Walker is the most expensive in Wisconsin history. More than $63.5 million has been spent by candidates and independent groups, the overwhelming majority underwritten by out-of-state sources. True. But nothing in Wisconsin law outlawed out of state political spending before or after Citizens United. Here is something interesting: Critics of Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin submitted to the state on Tuesday more than a million signatures, nearly twice as many as required, on recall petitions against him to force a new election. But where were those 900,000 + voters when it came time to vote? Seems to me some of those signatures may not have be legit? If they'd all been so serious about ousting Walker, why did he not GET 900,000 + votes?

You have to look at the Walker victory along with the vote in San Diego and San Jose CA. People are voting for Fiscal responsibility. The public is fed up with the Public Sector Unions and their control over the units of government. Even Union members are getting fed up with the Union Bosses. How else do you explain how a community that has a strong base votes against what the Union wants. I have sat on both sides of the negotiating table. I have seen the management make an offer that employees might like, but the Union will not allow a vote. In one case the management offered a salary increase with no layoff. The Union would not present it to member unless it contained a larger salary increase and they did not care about the ones who got laid off. The Union leader told the team that his job was to get the best deal for those who survive the cuts. I later learned that his salary was based on how big a salary package he could get because Union Dues were a percent of the salary and the Union did not want anyone to settle below the targets because the Union pitch for new members is how much we can get you in salary increases - don't mention how many lost their job to get that increase.

It all depends on WHO is spending the money? Are they folks who want to see the Constitution and Bill of Rights upheld? Are all rich people EVIL? And if the statists can draw upon Geo. Soros for money, why can't those who want to defend their Constitution and Bill of Rights depend on the Koch bros? Has anyone investigated just what Geo. Soros wants for America, and what he Koch bros. want?

It's always about the money...in the Union's coffers. Then they spend it to get the politicians who will enact legislation that favors them getting even MORE money. There are union bosses who live in mansions and own private jets too. In fact, most of them are millionaires.

I have several friends in different Unions and they tell me that they only get to vote on the contract that the Union Approve. They don't know what management is offering. One even told me that several employees were laid off and the Union had not presented a plan for lower pay increases (not a pay cut) and keeping all the employees on staff. The Union is out for themselves and the Union Bosses and not the employees they represent.

It will be very interesting to see how this works out for Wisconsin. When you look at states like Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana, less union workers has equaled lower median income, and less high paying jobs. We will see how it works out for you guys up there. GOOD LUCK!!!!

Wisconsin chose to keep Walker and rejected the Unions. http://www.examiner.com/article/wisconsin-rewards-walker-reject-union-tactics “Even if you disagree with Walker’s policies, does that justify cutting short his term as governor? And if so, where does such logic lead? To more recall elections? More turmoil? It’s time to end the bickering and get back to the business of the state. We’ve had our differences with the governor, but he deserves a chance to complete his term.” And that was written and published in a paper that counts itself as speaking for Democrats. In a very 'blue' area of the state.

It is not a mandate, he only won by 7%. It is an example of why the Supreme CORRUPT Court was WRONG in allowing all of this money into politics. TENS OF MILLIONS OF SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY bought this election plain and simple. Why did Walker need $60 MILLION from the right wing money machine to win?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/06/Media-Spin-Recall-As-Money-Suck And the unions spent lots to defeat Walker, and they are the ultimate special interest group. $21M exactly. Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million. Campaign contributions tell only part of the story. National unions have kept Barrett’s campaign alive by funding outside groups dedicated to defeating Walker. More than a year since Walker limited collective bargaining rights for most public employees, the nation’s three largest public unions — the National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) — have channeled at least $2 million from their treasuries and super PACs to two Wisconsin-based independent expenditure groups. (In addition to UNION money-the $21M) It’s also worth noting that while Republicans largely had to build their ground game from the ground up, labor unions have a consistent ground game – funded by tax dollars.

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