local bank deducts $6

@Cutie18f (9551)
Philippines
June 23, 2012 6:12pm CST
Recently, I went to BPI, a local bank where I get the cash from Paypal, and learned one frustrating fact. I asked them why the money that we receive from Paypal turns out very small when Paypal only charges Php 50 for their service. The manager of the bank told me that they also have their own charge of $ 6.00 no matter what the amount for Paypal transactions. He said that they are also being charged by Swift (I don't know what this is) and so they are also forced to charge the $6 fee. Isn't this too exorbitant? I mean, it is a rip-off! Share your views please.
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16 responses
• United States
23 Jun 12
I have had that problem too in the past. That is why I have two different banks that I use. One for my paypal and another one for everything else. My main bank would charge 5.00 for every paypal deposit, while the other bank charges me nothing as long as I let the money sit in my savings account for 3 business days, else wise it is only a 1.00 charge. They say it has something to do with using their network and paypal's network. I don't know I just think it is a way to make you pay the bank extra money. When I used to use my other paypal account for a lot of things and had more than 20.00 in my paypal I got their debit card. There was no fee's when I shopped or paid bills. You might want to look into that choice.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
23 Jun 12
Hi Minnie! But you are in the US. Your banks probably have different policies there. Our banks here are like crocs.
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• United States
23 Jun 12
Hey Cutie, I looked up the different policies and it looks like no matter what bank you use in the Philippines you will be charged 5.00 min and then the bank has the right to have their own surcharge. This is because the money amounts have to be changed from American money to the type of money in your country (sorry I don't know what it is called). There is an exchange rate that all countries charge, some have a lower amount while others are pretty high. My sister had the same problem when she was in Japan, talk about fees, they have a fee for everything you do, no matter how small. It basically comes down to economic issues that countries work out with each other. From what I was able to find out is that when you want to send money to someone in the Philippines it is a pain in the back side because of all the rules on how much can be sent and that each bank has the right to make what ever charge they want for the transfer. Sorry I could not be more helpful. Quick question, what is the money in your country called? In everything I looked at it just showed a 'P' before the amount.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
It's pesos. Everytime I withdraw money from my PayPal account using Banco de Oro (Philippine bank), the bank deducts P200 apart from the P50 deducted by PayPal. It's really like that.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
23 Jun 12
I live in the USA and so I don't have to deal with this, but I do think that it's a rip off. I don't understand why so big of a fee. I can understand maybe a smaller fee such as what PP charges you, but for the bank to charge also? Is ther anyway you can find out what swift is? that'd be my first step.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
23 Jun 12
Hello Some. Yes, I will ask another branch about it. These banks have a lot of hidden charges, it's so frustrating.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
23 Jun 12
I've come across hidden charges here before and they've waived the fee the first time because I was not aware of the charges. Maybe they'll do that for you as well.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I will try to work on this because $6 is too high for me.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Cutie18f, here are some points I'd like to raise: Money transfer is a service and a business. If companies like Western Union can and will charge an arm and a leg for its services, then we consumers should be grateful that PayPal actually extends this dirt-cheap service for consumers. Also, think of it this way: What is $6 compared to around $150 that you've received, right? If you really want to be able to receive your salary whole, factor in the charges and charge those to your clients. Else, use Xoom.com, Moneygram or Western Union instead and ask the client to pay you the whole fee. SWIFT is a banking system that allows banks to transact internationally. I surmise that this is so because a SWIFT code is needed when you enter your bank into PayPal. When you go to a grocery store, you pay the tricycle or jeepney driver the fare so you can get there. This is an analogy for the $6.00 that is deducted from you via BPI. BPI and BDO charge high fees for international transactions. If you prefer to see your money intact, I reiterate, choose Unionbank then.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Is the RCBC card a DEBIT/Visa Electron/Mastercard account? Can you verify your PayPal with it? I'll check your post. Hehe.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Well, you didn't state in your post whether the RCBC account is like Unionbank EON which can be used to verify your account. Unionbank EON has so far been the most reliable Debit Card/Visa Electron Card that has been able to truly verify a PayPal account. I once tried SmartMoney, but SmartMoney would lock its own account. :( I'm going to try BPI's My e-Prepaid and PS Bank's MasterCard in the future, too. :) BTW, how did you verify your PayPal if RCBC did not have that capacity?
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I would rather choose RCBC without any annual charges even maintaining balance too. But if you used the atm itself to other transaction like sending money to the atm accct. They charged 10.00 for the sender, more cheaper than any transferring money agent.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Unfortunately, this is our case and so it is best to have greater amount to be transferred than just have a few and be charged with the same amount. I also have some money on my paypal and don't really know what to do with it yet so I let it sit there for a while. I think it's best if you ask other banks regarding international SWIFT charges and paypal to bank transfers since I know that they differ. But, unluckily, those charges will still be there and the best we could do is to ask around and choose which bank fits us best. I think Metrobank have lesser charges compared to other banks in the Philippines. I've read it somewhere but they charge around Php70-100+ only compared to BDO and BPI. If I'd get a hold of that link I was able to find back then, I could share it to you.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Thanks. Yes, I am thinking of transferring to another bank.
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• Canada
24 Jun 12
Woa that a lot of money! If I were you, I would make some search where you can a free US bank account! I recall reading such thing where any countries can get one! Read the fine print though as not all those offer might allow to fund your pp account although!
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Really? Is that possible? So where do we withdraw the money in that case?
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• Canada
24 Jun 12
Few offers might provide some debit cards or something! Again, make sure you read fine print carefully!
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@erjnsimon (1191)
• Makati, Philippines
24 Jun 12
BPI charges high bank fees so I don't want to open an account with them. In fact, i don't have any bank account yet. Let my paypal earning stay in paypal by now. Ahaha. Nowadays, different banks offers easy savings accounts which enables very low deposits such as 50 pesos only. Sometimes this type of bank account are good cause they don't charge a high amount. Here in the Philippines, maybe UnionBank EON Visa Electron is a good one for paypal users because it can be use to verify your account. It only requires 350 pesos annual fee. Actually, i also don't know that banks charges for paypal deposits. :)
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Hi there erjnsimon, BPI has a no-maintaining bank account, the Easy Saver account. The ATM card is exactly like the regular savings bank account. Only, there is a Php 5.00 fee for withdrawals and Php 2.00 fee for balance inquiry. But all the perks are the same. You can do mobile and online banking with a BPI Easy Saver, no-maintaining balance account. I pay my friends and send money all via BPI. :P I used to be a BDO user, and then I discovered BPI. That's why I have three accounts there. xD
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
4 Jul 12
What? BPI charges us for balance inquiry and withdrawal? I didn't know that.
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I think charges should be based on the amount, at least.
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Wow cutie I don't know that BPI charged that much. I used RCBC and they don't have extra charge on bank. I double check my Paypal account now to see if there is also. But I saw my transaction history and the amount that only deducted is the free from Paypal and I withdraw it all from the bank without any extra charges. Maybe I should recommend you that you change bank. On RCBC they have a ATM e-wallet transaction that has no maintaining balance. Try to go online and search about this matter. If you wanted too.
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Oh wow! Good to know that RCBC is another option, aside from Unionbank EON! :) Thanks for sharing, Lyn. :)
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Yes it is a debit card. It does have a Php 350 yearly charge. I haven't updated mine, so I'm not sure if that has increased. Other banks: Diba once you've verified your account using either a credit or a debit card, you can already add more bank accounts? Or is the process different lately?
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Unionbank eon i think is a debit card that has yearly charges also it is used when you don't have credit card. Using other bank needs credit card verification from papal.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Jun 12
hi cutie hope my bank here in the US never d oes that. it does sound like a total rip off. I have never had any fees deducted from paypal when I deposit the earnings in my bank.But different countries do I suppose have different rules regarding paypal and depositing money
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• Philippines
2 Jul 12
Hi Hatley, Well, PayPal is a US-based entity. To transfer money across countries and borders also involves money: there are services rendered, people to be paid a salary, and all that. So, the fees are but fitting. PayPal is among the cheapest in options, actually. Though, the bank that Cutie chose actually charges the highest. We've suggested two banks that can give her the best value for her PayPal withdrawal, and I believe that will solve her problem. :)
@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
24 Jun 12
Have you already try to transfer money from your bank to another bank? Did you get charged by your bank? Its work like that, but in this case not Paypal who pay the charges fee but we who pay for it.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Local transferring of funds or bank to bank in the country has no charge I guess provided the receiver and the sender use the same bank. But we're talking about money transferred to our local bank from Paypal. The bank charges $6 for this.
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@narnia007 (1050)
• India
24 Jun 12
This is something that I am hearing new.I have received from Paypal thrice to my local bank and they did not charge me any fees.In fact Paypal charges some fees to get the dollars to be converted to my local money.That is it.My bank does not charge anything like the swift fees or something.Are you withdrawing in dollars directly or after being converted to your local currency.Which country you are from??/ ..I guess if you convert to your local currency in Paypal itself,the bank should not charge you anything.Talk to your manager again.In India there are no fees set by the local banks.Happy mylotting.
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@Mashnn (4501)
24 Jun 12
The charges are too much exeggarated. Just imagine if you were only transfering like $10. You would only end up having $4. Very unrealistic indeed.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
It's not even $4 because Paypal also has its own fee. What reaches us is less than $4 and we've worked so hard for that. These banks are so hungry for money.
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@Bhebelen14 (5194)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
It's a good thing that read this discussion before I link my paypal to my BPI account. Now I am more aware about the deductions and charges in other bank regarding Paypal payment. Thank you for this discussion.
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• India
24 Jun 12
Hi friend, sorry to hear about this. Swift is a code that provided to the bank to receive the international payments. But paypal don't deal with swift. They are using IFSC code. Send a support message to paypal using their twitter account @askpaypal regarding this issue, they will reply you
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Actually, those are just normal fees that SOME local Philippine banks charge PayPal withdrawals. There is only one Philippine account that does not impose charges, though their exchange rates are slightly lower. This is not an error, an issue or something worth disputing at all!
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• Philippines
24 Jun 12
But Cutie18f, you can try and verify with PayPal's twitter, as VidhyaPrakash has suggested. Though I bet they'd tell you that the bank fees are at the discretion of the local banks, it's still worth a shot to know, without a doubt, that these are the things we PayPal users need to deal with, when using PayPal.
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I think Paypal has nothing to do with the BPI bank charges since they have their own charges which is 50.00 in our own currency.
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@chriskoh (16)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
At least it's only $6. When you send abroad some money it would cost you a whooping $35 by wiretransfer. So this is a big discount for you already. You should be contented about it
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@syoti20 (5293)
• Philippines
4 Jul 12
That's a big rip off my friend. Why don't you used Union Bank instead. They will only charged you an Annual Fee of Php 150.00 in a year no more no less and you have ZERO MAINTAINING BALANCE.
@syoti20 (5293)
• Philippines
15 Jul 12
Sorry, my mistake.. Thank you for correcting me.
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
That is so true. I withdrew 500 pesos from my paypal account to BPI and what I got was only 250(estimated) pesos. Paypal fee is 50 pesos minus the BPI fees of 250-+ pesos thats why I got only 250 pesos. They are too much for the fees! I have an RCBC mywallet and I will try to withdraw with it and lets see if how much they will minus.
• Philippines
2 Jul 12
Hey Signupnow! :) Please let us know how the RCBC withdrawal went and how much was deducted from you. Thanks! :D