My Ultimate Question: Who Do You Say that I Am? (Regardless of What "They" Say)

@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
August 10, 2012 5:16pm CST
I "Search the Web"-ed (top of any myLot-page) for 'Ultimate Question,' and--among various entries for Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-"ultimate question" (whose answer was "42" or something)--I also saw a couple of 'Does God Exist?'s and one sermon. The sermon asked a lot of questions, but the one it ended with was the one Lord Jesus Christ asked Simon Peter: "Who do You say that I am?" So I guess that's my ultimate question, and it's the question I'm asking you now ... that, or 'What is Your ultimate question?'
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
11 Aug 12
"Who do you say (or think) that I am?" is probably the most burning question in most people's minds (and it usually carries with it the corollary: "... and is it anything approaching what *I* think I am?". We (nearly) all want to know what others think of us and hope that it at least matches what we think of ourselves. In fact, most people think less of themselves and of their capabilities than others perceive in them and are very unwilling to believe that they are REALLY as good as others see them. Jesus, of course, was asking a very different question. He KNEW beyond any doubt (in His mind) who and what He was. He wanted to know whether Simon Peter was able to express it and to admit it (He, of course, already knew that Simon Peter knew exactly what He was). I think that we have to read ALL of what the four writers of the Gospels have said about the life, sayings and thoughts of Jesus before we, too, can decide whether He was either lying or deceiving himself or, in fact, merely telling the exact and literal truth about what and who He was/is. It is, perhaps, worthy of note that He NEVER calls himself 'Emmanuel' or 'The Christ' or even 'The Son of God'. He calls himself 'The Son of Man' but refers to God (and asks us to do the same) as His Father. In fact, when addressing God directly, the evidence is that He uses (and encourages us to use) a very intimate form of address - 'abba' or, in English, 'dad' or 'daddy'. That leads me to think of Jesus as my very dear (elder) brother. Who do I say that YOU are, Mythociate? I don't know yet ... but perhaps I'm learning. No doubt I shall tell you when the time is right!
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
25 Aug 12
'Oy! How long must I suffer this myLot-world?' You might say that He never "called Himself" the Son of man either (unless 'speaking of Himself in the third-person' was what He was actually doing, which I don't think I ever rehd it as ... I rehd it like he was talking about ANY Son of ANY man). & I don't think even God knows the future (as the name He gave Moses to give to the people means "I Am as I Am" or "I Will Be as I Will Be" ... so He kinda knows the future, but only the one in which He already is; if we choose a future that He has not chosen, we have to choose our way back into it somehow. (As Jesus Christ made-possible/proved for us, it IS possible to choose our way back.)
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
26 Aug 12
It was the editors and translators of the Bible (in English and in other languages) who apparently chose to distinguish 'son of man' from 'Son of Man' by using capital letters (there are no capital letters in Ancient Greek or in Hebrew (or Aramaic, which is what is generally supposed that Jesus spoke - but see here: http://www.godward.org/Hebrew%20Roots/did%20jesus%20speak%20hebrew.htm for an interesting theory) or in any of the languages which were current at the time. 'The son of a man' means something very different in English to 'The Son of Man'. All of us could be described as 'Sons of Man' even, in a figurative sense, females. If you de-capitalise and add an indefinite article (which also doesn't exist in Greek or Hebrew), you have a statement which, effectively, denies the Virgin Birth myth ... something to ponder on, perhaps. I agree that the name that God gave to Moses was not really a name at all but a statement of 'being' or 'existence'. Why, anyway, are we so insistent that God should have a 'name' at all? I think it's a "Man" thing in a way - a quirk of being human (perhaps because we have language) that we are impelled to 'name' and 'define' things. I also believe that, from God's point of view, there is no 'past', 'present' or 'future' as we see them and that it is a concept which we are congentitally unable to comprehend. A very interesting book which attempts to explain this concept by allegory is "Flatland: A romance of many dimensions" by Edwin A. Abbott, published in 1884: http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~banchoff/Flatland/ You may or may not have come across it. In the interim (since you began this discussion), I have learned something new about you, by the way - that you suffered a motor accident and that, as a result, you are probably not quite the same as you were before. Knowing that, it seems to me, brings me no closer to saying WHO you are, however. "Who do you say that I am?" is just as much an enigma and, at present, unanswerable (as it applies to "Mythociate") as it was when I first responded to this discussion. Saying WHO someone is is not the same as saying WHAT they are (and the two are very often confused). To say that Jesus is 'the Son of God' or 'a son of [a] man' or to say that God's 'name'/description of Himself is "I AM what I AM" does not really address the question of WHO that person is!
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
31 Aug 12
What is "Who" anyway? 'Man' (which Jesus is 'said to have been referring to Himself' (which I don't think ever happened ... unless He is "a liar"---what He said He was if He were to speak for Himself) as 'the Son of') is really an abbreviation of 'Human,' which comes from the ancient language (I don't remember which) meaning 'sentient being of mud.' Saying 'Who' instead of 'What' is like adding "-an" to a material-word in order to imply 'a sentient-being constructed of the matter.' When someone asks "Who am I?" is it more a question similar to 'What material (physical, mental AND spiritual) am I made of?' (while asking "What am I?" is mostly about the physical aspect). 'Who' is sort of 'what you come to me to find & what you expect me to do when you leave.'
@freqspaz (220)
• United States
11 Aug 12
My ultimate question is "What is Happiness?" I ask this because so many people fake through their lives now, smiling because they have to and laughing at things that aren't even funny but society deems that they need to be smiled at. I was just thinking about this last night, "Am I happy?" and honestly I couldn't answer fully. There are lots of 'buts' for both sides of yes and no. I have regrets and there are things I want to fix right now, but I can't. I am happy enough to keep living from day to day, but I not so much that I feel like I have a lot to live for. Yet when I am asked how I'm doing or if my life is okay, I am not lying when I say fine or good. Great question!
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
25 Aug 12
"The nature of a body at rest is to remain at rest; the nature of a body in motion is to remain in motion." Happiness is when you are satisfied with being where your nature is taking/leaving you.