What Real-Life Lesson Do You Learn from Jesus Christ?
@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
August 15, 2012 3:19pm CST
Oh sure, there's the 'forgiveness/grace' & the 'patience' etc.; but the lesson-in-living: if you're right, and 'everyone else' is wrong-but-living-happily; shut up!
Jesus Christ was a menace to society---I mean sure, the 'society' was wrong; but He would not have suffered if He had just 'shut up!'
You remember His whole 'clearing the temple'-bit, right? ("My Father's temple should be a house-of-prayer, but you have made it a den-of-thieves!" ... turning over the sales-men's tables, running out the hookers, etc.) Well, He could have just ignored them and/or announced to everyone that the things they were buying could not "save" them (in fact, that first one is what He had done all the times He'd seen the temple-market before).
But He chose exactly the wrong times to unleash His 'disagreement' at the Pharisees, scribes & other temple-leaders. The right time when He should've 'voiced His disagreement' was later explained by one of His disciples (talking about what to do when you disagree with a Christian brother: if you can't come to agreement, argue it among witnesses ... or something---haven't rehd it in a long time ... and then before the congregation, etc.)
But why did He never show us how to 'patiently get along with those "wrong" people until you could win them over to the bright side of the Force 
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
15 Aug 12
Because, we cannot "win them over" ourselves. It takes an act of the Holy Spirit to soften their hearts and draw them to God. No matter how kind and patient we are, they will not accept Christ without that. If we keep trying, we can turn others off completely and we will stand in judgement for that.
But why did He act in such a way Himself? I think it was because He knew their hearts and He had authority. I do believe that we can know hearts through the Holy Spirit and understand the same authority, but we are not in the position that Christ was.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
15 Aug 12
What do you mean by "authority"?
Do you mean the truth that each person has the final say over the decision of their heart, even if it is swayed by the hungers of the body (easily changed by bribes and the wish to 'be nice'). That--if you do not offer more than the opposing opinion offers--the common heart will (with their final 'authority') choose-against you & -for the opposing opinion?
@peavey (16936)
• United States
16 Aug 12
That's not the authority I meant, and although that's definitely valid, I don't see how it fits with the conversation. I meant that Jesus had (and has) the authority of God to do what was the right thing. We are short sighted and don't always know the right thing to do to get the desired results. Jesus was "in the know" as far as God was concerned and had the courage to do whatever He needed to do because of that. We can be that way, too, but maybe not to the same extent.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
16 Aug 12
Oh, I see! Like 'He knows the whole plan' rather than 'just our part in it.'
Although it gives us another lesson of Jesus' life: Stand on your faith, no matter what circumstances may happen.
It proves that Jesus WAS NOT God until He went through hell and rose again to ascend. Because--if He had known the whole plan--He wouldn't have asked, "Father! Why have you forsaken me?"
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
28 Sep 12
It's true I don't have the peace from God, but you shouldn't be sad about it. I know exactly why I don't have it ... because I'm too proud of what I can see & hear, and God's peace comes from hearing what can't be heard, seeing what can't be seen & knowing what can't be known.
(And Jesus? That's just the cover-story that teaches you the unknowable things.)
That wasn't the question though. The question was 'What real-life lesson do you learn from Jesus?'
@marcmm (1804)
• Malaysia
15 Aug 12
Shut Up? That is what GOD has done before after prophet Malachi. And see what happen, even the religious leader become corupted as Satan force grow stronger and stronger.
If Jesus don't come here to show the right way, it is better if He never come down to earth. He come to earth with purpose. It is within the GOD plan that Jesus must suffer in the hand of human and die on the cross.
About the right time to unleashed the disagreement, there are never a right time. The best time is when you see the wrongdoing on the spot and unleashed your anger.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
16 Aug 12
No, the best time is this (the way Jesus Himself said it, when people were asking him how things ought to be ... I don't know why I thought it was 'one of His disciples'):
"“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."
But maybe 'wrongdoing against the entire brotherhood' (duping the community into thinking that 'buying things' will "save" you) is different than 'against oneself.'
And Jesus didn't 'let all his brothers-&-sisters be to Him as Gentiles and tax-collectors' because they were His sheep being led to the slaughter by His 'Enemy' (man---who loves only himself ... that is what Satan is, not some goateed pitch-forker with horns 
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)@marcmm (1804)
• Malaysia
16 Aug 12
Jesus has been patience all this while. Anything people said against Him he accept. People drove Him out, he accept and just walk away. People talk about Him, he just answer them back with parables and with polite manners.
Matthew Chapter 12:32; Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
For Jesus, anything against Holy Spirit and GOD is not acceptable and that is why He shows his wrath against those outside the temple.
@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
24 Aug 12
"But why did He never show us how to 'patiently get along with those "wrong" people until you could win them over to the bright side of the Force ?'"
I hope I can give you a good answer but I think that you have read the bible more than I have. Hope you'll find the answer to your question.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
25 Aug 12
Thank you, but I don't think the Bible tells us 'why' other than 'that's just how it happened.'
@favouredmost (256)
• Kenya
17 Aug 12
There are things in this life that we will never understand. Jesus demonstrated different personalities dealing with different situations. There was time to turn the other cheek and time to take by force what belonged to him. Yes if you read the bible thoroughly you will understand his great compassion that he left everything in heaven to come to be beaten, humiliated, spat on, betrayed among so many other things for our sins and when he was finally crucified everything that we did or will do is forgiven, simply!.As much as you love your mother or father, would you agree to die for them?
@edsonluck (11)
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16 Aug 12
Jesus is not just an mere flesh who came on earth. He is completely a divine being in a human form. His coming to earth serves the greatest purpose and that is to save everyone that is lost. The Bible is a complete narrative of God's love. This is where we learn all the lessons we needed in living a heavenly life on earth.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
17 Aug 12
If He was not just mere flesh, then how can He serve as a sacrifice for we who are?
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
15 Aug 12
He taught us to lead by example. What does His example lead you to do? How does is example lead you to do that?
@Fulltank (2882)
• Philippines
16 Aug 12
Love thy Enemy. I think this is one of the greatest lessons that we should learned from Jesus. Its very easy to love someone who you never knew but loving an enemy is I think very hard for us to do. You learn to show love to the needy people, to the needy ones, but its very hard to show genuine love to your enemies.
Who amongst us had said I forgive you and I love you to someone who had done a gruesome things on us. Would you follow Jesus leads when He says "Forgive them Father for they no not know what they do".
@god_is_good (683)
• Philippines
15 Aug 12
We surely have our own views and some good things we can suggests. I feel what you've felt because I had much more questions before. However, when I opened up my mind, I come to know a lot of things. I learned that my thoughts are not God's thoughts; my ways are not God's ways; my plans are many but it is God's will that prevails. I thought I had better ideas and "what would have been" suggestions but it is just my own and not of God. Now, I just let go and let God.
@purenergy (25)
• Philippines
16 Aug 12
a man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (matthew 4:4). truly God is everything we have not only for ourselves but for every problem that we face each day in our life. A true lesson from our lord Jesus Christ always come from the bible, he teacheth us always the true value of christianity but one thing that our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ concerns with was our personal relationship with him. If we believe him, repent from our sins that we cannot save by our own self, and receive him from our heart as stated from (Romans 10:9) no one can separates us from him and surely he saves us and as he was said that as many as received him to them gave he power to become the sons of God, we can go to heaven because that will result to salvation.
