Banning the use of plastic cellophanes is not a good option.
By Danzylop
@Danzylop (1120)
Philippines
September 23, 2012 7:41am CST
In the philippines, flood is every where. Even if there is no typhoon warning, we still encounter flood. The authorities believe that improper disposal of garbages causes this and is now working on banning the use of plastic cellophane.
I just want to share my thought on this. The problem here is not the cellophane that clogged the water ways. You find cellophane now. If they ban it, its true, they would never find them clogging the water ways anymore, not the plastic anymore. Think of something else. A bag made of something biodegradable, not a bad idea.
They are now thinking of making biodegradble cellophanes. Is this something to ease the problem on flood? Think twice. Assuming they are good at banning plastic, I am sure it is still the same thing. People will still keep throwing them away. They are not teaching them.
10 responses
@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
23 Sep 12
The notion of banning cellophane is just the latest attempt to correct a problem that society started and companies were more than happy to contribute to; it's like putting a band-aid on an amputation. The problem with all of these things, too much trash, landfills getting overloaded can be attributed to the same thing; we live in a disposable world, and that is the problem. Something that is disposable seems convenient to the consumer, and manufacturers are eager to make disposable containers because they are use once and destroy, so they are a constant source of income. Every container that we use is designed to be trashed, such as plastic bottles that contain sodas and water and such. Like you said, people will continue to throw things (like cellophane) away in an irresponsible manner because we are not teaching them, not modifying the behavior.
I don't know how old you are, but when I was a child, you did not buy soda in any type of a disposable plastic bottle. All soda was either in a glass container or a metal can. The glass bottles required a deposit on the bottle so that the purchaser would return the bottle to get the money back. A 16oz soda used to cost 35 cents, plus 10 cents deposit on the bottle. So you paid 45 cents when you bought it, but got 10 back when you returned the bottle to a store. Even if you tossed out the cap, it was made of metal, so it would eventually rust and disappear. Sure some people would still toss the bottles out, but kids would always pick them up off the sides of roads because they were worth money. Bottles were mostly returned and recycled, no contribution to landfills, behavior was to re-use, not make refuse.
Now for convenience everything is disposable, and that trash needs to go somewhere. If someone tosses the plastic out of the car, you have to either have volunteers or pay someone to remove the unsightly mess as there is no incentive to collect the bottle because it is worthless. Behavior now is to make refuse, not re-use.
The move to making more things disposable may in fact enhance convenience in one area, but it is obviously creating problems in several others, and is not good for our environment. You can ban things all you want, but until you educate and modify the behavior behind it, it will continue, just like you said.
@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
30 Sep 12
I don't think that humans become useless without convenience, it simply changes the roles that people play. For example, in the years when all soda came in either returnable glass bottles or recyclable cans, manufacturers of those products were busy and more people were employed in those occupations. You also had more people employed in the factories that were responsible for cleaning and refurbishing the glass bottle so it could be re-filled. Also bottles that did not meet the criteria for cleaning could be broken, ground up and recycled into new glass bottles with less waste. Disposable plastic bottles eliminate factories and jobs for cleaning because plastic bottles are not reused as glass bottles are, in fact most of them aren't even recycled into bottles, they are recycled into other plastic products, and their percentage of usable product versus waste is not as efficient as glass.
So humans from 1912 are no more or less useful as people from 2012, they just had different examples of convenience.
@asliah (11137)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
hi,
yes indeed, that flood is everywhere now a days because of clogged of the water ways,plastic is the number one why its clogged it so i am agreed on banning at plastics because its really hard to dissolve,unlike the paper,once they throw it,the paper is more easier to dissolve in the water.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
30 Sep 12
Most people know how destructive plastic bags are and they simply do not care.
To me, it's up to local councils to step up their rubbish retrieval programs and then for there to be incentives offered for people to dispose of plastics correctly.
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@tipay26 (867)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
It is disgusting to see our seas and rivers full of plastic bags every time the tide gets high.If you saw manila bay when there's a storm you can see garbage every where and it's not good to see.If they will ban the use of plastic bags then it's a good idea too but there will be some problems some of the manufacturers of plastic bags will lose their jobs and that there will be more famined families because they ban plastic bags they will no longer produce more and as a result there will be no jobs at all.
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@redvakaurvaki (4217)
• Indonesia
24 Sep 12
agree, banning the use of plastic cellophanes won't solve the problem. the root of the problem is people less of caring the environment. if everyone care with environment, they wouldn't throw trash anywhere, will plant more trees, etc and later we could fix the situation.biodegrable plastic is now popular, but it doesn't give direct impact with situation
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@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
23 Sep 12
I agree with you. The local authorities can ban every kind of packaging product but the floods will remain because Metro Manila is below sea level. The rising levels of the sea waters is also one of the signs of climate changes. On top of it all is the seeming irresponsibility of people in throwing their trash. However, the government also has to do something about speeding up the regular garbage collection in communities. It is embarrassing how pictures of the flooded waters in Metro Manila showed tons of floating garbage which could have been easily controlled with waste segregation. However, people are sometimes too lazy to do proper waste management since it is indeed easier to throw trash where it is most convenient for them to do so. we have never learned from past experience. After Ondoy, many vowed to be responsible with garbage but habagat was proof that nothing concrete was ever done. Banning plastic bans is not the solution but responsibility.
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@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
That the same thing to happen in the future even if you ban plastics. Even if you ban something in favor for another alternative, chances are, the people will never be disciplined. I really get irritated to see someone throw even a small piece of plastic such as a candy packaging. I wonder what kind of government program would best resolve the issue and teach Filipinos about proper disposal. A stricter law? What about imprisonment plus fine?
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
23 Sep 12
i believe otherwise. the banning of the use of plastic bags or anything plastic is a good idea. it is a stepping stone. it would minimize the amount of plastic used which are non-biodegradable and harmful. imagine tons of tons of non-biodegradable material minimized, and i hoped diminished in the future, making it easier for the garbage to be processed.
while you say that the banning of plastic bags is not the problem, and it is the attitude and discipline of Filipinos that has to be given attention, i believe that eliminating both these causes will work best for the problem.
i go for this option.

@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
Hi ate bingskee,
Ate, if they will ban the use of plastic then, it is the same as thinking of something alternative. For this case they think of using biodegradable ones such as strong bags made of thick paper. Population everywhere is growing and I wonder how much paper do we need to compensate with the demand. Paper is made out of tree right? so I negatively think that it would help in anyway the problems with flood and to the environment.
One more thing, banning it is not feasible. Really.
I still believe that discipline is the ultimate solution.
@adnileb (5287)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
You are right. Even though they ban the use of cellophane, if people are undisciplined, they will throw anything away on the street.
A small candy wrapper if thrown by many will cause clogging too. They should teach the people on proper waste disposal, give them some penalties if really needed. Flood is becoming worst every year, like last year, the flood in our area was up to my knees and last strong typhoon it was almost on my butt.
Can’t imagine up to where it will be next year.




@adnileb (5287)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
How blind is our government?
I don't know when are they planning to do something about the flood thing everywhere. Aren't their homes affected?
Lot of people are undisciplined when it comes to waste disposal and the government should do something about this as soon as possible.


@redvakaurvaki (4217)
• Indonesia
24 Sep 12
not only on your current place, in my place, flood also getting worse and worse. they ask solution from the governor but never change attitude of being undisciplined and throw their trash near the river. I agree that they should teach how to manage their garbage or waste disposal

@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
Hi edsss17!
In the short run, paper bags is a good substitute provided people use it multiple times and that they dispose it properly.
In my own opinion, if you look at the substitute and think for its effects in the long run, you will see that it could never be as good as it seems at the moment.
The Philippines alone, we are more than a hundred million with almost 2% growth rate annually, cannot cater the need say after ten years. Paper bags are made out of trees and growing them takes years and decades.
