No To Cybercrime Law?
By magtibaygom
@magtibaygom (4858)
Philippines
October 2, 2012 3:57am CST
I saw this posted by a friend in Facebook, "No To Cybercrime Law!".
I have heard about this earlier before but I did not pay attention since I was too busy with other things in life. But just recently, my attention got caught with this topic since this is about our Internet activities, and I do a lot of deals online, so I think I should really pay attention to this.
Anybody here who is familiar with this, can you share us some overview or details how does it work? I mean, the proposed law. What is it all about? 
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11 responses
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
read more about this at http://menardconnect.com/2012/09/18/full-text-of-ra-10175-philippines-cybercrime-prevention-act-of-2012/ ( not referral link dear admin) read it first then tell me how you think of this.
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@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Thanks. I have checked on the page and I was a bit shocked, the page is quite too long for a person to read especially those of us who have very limited time reading online. But I will check on that again maybe tonight when I am finished minding my business. Thanks for sharing. 
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
You must be aware of it, friend. Because all of us using the internet will be affected. This is not because we are doing crimes or anything but we being prosecuted without any crimes being committed...
Lets all protest and cry our grievance with that law which is suppressing our freedom to live freely. We are living in a democratic country and we must be free to express what is good and what is wrong unless we don't harm anyone...
The implementation of the said law is unfair. Because they can prosecute anyone with the evidence they see only on the internet and that is enough for them to put us in jail...
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Since the Law signed by the President, this will transfer to the supreme court to give way any petition and clarify the credibility of the said law.
Since the supreme court denied all the petition being submitted by different groups and organization. We can't do about to stop the enforcement of the said law.
What we can do for now is to unite with other internet users to petition the government via internet and any means of communication. So, that the supreme court know about that the public cried out grievances for this law.
I don't know why the supreme court denied those petition? This might be the work of Malacaniang, to block the petition.
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
16 Jan 13
Hey guys, I just noticed, after this said law was taken in effect, it is now hard to download songs from sites that we used to download songs from. Even big sites, file sharing sites, like 4shared.com. I am wondering if this is a part of that said anti-cyber crime law implementation?
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
We would like to know if there is still a chance for us to trash this stupid law? You know, I am not a lawyer so I am not quite familiar how things are done in the Congress and the Senate. Is there any possible way the passing of this can be averted?
@rsa101 (37952)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Not familiar with its entirety yet but what is making this law controversial is because of the inserted provision about online libel which is quite a bit harsh since our normal libel suit penalizes only 4 years imprisonment but online libel is 12 years. No one is accepting who is responsible for inserting this provision before it was passed as a law. SC is even apprehensive in issuing TRO on this until they have reviewed everything in it.
So effective today Oct. 3 the law is already in effect and many are afraid this would curtail the many freedoms we enjoy online. But I think the law itself is sought to protect us innocent netizens and not to really stop anyone from doing their thing on the net. I believe that this law is for the protection for us against the online scammers, hackers that preys on the net and not the ordinary surfing people that are just enjoying it and using it.
@rsa101 (37952)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
So far the government has not yet done anything to implement the law. DOJ is starting to form a group to enact the law but to this day no one has yet experienced anything and I think they could not yet do that since the government is not yet equipped and they are just doing the basic training on this one. The hackers can do better than the government agencies involve since they are the one able to put down a government site than the government putting them down. So I do not believe that even the law is officially running right now they are not yet able to really ran against the cybercriminals yet to the full extent of the law.
I think those comments you saw in the FB were just to mock the law and exaggerate things up.
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
But I have already seen comments on our government made by some friends and they were edited and blocked by Facebook!
That's not acceptable especially in countries like ours since we are a democratic country. The freedom of expression is the only power we have as citizens and the government should not take this from us.
If you can remember, the government of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt was brought down to democracy because of Facebook interactions between users, and world salutes them for doing so. They are becoming more democratic. Then why, in our case, as a nation, why are we going the opposite direction?
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
For your all understanding here you can read the whole copy of Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012. http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2707356.aspx?p=1#2_23990072
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I have been reading some parts of it, not only it's conflicting to our 1987 constitution bill of rights, but also conflicting UN law for human rights as well. looks like we were caught off guard. it seems that corruption has taken its toll and they are now preventing us from speaking our right through out the net. though i thought it was supposed to be against hackers and bullies, i think this should be restudied again. otherwise, none will get my vote this 2013.
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I just hope our government have to study it first all over again and give an ear
to us who are against with some article on the law.
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I have read the overview of the law a minute ago. It sucks! You know, it seems, the government is always trying to make ways how they can control the people and not go against them.
Also, it seems, these senators, with their lack of knowledge of the cyberspace, their lack of knowledge about the cyber culture, are trying to make a law about these things they themselves are not familiar with.
If ever there's a law about cyber crime, they should be created by the people, the netizens, who understand our new culture that thrives in cyebrspace.
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I have heard ambot this too but never paid attention too because what's new in this country? But just now,i saw a post on facebook too about this and that you can even get jailed for 12 years for expressing yourself online? What the hackers did to the government websites, I think they deserve it..so annoying.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
well it is not just for the hackers cherish, it is for almost everyone who goes online. if you say something that might get other people offended you can be sued for a libel case.. which is unjust.
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Yeah that is why I think what the hackers did was actually good lol because how could the government do something like that when everyone already knows that if you say something wrong about someone whether online or personally, you can get sued etc. but scoffing yourself online by saying what you think about the system, you can get sued? And what is so stupid is even liking a page that is against the system, you can also get sued? Isn't that too much? Everyone in the world think this is too much and actually stupid. This is even worse than the most conservative countries in the world...
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
2 Oct 12
yes what your friend said is exactly right and cyberlaw has to allow only certain things not all things which we feel are correct
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
I understand that in other countries, they also have anti cyber crime laws. But theirs, the provisions and penalties are tamer compared to ours here in the Philippines. Ours is too harsh, which seems like they are curtailing our freedom of speech.
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
2 Oct 12
You will find more details, including a link to the Act, in my response to this discussion: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2706460.aspx
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello magtibaygom, I've been reading this law and i find it a bit alarming. not to mention chiz made a too late filling of changing some parts of the bill regarding libel, i think none of this candidates will ever get a chance to get my vote next year. just like the 2010 elections i didn't vote to any of these politicians except the president and Vice president.
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
These old guys, not to say "internet illiterates", are trying to make a law about things they themselves are not familiar with. Shame to them! 
@gaiza12 (4884)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I am an internet user but unfortunately also don't know what this law contains and why it was approved for whatever reasons there is that this has to be passed. I would also like to know what this law is about and I don't want to just stick to my opinion of disagreeing to it if I don't really know what this is about. I have read some of my friends post in facebook and mostly they are against it. They say we will lose our freedom of speech and privacy but that's just what they are saying. I hope someone here could explain this Law to us further.
@gaiza12 (4884)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Thanks for the information. Actually, after I have read so many post here about this law, I searched and read news about it, how it started, how it will effect us netizens and what the law contains. I am against it and really upset for there are so many effects this law will have on us internet users 
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Almost all countries have this kind of law which is being used by authorities to oversee and regulate Internet activities. There's a part of these laws that are good which are installed for our protection. The bad part of these, there are provisions in the law which harm our rights and freedom, like freedom of expression.
@carloscourtney (17)
• United States
3 Oct 12
well I am not really sure what this new law is, but I have heard of it. It seems to me that the government only wants to diminish our freedom little by little. A gradual decrease in our freedom, just small enough that it doesnt affect us immediately, but over time the list of freedoms being taken away will get larger and larger until we find ourselves in a totally different USA than the one we live in today.
