Let's see for example...
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
Philippines
October 2, 2012 7:44am CST
Some one hack a persons facebook account.
Let's 
say it's a main, then the hack account puts a lot of bashing to a certain politician. then that politician sues the person, but not the hacker who is anonymous, but the person who uses that facebook.
problem is, how can the user prove that his account was hack and use to malign the politician? not only that he would be under surveilance and then all of his files are confiscated and investigated. after years and years they found out that he's account was HACKED! and he goes free?
what about the hacker that did it?
there could be a loop hole in this so called CyberCrime law, this could be one of them...
any example of a loophole you could imagine if this law is passed?
http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/republic-act-no-10175-–-cybercrime-prevention-act-of-2012
say it's a main, then the hack account puts a lot of bashing to a certain politician. then that politician sues the person, but not the hacker who is anonymous, but the person who uses that facebook.
problem is, how can the user prove that his account was hack and use to malign the politician? not only that he would be under surveilance and then all of his files are confiscated and investigated. after years and years they found out that he's account was HACKED! and he goes free?
what about the hacker that did it?
there could be a loop hole in this so called CyberCrime law, this could be one of them...
any example of a loophole you could imagine if this law is passed?
http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/republic-act-no-10175-–-cybercrime-prevention-act-of-20123 people like this
12 responses
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
hi lk,
Okies no more pc and net connection
Let's go back using ballpen and paper only 
this law is INJUSTICE
this law is INJUSTICE 1 person likes this
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Hello bhabycatch, there's nothing wrong with using personal computer and internet. as long as we are not bashing or hating nor accusing some one which we know as innocent. nothing bad using written utensils because it's been use before the rise of internet medium. the law can be injustice but it will give justice to cyber bully victims
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
oh yeah like the senator who experienced the cyber bullying
@gaiza12 (4884)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
They maybe able to hire experts to investigate on the issue of the account being hacked, I don't know what they are really gonna do, but for sure they will find a way. But, what if, the hackers attack so many users, will they be investigating all of it at the same time and pay millions to these experts just to find the truth behind it? I was thinking, why do they have to put so much of their time with these kind of things instead of thinking of some ways to improve our country. To improve the education in our country to be exact. I just really don't get why they have to be so busy with getting our freedom to speech and privacy when there are so much more to do aside from this. So fed up actually 
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@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello Gaiza, there should be just initiative or executive order from the President going against cyber bullies instead of creating a law that would affect freedom of expression against. Richard Gordon was the only senator then that had some plans for the teachers, just him and no one else has that plan for the people.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
4 Oct 12
yep that would be a very sticky legal battle, Internet laws are not the same in every country. It is really hard. It is hard to find a hacker.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Hello winterose, I wonder what if the hacker is in another country and can clean himself out of the fb or any blog that he or she hacked? it won't be much good because the cyber crime law cannot scope people who are doing damage who lives outside teh philippines.
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@leateagee (3667)
• China
2 Oct 12
The internet is a very wide area to be followed through. I don't think this law will ever be passed. Politicians just need to be very careful.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello leateagee, How can you tell when freedom of expression against the Government in China is not even allowed? not to mention censored? the fact that it's a hot topic now for Filipinos was due to the fact this law will be enact tomorrow and the Restraining Order appeal did was not approve by the supreme court. please do read other discussions about this issue because our president here just signed it.
@leateagee (3667)
• China
2 Oct 12
Really? So sorry I didn't read thoroughly. You are right, actually we can't even use youtube now because it was blocked a few years ago because Tibet protesters have posted some videos against the government. Actually now, it's not just youtube but anything not supported by the government.
Wow! So what would happen now? Are we still a democratic country? Was this a long time issue already? If I am not mistaken, it started with Sen. Sotto's plagiarism. Why so quick? Can't they just concentrate in improving the education of the youth and producing more jobs?
@jeanneyvonne (5500)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
I think that censoring and cyber hunting are two different activities. I think that the Chinese netizens get their internet only after the Chinese government scanned it. Besides, the Chinese government has the money to do it. Perhaps, they have an entire ministry to do it.I imagined that all opposing sites are already blocked even beofre the Chinese netizens get their info.
@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Too much to read...
I'm too lazy,
Will you read it for me please 
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello Jaiho2009, Same here since the other mylotters posted this bill but today i decided to read a few lines about it and it's really bothering me. Though i did think it was much to read, but i had to just like any abiding citizen, much complicated i guess to the mylot guidelines hehehe
Jaiho2009, Same here since the other mylotters posted this bill but today i decided to read a few lines about it and it's really bothering me. Though i did think it was much to read, but i had to just like any abiding citizen, much complicated i guess to the mylot guidelines hehehe
@bubuth (1815)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Starting tomorrow I feel that I will be afraid to use computer and some other social network sites because I don't know if the things that I done in internet is against in Cyber Crime Law or not. Because i'm just like the other internet user. I like posting comments and posting some photo on my social network accounts then because of that I feel that I don't have freedom to use it anymore.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello bubuth, the only voice that we have left is NOT TO VOTE to those who allowed this bill come to pass. And I am certain no matter how many times they talk, debate in the news tv i will not vote for them. and if even Richard Gordon Approves or agrees to this cybercrime prevention act law, i won't for him either. that's insane, i think facebook is under US and not Philippine territory, they don't have the right to spy on us through facebook.
@rsa101 (40977)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Actually the law is already running effective today if I am not wrong about it. The request to issue a TRO did not succeed yesterday. So as of today DOJ is starting to create a group that would start to enact this law.
I think the scenario you presented is just like a movie in a sense since i have seen movies like that already. You can start watching the online Cybergeddon which tackles exactly same plot of the story.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Hello Rsa101, I am telling this scenario because i don't trust the capability of the department that will handle the cyber crime problem. we all know how government officials and departments gets bribe. I still have trouble not saying anything in this issue, i don't want us to be forbidden of our right to speak
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
That would be very unfortunate for the owner of that Facebook account.
Such a stupid decision to draft up that law. The Philippines is a laughingstock, SOPA didn't even get passed, other more pressing issues are being pushed to the background because some politicians have very sensitive egos.
Frustrating.
I might use anagrams for Facebook status next time.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Hello joliefille, I don't know about the owner of facebook. they have problems too because of so many fake accounts in the site. i don't think having one billion members of face book are consist of legitimate users. if they delete the fake ones, they will know the real number of users out there
@jazel_juan (15745)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
True. there are so many creases and loops in this cyberlaw thingie. it is prudish like i have said.
for one, if your account was hacked and used to malign someone big or some institution and since it is your account you will be arrest...but then if them from the government are that GOOD they will of course know if it is hacked, tracing isp..tracing codes right? but then again how honest can they be in helping us? how would we know? with millions of users - true and false, how could they detect? 
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Hello Jazel_juan, they lack man power of experts spying on millions and millions of internet users. hackers who had been expert for years will adopt more into leaving and preventing from getting caught. I am still not that good when it comes to computers, other stuff like computer science and information technology seems strange to me still
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
As I read and understand their are many loophole with the law itself. The worse thing was there no specific scope. They give more power to the police and enforcement agencies to just arrest, search and seizure without any warrant.
Things is violation under the constitution where the law says: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizure, and no search warrant or warrant of arrest shall issue, except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge after examination under oath" under Article III, section 3, Bills of Right, of the constitution of the philippines.
This law is truly the advantage of the politician. You never say any cretinism to those politician who are doing illegal activities...
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Yup! That what the right thing to do now, friend. Because we can't do to stop that law being implemented.
The supreme court denied all the petition to review and have an argument to clarify something flaws about that bills.
I really irritated with Sen. Sotto,when I heard him interviewed by Arnold Clavio. He's reason inserting that law is so obvious not a mistake but put their to defend themselves to avoid criticism from the public.
As judge malcolm, said that there is no room for a politician with onion skin having a position in the government.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
Hello aerous, that is why they are not gonna get my vote again this 2013, they have buried themselves half under the sand for this mistake. not worth the tax money i think when they foolishly made a law that actually has too many flaws to boot. yeah, it's all advantage of the politician, that's just foul to me but am not gonna vote for them. we have rights in the internet.
we have rights in the internet. @jeanneyvonne (5500)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Personally,I think this law is very broad but also very weak. Even if politician sues teh true owner of the facebook account,he has to prove it. In the libel provision,he has to prove that the guy/hacker has malice.If he does,it can also be tracked is the facebook account was hacked. I don't know but there are forensic computer analysts in the states that can do this. Dunno if we have one, even in the government.
@mrsuniega (786)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
The law has many good and bad pervasive. Because there is a new legislation and will be controversial, all Pinoy are focusing on this new law. you're correct that can happen, that we do not know. My opinion is that Cybercrime Prevention Law should not be ousted rather they should revise it accordingly and listen to the views of majority.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Hello mrsuniega, they were fast to approve this law and yet he failed to create a law or resolution that will give beneficiaries to the people like the ones in Hacienda Luisita workers. this is just too much in this situation. they would even have dialogue, but they know that they will hear!
