Government - MILF peace Deal.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
Philippines
October 8, 2012 7:03am CST
Hello Lotters,
Would you believe it? it was aired first in CNN before they aired it in the Local channel?
It's been like 30 yrs since the internal conflict with the Government and this other Rebel group finally came to an agreement. most people thin it's good news because the media believes it's going to finally start peace between the groups.
But some believed 
there had been a lot of conditions before this agreement came to pass. the once called ARMM, now called BANGSAMORO entity. they refused to be called Pilipino Muslims as far as am concern.
some even ask if they can have passport just to go to this bangsamoro place.
what do you think?
there had been a lot of conditions before this agreement came to pass. the once called ARMM, now called BANGSAMORO entity. they refused to be called Pilipino Muslims as far as am concern.
some even ask if they can have passport just to go to this bangsamoro place.
what do you think?1 person likes this
8 responses
@pals101 (2003)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
I really don't get this group, what they really are fighting for. They don't have to get hostage and kill them all..
I just read the novel written by Gracia Burnham, a missionary couple who were kidnapped and held by this group. The title of the book is "IN THE PRESENCE OF MY ENEMIES". This is really an awakening book to all, if you read it then you will know what really is lacking in our government today.
@pals101 (2003)
• Philippines
11 Oct 12
OOppps.. sorry about that
Anyway, they really want peace. Then should all learn to respect each others cultures and differences. War is not the option, I really think creating their own BANGSANGMURO group is just temporary and cannot solve the issue.. if they don't learn to respect then there could be no peace at all..
Anyway, they really want peace. Then should all learn to respect each others cultures and differences. War is not the option, I really think creating their own BANGSANGMURO group is just temporary and cannot solve the issue.. if they don't learn to respect then there could be no peace at all..@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
Hello Pals101, I agree that you had them confused with the ABusayaff bandits, but they are all rebels all the same. I don't that should be a valid reason to have their own political entity since governments do change. I would never accept a bangsamoro as an identity but a filipino one because i was born that identity.
@Eppie2010 (509)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
I don't get this group either (also don't have the time to know what they're fighting for?) But I think you confused them with the Abu Sayaf? Which is (I think) is a different group altogether?
Anyway, I saw the documentary (National Geographic Channel?) about the Burnhams, it makes me sad to think that a Filipino was involved with their heartbreaking story. Hope it would not happen again. 
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
9 Oct 12
Must. I say this is the long awaited news to the peaceful solution of the conflicts of the philipino Muslims. Hopefully with this good news many of the philipino Muslims who have fled to our country for refuge would go back to their place of origin as their presence here have become a political issue everytime when there is an election.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
11 Oct 12
I am not aware that Malaysian prime minister was involved in the peace talk. The Filipino Muslims have been here since the 70s and some of them have become Malaysian citizens and married to locals. They are mostly suluks plus some yakans and bajaus. They are hard working people and quite successful in business. In their midst there are also troublemakers who are public nuisance. They smeared the names of the whole colony of refugees.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
11 Oct 12
Hello zandi458, thanks to your prime minister and some officials of the government who intervene and mediate in this peace process i hope they can have long stability of progress and end the wars. oh, my I didn't know filipino muslims went there bcause of the problem in the Philippines. HOW OUR MEDIA ISN"T TELLING US THIS?
@rsa101 (40976)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
As much as possible I would like to control my impression on this one since I am not fully aware what the contents of the agreement as of now. All I see are just speculations on what the true contents of the agreements are.
Well I guess if this will forge peace in Mindanao and would let Muslim brothers there happy with it why not. Mindanao has long stagnated from developing because of the insurgency in the area both from the separatist movement and the Communist rebels operating there. Plus the fact that there are many private armies from strong political families reigning there. Removing one problem could bolster development of that area in our country. Mindanao having one big island is very promising in terms of its natural resources and the fertility of its soil suitable for agriculture.
But if the agreement would contain something that our sovereignty over them would be affected then I guess I would be the first one to opposed for it. I think legal minds would study this carefully since we all know these rebel groups were aiming for total independence from our government which of course is unacceptable. But if they are willing to compromise that idea for peace it is worth the try.
@rsa101 (40976)
• Philippines
11 Oct 12
Well I guess all desperate measures would involve them to ally with someone or some groups to strengthen their ranks. I guess they were forced into forging alliances with outside supporters that can help with their cause. It cannot be avoided I guess.
For now, I think that our government would want to settle this issues down the table and not through armed conflict which causes more troubles than solution. I just hope that the amicable agreement would be both fair for the Muslim and other settlers who are not Muslim in the area they want to govern. I am not opposed if they are given autonomy where they can govern on their own terms. They can practice their cultural and traditions and have their own laws applicable to their faith. But separating from us is also not acceptable since I believe historically they are part of our country already.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
11 Oct 12
Hello Rsa101, 
maybe if they weren't supporting the ABusayaff bandits or terrorist coming from other muslim countries, maybe we would never have this problem in the first place. we should have a peace settlement in mindanao so that it can have a more productive approach and more supply to us here in Luzon.
maybe if they weren't supporting the ABusayaff bandits or terrorist coming from other muslim countries, maybe we would never have this problem in the first place. we should have a peace settlement in mindanao so that it can have a more productive approach and more supply to us here in Luzon. 
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
14 Oct 12
Another milestones of the government effort since the Bangsamoro people longing for their independence from the Philippines but on my understanding, even they have their own so called autonomy still they are under the Philippine government. So their budget are taken from the government itself. 
Most of the Muslims happy about this accomplishment but to those Muslims who have their own principles the agreement not beneficial for them. It means still there are wars happened in Mindanao soon.
Most of the Muslims happy about this accomplishment but to those Muslims who have their own principles the agreement not beneficial for them. It means still there are wars happened in Mindanao soon.@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
15 Oct 12
Hello julyteen, I hate these wars, if we can't stabilize mindanao, then there would be a problem with this kind of problem. this is a good start but lets all pray and hope there will be a good result after three years. we can't give up something good that started. i hope they will leave the struggle once the peace process is finalized
@penrockerchic (1903)
• Philippines
8 Oct 12
Hi there! I got to be honest. I don't watch local news anymore, and I think that you might be right regarding conditions that might have transpired while the agreement and negotiations were happening. Sometimes, I think that some of these peace agreement thing that's been happening for decades now, are just news and nothing more. I don't want to sound pessimistic and skeptic about it, but I think, there's really no substance into these so-called peace agreements and deals. Just saying.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
8 Oct 12
Hello penrockerchhic, It was first aired in CNN which totally surprised me. you know maybe they really like reporting news that are obviously about wars and all. but maybe this will put the country on a good map knowing that the President truly afters peace. it was still just a draft though I hope they can really finalize it. Have a nice day.
@penrockerchic (1903)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
Thanks for the info LetranKnight25. I guess you're right. CNN is usually much more into war news such as this. Nevertheless, it still sounds good to hear such great news even though it's just a draft. I was totally pessimistic about this earlier, but soon realized, that maybe, just maybe, there is really something there that could benefit us all.
@romzee (937)
• Philippines
9 Oct 12
I don't think this agreement will create a long lasting peace in the South. Just like the creation of ARMM, this BANGSAMORO entity will just became a failed experiment. Believe me, before all this talk come into conclusion, another group will split from the MILF to form another group that will eventually oppose this agreement. And then History repeat itself. I just hope that I will be proven wrong!
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
11 Oct 12
Hello romzee, I don't want b pessimistic now becuase the peace process was never really that easy to begin with. we need to have faith in the government as our president tries their very best to ensure that the people would never fear about wars ever again. we can't afford to rpeat history because too much damage has been done
@beamer88 (4259)
• Philippines
8 Oct 12
Honestly, I have never been keen on the creation of autonomous regions. For me, it's more divisive. I mean, instead of being just one nation of Filipinos, we now have groups wanting their own 'territories.' This new deal the government made with 'rebels' is really puzzling for me. It has never worked in the past. ARMM was created but peace wasn't still achieved. This I think will also be the case with the new BANGSAMORO. The goal of these rebels isn't really an autonomous region. They had been wanting a nation of their own, separate from the Republic.
@LetranKnight25 (33117)
• Philippines
8 Oct 12
Hello Beamer88, I have watch the interviews and reports that they no longer want to desire an independent nation. but merely a political entity, but what shocking to me was they actually have a transition committee that will write laws regarding the bangsamoro entity. would have been more respected if they weren't harboring terrorist elements from other countries.
I have watch the interviews and reports that they no longer want to desire an independent nation. but merely a political entity, but what shocking to me was they actually have a transition committee that will write laws regarding the bangsamoro entity. would have been more respected if they weren't harboring terrorist elements from other countries.
@lady1993 (27221)
• Philippines
25 Oct 12
Yeah, it was awesome.. But i guess i was not explained that well to us..even i don't get it entirely. The agreement isn't creating a new country, it's just like they have control over Mindanao, but they still have to ask approval from the President..
