got FIRED! Because of a Dislike in Facebook!!

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

Guess the nurses can file for a case of wrongful termrination or damages and the hospital deserved to be shamed.

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mariaperalta

@mariaperalta (19073)

• Mexico

9 Oct 12

what a world we live in.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Markleob,

I don't think so, they should show the performance records of these nurses, how come i didn't any report of that now? obviously they took the chance to firing them with the benefit of the cyber law. that's absurd, the law couldn't even bring down hackers in our country. hope those nurses could get a job soon.

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beamer88

@beamer88 (4259)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

I believe they have a very good chance of winning their case in the Labor courts. If this would be the grounds for terminating their employment, then it's a clear case of wrongful dismissal. What I still have to find out though is which supersedes which - the Cybercrime law or our Labor laws.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

14 Oct 12

Hello beamer88, The Cyberlaw itself is very much unclear as to how they will justify, the way they fire the nurses. I don't know right now if how the justice system works right now they demanded the hospital to give them certificate of employment so that they can apply elsewhere.

Canellita

@Canellita (12029)

• United States

13 Oct 12

People are told over and over to keep their work life separate from Facebook and they keep doing things they shouldn't. What the doctor did was inappropriate and the nurses participated.

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Canellita

@Canellita (12029)

• United States

18 Oct 12

LetranKnight, it is completely fair from the hospital's point of view since they expect their employees to behave in a professional manner. Believe me, a private group wouldn't have changed anything.

@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello

Canellita, I don't know much since i got it from the media. but the first impression was it was kinda unfair that they fire the staff because of the cybercrime law. maybe if they have a private group because the doctors fb wall may have been open to all those who can see it.

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

15 Oct 12

Well, not many people can control their urge to spread something they think is safe to spread. While the power to share has its own good qualities, people w should also practice some restraint when it comes to their online social life. It's easy to fall in a false sense of freedom and security. Then being bitten by cruel reality when they are not online anymore.

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mimiang

@mimiang (3760)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

For me, they have done injustice to the nurses who liked the post in the facebook. That is repressing the right to express and we are in a democratic country.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

14 Oct 12

Hello mimiang, yeah and it's obviously not fair since they are doing their work there at their best. they didn't even say anything except liking some facebook comment, that's not fair people would really didn't say much about the hospital and it's management except for one doctor who was very honest with herself

Charlene Sally C.

@PointlessQuestions (15397)

• United States

8 Oct 12

Thatsjust ridiculous. If they were in the US they could take that to court for unlawful termination. Freedom of speech on Facebook should never be taken that seriously unless they made threats or whatever.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

14 Oct 12

Hello PointlessQuestions, I think that's one of the factors of the cyber crime but some how i think it was unfair that they were not given proper trial for this. not to mention, the mayor and administrator supported the staff instead. they never made threats, that's the real sad part about this situation.

lopenag

@lopenag (12)

• Philippines

9 Oct 12

I don't think that anyone can just get fired by simply giving comments or dislikes in a certain blogs or posts. I still believe that there should always be a due process.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello lopenag,

at least if they are getting fired there should be due process to that. some how, their world were brought down simply because they lost a job because of facebook. i hope this also serves as a lesson to those who got fired, they should just put it in their blogs the frustration they have on the hospital but with out being notice.

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

lopenag. You are correct. In a blog or other sites, you can say anything you want because you can use a username and your email address will not be visible to other readers or guests of the blog. However, this was facebook. A social networking site where your picture, name and work is plastered and part of the header. Besides, some people affiliated with a company list their workplace. If you bash your own boss in facebook, pretty much everyone knows it even more likely if the said boss is also your friend. This is what some people don't realize when they post something work-related in facebook.

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@rafiholmes (2896)

• Malaysia

9 Oct 12

yeah..the due process of being fired!! lol

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@flowerchilde (12529)

• United States

9 Oct 12

It always shocks me when people try to shut down the freedom of others, especially freedom of thought and opinion!!! Good grief. I hope they can take this to law and get rulings in their favor.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello

Flowerchilde, They didn't even say anything on their disappointment to the hospital only the doctor complained about it. really sad they had to do this and now 16 are worried about their future. i don't know what happened to the ruling but i hope they at least get the certificate of their employment.

@rafiholmes (2896)

• Malaysia

9 Oct 12

NO..cant be..its just like telling your boss..i dont like to work here!! but u cant fire me! its just like being a person or a member of an NO TO RACISM group..and likes a photo in facebook of a Nazi killing all the jewss..something aint right u think?so this person remains in the Anti racism group..or should be moved to another skinheads group .lol

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anne25penn

@anne25penn (3305)

• Philippines

9 Oct 12

This is one the reasons why you have to be cautious with what you post on your Facebook page, especially if you have added your boss and people from work. As a general rule I don't comment nor press the like button if someone posts something about work. The act itself places you in the limelight where your boss can see what you guys are talking about. I guess this puts the new ecybercrime law into much distaste.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Anne25penn,

Yes we really have to be cautious in what ever we are liking in some statements or what ever we say in our work place. I still remember one time when a person ranted about her boss ends up getting fired. well, we are free to speak our minds but sometimes when we are in work we really have to understand that why our boss is too rude most of the time.

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

Anne, that's also my policy. Read but not comment unless necessary. Saves a lot of fuss. Besides, I can take back it because I haven't typed anything. Things can change and who knows, might be for the better.

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dorisday1971

@dorisday1971 (5657)

• Philippines

13 Oct 12

Yeah, I have seen that in the news. But the hospital clarified that those who were "fired" were contractuals and their contracts already ended. I hope that was true.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Dorisday,

how was that possible? then they must be lying if they are contractual. the mayor and administrator actually mentioned that it was the right thing to do? but for what cause? we didn't see their actual work performance. if they were contractual, then it should have been the statement of the government oficials.

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

15 Oct 12

Really? Then, the firing would be a non-issue.

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Artemeis

@artemeis (4194)

• China

9 Oct 12

I think the doctor involve and her 16 merry nurses are wrong in the first place when they resort to Facebook to resolve their issues with their workplace and its administrations. Facebook is simply a social networking tool and I have to question the appropriateness of posting company's shortcomings or most of all, matters which are private and confidential. As if there's not enough bureaucracy or established protocols or proper procedures for one to voice out one's grievances, using Facebook is simply inappropriate and certainly flout the basic rule of the company's confidentiality. So along with the doctor, I am sorry to say that they deserve what they got for their impropriety.

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Artemeis

@artemeis (4194)

• China

19 Oct 12

As far as Asia is concern, I think every one has to the right to speak but not total freedom of speech, where one will not be remanded or suffer legal consequences when it is found "inappropriate" as in this case here. I stand to be corrected but I believe Philippines does not have "total" freedom of speech like America which is the very reason the hospital in question could do such a thing to the doctor and nurses involved. Also, they bind by the hospital's legal contract and not the government of your country. So, I believe this is the grey area as far as the law and rights to freedom of speech is concern. Hope you get what I mean here.

@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Artemeis,

I disagree, maybe they have aired their problems to the hospital but no one listened to them. so, they had no choice but to air it in facebook. they have the right for freedom and speech, and what's worse base on the report, the 16 nurses didn't even say anything not even a side comment. this is the country where right of speech is not censored nor shut off.

mspitot

@mspitot (3824)

• Philippines

15 Oct 12

That is below the belt LK. Since they have been fired,they can share their story so at least people would know the real story behind their loss of job. That is so unprofessional for those who fired them.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

19 Oct 12

Hellll mspitot, that's the first impression that i had was it was unfair but because media has this role for making the news sensationalized, i feel that the one reported isn't complete. because it feels like siding with the nurse totally and not getting the side of the management completely to say their views. but the last time they said that there are contractual and contract has ended.

mspitot

@mspitot (3824)

• Philippines

22 Oct 12

Hmm.....they have to clear that or the people will have a bad connotation of the management of that hospital.

bhabycatch013

@bhabycatch013 (9150)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

hi LK, So this is how the cyber crime law works? All I can say is that is so unfair *throwing tomatoes* happy mylotting

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@jaiho2009 (39142)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

not tomatoes.. DURIAN

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bhabycatch013

@bhabycatch013 (9150)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

coconuts

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

14 Oct 12

Hello bhabycatch, I remember one time where an employee was ranting every day about her boss and saying bad things about him. but she didn't realize that her boss is also on facebook, and then he said he was disappointed and had her fired. unlike this 16 nurses, they only disliked what the slow and unfair practices of the hospital.

@rafiholmes (2896)

• Malaysia

9 Oct 12

just like i hate eating the food in this restaurant..but still goes there everyday to eat..

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Rafiholmes,

I don't know if you knew the whole situation but some how i think bad work performance is for me the real basis of firing some one. this act simply shows that even if your the best if you did something they do, your gone. how can be a bad work ethics when it's only in facebook and not the work environment itself. maybe if they put back the suspended cybercrime law, it would take effect.

@rafiholmes (2896)

• Malaysia

9 Oct 12

typo meaning that the nurses

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vidhyaprakash_2

@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)

• India

9 Oct 12

LK, sad to hear about this, really it is a great shocking news. I wonder why the hospital admin did this unfair to the nurses for this silly reason, hope their soul will RIP and the hospital admins are deserved for the punishment

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello vidhyaprakash,

I don't know what is the truth actually, of course it can something to destroy the hospitals reputation but you know how the media likes to make exaggerating. i hope they would give a follow up review on this one because i find it hard convincing which one is telling the truth.

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@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

The hospital might have a good reason for firing these people -it's basically bad publicity and morale for them. If it is their policy to fire such people who cannot abide by their rules, it's their discretion to fire them as the management who runs the hospital. If they cannot work there or agree with the management, it's the doctor and nurses' problem.

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Thoroughrob

@Thoroughrob (11742)

• United States

9 Oct 12

I do understand the hospital would not like the fact the nurses are making the hospital look bad, but we are supposed to be able to express our opinion. This country is getting this way more and more.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

18 Oct 12

Hello Thoroughbob,

They didn't even say anything, they were just liking some one doctor who made some complaint about the hospital. these people are probably shocked that because of facebook like they would be careful now on what to like and share to the public. hard to believe America is going through that.

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@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

That is true. But use it at your own risk. Because there is someone out there who will disagree with you and argue about it. Freedom of expression is all right as long as no party is injured or put into into a corner. I am not sure if the said incident involves private or internal communication within an institution. If that leak out, that's a ground for a legal case. I don't know if the doctor and nurses will even entertain to file a case of wrongful termination.

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Jane

@jaiho2009 (39142)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

Wow...so it's working now?

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Jane

@jaiho2009 (39142)

• Philippines

8 Oct 12

Now..where are those against Martial Law

What's better then? The Martial LAW Or this Cybercrime Law

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

14 Oct 12

Hello Jaiho-sis, I am sorry though but both of them were not that if they are compared. luckily for my generation we really didn't have to experience that, though my mom would mentioned that martial law is obviously a quiet years, maybe am not in the right moment to judge even though i don't feel right agreeing that martial law was the right thing. anyways, they should just revised the law.

starsailover

@starsailover (7829)

• Mexico

14 Oct 12

Hi Letran Knight: I actually feel that this is too unfair. There's no reason for doing this. It was just their opinion. So instead of getting fire them for their honesty they should feel worried and try to find something to make the medical system better. Specially if there are serious and important reasons why this doctor post this comment and so many nurses agreed with him. There must be reason why they think that way. It's not healthy to kick off people from their post just because of their points of view. ALVARO

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

19 Oct 12

Hello starsailover, the management should have explained right in the face of the sixteen nurses that their performance is the reason whyy they lost their jobs but why does it have to be the mayor or the administrator doing this explanation? seems really absurd to me. i hope applicants will have to choose a better hospital and provide a better service for them. otherwise, with management like that any one can get fired

Ayeizsha

@gaiza12 (4884)

• Philippines

9 Oct 12

Where's this hospital so that I can apply!

On a serious note, I feel sorry for those nurses. But, maybe there is a hospital policy that they were unable to follow like it's not allowed to say something bad about the hospital since you are part of it or they are not allowed to support something that will put the hospital down or it's administration. It's unjust if they are fired for no reason at all, I do hope they were given a reason why they were fired.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

15 Oct 12

Hello Gaiza12,

hahaha I doubt you can apply for work there and get accepted because the rules and regulations. anyways, i don't know the history of this hospital but as for services mentioned by the doctor, it's not so good. the reason is some what vague and unacceptable to me unless they show evidences that they were legitimately fired.

@jeanneyvonne (5501)

• Philippines

10 Oct 12

I dunno but I think saying bad things about your employer pretty much gives you an instant pink slip. Employers hire because they want employees to work. Granted that they can talk and express their opinion, it's to their own risk of their employment. I think that the hospital will not fire them immediately if they don't have grounds, unless they want a legal headache on their way

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MANJET

@MANJET (84)

• Malaysia

15 Oct 12

I believe that people should be given the right to express their feelings and ideas. The doctor had not done wrong in criticizing the hospital if what he said has strong premises to support it. While the nurses also have the right to like comment by anyone and they should not be held liable to the statement as they are only giving a like to the statement by someone else. Perhaps the hospital think that by doing that would be able to protect the image and reputation of the hospital. However, they just backfired and worsen the issue.

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@LetranKnight25 (33121)

• Philippines

19 Oct 12

Hello manjet, they should have had dialogue with the staff and get views from them on how to make themselves look better. this was just a simple rant and like coming from facebook, it would be embarassing for me for example if i started looking for a job and realize that it's ridiculous being found by the interviewer that i got fired because of a simple like in facebook. i hope they do get a job with out asking how they lost their previous one.

Leonidisa Ricardo

@reaching4dstar (22)

• Cebu, Philippines

17 Oct 12

Those nurses were unduly terminated without just cause. Posting your 'LIKE" does not connote a crime and if it does (for the sake of an argument) are these nurse not deserving their due process in law? I meant I a taking into considerations that legally if it comes into a legal action these nurses are deserving to exercise their right for DUE PROCES. DUE PROCESS means in my humble opinion, that they just can not be dismissed without going through the process of investigation, hearing their sides giving them the chance to explain in writing or answer to whatever hospital rules and regulations that covers this and since there is no law yet that says it is a crime to post a "LIKE" in Facebook and I am pretty sure it is not in the hospital rules and regulation then I think the Hospital Management, the Mayor and its City Administrator are deserving to face legal actions from all those nurses.

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