Half of Filipino Catholics shunning church weddings

@romzee (937)
Philippines
October 11, 2012 6:38pm CST
More than half of Filipino Catholics have not gotten married in churches, according to a survey conducted by Radio Veritas and the main reason? Church weddings are deemed costly. CBCP described the results of the survey as “very alarming.” Sociology professor Bro. Clifford Sorita clarified that in the survey, civil marriage was not considered a marriage at all “because the precept is that you have to be married in a church.” Well, in my opinion the church must consider conducting regular mass wedding so those that can't afford will have a chance to have their church wedding. What can you say my fellow mylotters'?
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@rog0322 (2829)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
12 Oct 12
Hi, Let us get to the mathematics of it. The way I see it, the church charge only around PhP3000-5000 for a "specially" scheduled wedding and around half of that for regular ones. If the minister sees that one can hardly afford the price, then the wedding can go without the fee provided that the necessary documents (marriage license, pre-marriage couselling, banns, baptismal certificates, certificate of no marriage and other legal documents) are submitted. Preparing for these papers may cost around five thousand pesos depending on the circumstances. Now, the real "costly" items here are the wedding dress, the decorations, the photo and video coverage, the reception (venue, food, catering) and the extras that can hardly be counted as essential to a wedding, that can go as high as the sky is the limit. In the final analysis, it is not the church that asks for these excessive costs but a self-imposed burden by the wedding parties themselves. Why, I got married in a very simple church wedding, the marriage certificate, being NSO certified, is recognized here and abroad, with lots of money to spare on our very first day of being together. No video, no expensive wedding gowns, no excessive food, no fanfare, just the regular document processing fees which is equivalent to the cost of three lechons and a case of Fundador brandy.
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@namiya (1713)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
you are right. Fact is my son got married last year and when we scouted for possible church venue nearby there were some where married fees could be as low as Php1000 for a very simple wedding. Hence it is not the church fees that counts for excessive wedding expenses but the ceremonies and the style the party wants it to be. And there are also sponsored church mass weddings from time to time which are almost free they just need to coordinate with their parish offices.
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• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Thanks for sharing this info. Someone in my family is planning to get married and it will be helpful for them when they dedicated to tie the knot. I agree that having a church wedding will be more expensive since it involves a lot of miscellaneous activities and in extension, fees. Anyway, better to know these so one can budget accordingly.
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• Philippines
12 Oct 12
I totally agree with you Rog! When my husband and I got married in 2010, we only paid Php 2000 for the church fee.And we donated Php 2500 for the priest, who is also a good friend of mine.He refused to accept the money but I insisted. I told him that it was our gift for celebrating the mass for our (my husband and I ) wedding. In some religious sect, they are obliged to give tithes but they don't complain. That's why I wonder why lots of Catholic couples complain about meager church wedding fees while they have no qualms spending thousands of money for their wedding attires and flamboyant reception.
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@mrsuniega (786)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Catholic Church wedding is really costly. I think majority of Filipinos today are getting married to a civil wedding because of money wise. I think there is nothing wrong in civil wedding because still it's legal. For example my cousin is getting married this coming October 18 and they decided to get marry on civil, they prepare it just this June. I know it's a bit fast but they really considered their budget.
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• Philippines
12 Oct 12
That's a misconception.Like what Rog said, the real costly things are wedding attire,reception,photo and video coverage and so on. My cousin and her fiance had a simple Catholic church wedding and they spent less than 10,000 Php. Could you believe that?
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@romzee (937)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Well, I think most favor Civil wedding than church wedding because it is more convenient, not much preparation is needed, unlike in church you need a flower girl, best man,etc... you only need at least 2 sponsors that will serves also as witness to your wedding and on your reception you can only have two guest your sponsors and these means much more affordable on low budget.
@namiya (1713)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
i don't want to offend someone here, but i know of a case why civil wedding was preferred over a church wedding. It was not for financial reason but that civil wedding could be easily annulled once the marriage won't work which is not the case in a catholic church wedding. i do hope this is only a rare case.
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@rsa101 (37968)
• Philippines
14 Oct 12
Well reality bites and that is the common reason why they are not choosing to be solemnized under the church is because some churches charges quite high when a couple wants to be wedded on that certain church. I just hope that the church would realize this and would compromise to lower the fees so that people would start to come back being wedded in the church again. Mass weddings are good but of course some couples would not want to have it on mass weddings but of course would want it private of course. Having lower fees would encourage back couples to be wedded again in church.
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@romzee (937)
• Philippines
15 Oct 12
You're right rsa, the church must find ways to lower their wedding fees. I believe even mass wedding is not free unless some politician or an organization put up the bill. Can't the church waive these fees?
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
12 Oct 12
I say, don't hold your breath expecting anything Catholic to be free! How do you think Catholicism got to be the richest organization in the history of the world? Well it wasn't because giving anything away! Of course the church would consider civil marriage alarming because the church hates anything that cuts into their profit.
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@romzee (937)
• Philippines
13 Oct 12
You made your point there, the church is no charity. Indeed church needs financial income and church rites and services are but a few of them. Catholic schools are well known to be "expensive schools" only rich families can afford.
@meowchie (992)
• Philippines
13 Oct 12
aside from being costly, some couple get married out of the church because of the fantasy weddings by the beach,mountain hills,poolside,restaurant and more.. Some were indeed civil weddings while some aren't civil but wedded by a Reverend. But true, i think the regular mass wedding is a need especially now a days, young couples who wanted to be together can't afford even civil wedding. So the tendency is to live-in, which in the sight of God is sinful, and in the sight of the kids is very unpleasant because they might think it's how a "family" should be. It's alarming yeah :/ Some do reason out that they lived-in because they are still saving moneys for the wedding. But living-in caused them 1 kid, 2 kids or even more. So means more expenses in the future and means less savings. Then that's when they have forgotten about their marriage. yayy.. :]
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@romzee (937)
• Philippines
14 Oct 12
You're right my friend, the church must do a regular mass wedding so as to give live-in partners who don't have the money specially young couples to have their union bless by the matrimony of the church.
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Church wedding is often considered expensive just because this is what the public see. I don't think weddings, civil or church, should be en grande. A church wedding doesn't have to be expensive. It is simply asking for a blessing from God to bless the couple and the people present during the ceremony. Of course it is a celebration, but I don't think it has to say "expensive" all over. I think that Roman Catholic couples should be practical now a days. Expensive gowns and suits, and catered reception in a hotel or a restaurant are the factors that contribute to the "expensive church wedding". I think a traditional home reception is fine if the budget's really tight. Family, close friends and a few guests could be on your invitation list; people who really know and care for the couple. I also think that a church wedding is like a baby's baptismal. The parents choose godparents who they know will be able to take care of their child and will be able to guide the child to God.
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@romzee (937)
• Philippines
13 Oct 12
Well, yes... Weddings need not be expensive, whether it's a church or civil rite. It's a matter of choice the couple can decide, specially on a limited budget. Close relatives and friends on a table or two on a budget restaurant will be more practical and expensive gowns can be avoided with elegant cheaper alternative.
@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Ours was a garden wedding. We're not Catholic and therefore there is no way we're holding our wedding in their church. But we do have church as well but we really chose not to held the wedding in there for some reasons. We also sought for advice from elderlies and they agreed that we just held a garden wedding instead in our church. In fact, our first parent Adam and Eve didn't had a church wedding. I believe they are in the garden of Eden so I don't think it is a requirement. What is important is how you value your marriage and your marriage vows as you did not only swear to your partner but to God as well. I've seen so many couple who got married in Church and there's no difference I believe. They will still live a life of a regular couple. I think that the type of wedding won't dictate how long your marriage will last. It would really depend on the couple. Going back to your post, yes I heard that it is really expensive to have a Catholic wedding because you spend money in church preparation and for the reception as well. This is actually one of the considerations we made. We really do not want to struggle financially after the wedding so we decided to make everything simple. As for the legality of marriage, I believe that there are countries that they don't acknowledge church weddings so if you're having a church wedding, you still need to have civil wedding before that. As for the mass wedding, I think the problem with this is that the wedding is like fiest when in fact it should be sacred and solemn.
@romzee (937)
• Philippines
12 Oct 12
Church wedding here in the Philippines are legally binding so if you wed in church, a civil wedding is not necessary. Well, a garden wedding here is a privilege wedding only for the few wealthy and famous people so you're lucky to have one. Yes, you are right, the lasting relationship of the couple is not base on their wedding but depends on love and mutual respect for each other.