I got kicked out of a church forum for telling the truth!!!

I agree that we are to love one another. That is the second of two commandments. I always try to follow it and I fail like every other human. But being atheist is something I was until I read a book called "Evidence That Demands A Verdict", by Josh McDowell. It is all about his experience being an atheist trial lawyer and... Well, you should read it. It changed my mind forever, and made me see things not only in religion and science, but in society and beyond.

It would be the true you, not me, Kidding. But you are right, or left? Well either way, you are correct. We do need to search further. It is a never ending learning experience. The book is fantabulous.

Well, I don't know the book although the name of the author does ring a bell. But from what you say I can already agree: look further!!!! And if we do, we will see that we only have to look at ourselves and our true "ME". Am I right? (no, I vote left. LOL)

I should explain further about Andrew Price, before somebody claims the above is abuse. Andrew used to preach in Exhibition Road, Kensington, London, where the Mormon "Church Centre" is situated. They proceeded to take him to court, claiming he was disturbing their worship, and drummed up witnesses to say they heard him inside. Now, assuming these witnesses weren't simply lying, the only way this could have happened is if they had miked him in the street and beamed it out through speakers in the "Church Centre". So they won the case and ruinous damages.

Correct peavey, correct. It was a church information forum and I posted something on halloween. Yet, they were wishing each other a happy halloween as I stated before. My post was just the opposite of what they were doing. Going outside the "ward info" was not unusual there. Many times they would post things other than things like I stated above. I am not justifying it, rather saying that I know that they did it out of spite, and not because of the "reason" they stated...

Sweetloveforeve: I respectfully disagree with you. I believe that we should talk about God. It makes sense that discussions are the surest way to settle misunderstandings and to teach others about God. Your boyfriend was following God's commands. We are suppose to put God before all others. I tell my husband that in his eyes I should come second only to God. I believe that without God granting me such love and gifts, I would not have this man to share my life with, nor would I have been blessed with our children. For your boyfriend to say that you (or anything else) was more important than God would be wrong for any Christian to say or believe. The Bible also tells us to share our faith and the good news of Christ's love for us. You are correct in that God gives us the freedom to choose what we will believe. We are suppose to be gentle, kind, and respectful in sharing our beliefs. Christ Himself did not force people to believe Him,nor did He stay where He was not wanted. If you feel forced to believe as others do you have to ask yourself if it is because whoever is talking to you is truly forceful or whether you are feeling like something just isn't quite right with your faith. Codymac: I do not know of the forum you discussed, but from what I gather they expected that people would share general information and not get into religious discussions. I think it is strange that they would not expect beliefs to be shared in their forum. I am sorry you are bothered by the reaction to your post, but you must know that it is part of God's will and purpose. Under no circumstance is it acceptable to mock another person's beliefs and opinions, even when they are different from your own. I am sorry that those people disgraced you in such a manner. Don't let it bring or keep you down. Instead, let it be a building block in making you stronger. I agree with you on the subject of halloween. I do not participate in the "holiday". God told His followers that we would be persecuted for our belief in Him. You did the right thing by speaking out against what you know to be wrong, but you have to let it go now. You can not force others to accept your beliefs even if we know they are biblically based truths. Our job as Christians is to spread God's word and live as positive examples of Christ's character. We can only plant a seed. After that, it is up to the other person to choose whether he or sh will accept God and follow Him. I, too have grave concerns about Obama's reelection, but I also know that it is in God's plan. We are not capable of understanding everything God does, but we do know that it works for a divine purpose in His plan. All we can do now is hit our knees and pray that God will guide the decisions of all of our government leaders. Respect entails a lot more than feeling admiration for another person. You can respect the opinions of other people without admiring the person or their attitude. The Bible tells us that we are suppose to love ALL people. It is not easy to do, but we must. Respecting someone's right to choose how they believe is not the same as saying that their choice is correct anymore than respecting their right to believe something is the same as saying that a belief is a correct one. I hope you find another discussion forum where your beliefs will be accepted and respected. If at any time you wish to discuss the Word of God, please feel free to contact me on mylot. In the meantime, may God continue to bless you and keep you firmly on the path He has chosen for you to take.

Thank you sweetloveforeve. I am happy to know that you agree that they should not have kicked me out. They never said anything about my post not being "information for the ward" they just ganged up on me and mocked me. They were wishing everyone in the forum a "happy halloween" so I posted something on halloween. For that, thanks. I am happy you are on my side. I do have respect for things that pertain to truth. If I say I have respect for someones religion it means that it is ok. But to me it is not ok to see others living a lie. We now live in a society where it is better to be anything BUT a Christian. We have a president who would rather crucify a Christian than bring this nation together. His reelection will mean serious problems for those of us who are believers. Just you wait and see. I am not a prophet but I predict that by the time he leaves office, this world will be a much worse place. Not just here in America, sweetloveforeve, but the whole world. And much worse for believers. He is going to go down in history as the president who killed the constitution. And the constitution was built off of a belief that all men were created equal, and given rights that no man can take away. But our president does not see it that way. He sees is as a changing document. And that means no freedoms when it comes to my beliefs. Now, if tolerating another's belief is what you are meaning, then that is different than respecting it. I can tolerate my brother's wife who is annoying, but I do not respect her, because respecting means to feel a deep admiration. And no, I do not admire her annoying attitude at all.

Codymac: The encouragement to vote for a specific candidate and to name another as one not to vote for is probably what got you kicked out of the forum. Once you name names, you are leaving the religious realm and moving into the political one, which is frowned upon by both arenas. Preachers will not generally encourage their congregation to vote for a specific candidate. Even Billy Graham left political encouragements to simply say "vote your convictions". It goes against people's perception of keeping the church and state separated to tell people who to vote for. By your own admission, that halloween thing was the second "offense" you comitted in the forum.

An online forum is not a public platform so there is no "freedom of speech" problem.

I agree that we have lost our freedom of speech, because of our president. @peavey, you are correct in that it is not a public forum. Information of this kind was not to discuss beliefs, but to simply give them facts about something everyone in the forum was doing. They were wishing everyone a happy halloween, that didnt pertain to "ward information". So I saw nothing wrong with my post. They see "ward info" as, "I need a ride to the store, can anyone help out...'