When will it clue in

@911Ricki (13588)
Canada
November 18, 2012 7:51pm CST
This stray cat is vicious, he attacks other cats, and now trying to fight the two dogs (which are part husky labs). My Mother is just that stupid, I told her if it attacks my cat I will throw it outside, and she then will be paying my vet bills. She has been leaving this cat out of the dog cage while noone is home. It will fight for food, fight over anything, a cat walks by he will attack them. I have caught this cat cornering my caats all the time, Patches will fight back but Toppie & Stripes are little babies. Even the vet said this is most likely Patches issue, this cat is picking on er and attacking her. One of my Mother's cat is the same way since this cat has come in ths house. Tonight the dogs were sitting downstairs, and he tried attacking them. So of course they start growling and ready to attack this cat. I'm sure the entire neighbourhood heard my Mother scream which clearly does nothing. My brother is down there trying to hold two 50 pound dogs apart and get this cat in a cage while he goes at everything and anything. If this cat was at a shelter it would be unadoptable and probably put down (even in a no kill shelter). Whenever I am home, and this cat is out I take my cats a lock them in my room. They wont learn until something happens or worse.
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@STOUTjodee (3572)
• United States
19 Nov 12
That's the bad part of taking in stray animals, you just don't know about how they were treated before. Sometimes I wonder when you see a stray animal if that's why they are stray, because the owner couldn't handle them.
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
22 Nov 12
There are so many many reasons for the cat to become a stray. Many people get a kitten because it is sooooo cute. They bring it in the house and find out that they have a claw tornado. Kittens, like children, need time and training. I have two flame point Siamese brothers that were the "tornado twins". I would find them climbing to the top of the drapes in a "race to king of the mountain", they would steal things and hide them (I have long hair that I pull back in a pony tail and rather than use rubber bands I buy specially made hair things, when I finally find the nest of hair things I will have around 500 of them. Khuay loved them and he would sneak off with them as often as he could. I would reach for one and it would be gone! I didn't figure that one out until he went cruising by with one.), and they clawed the furniture. Just like I had to teach my daughter what she could and couldn't do, I had to teach my cats proper behavior in the house. Cats, contrary to popular belief, are not self sufficient. They need love, they need training, they need attention, they need human interaction. Willy, the other twin is laying beside me. (he just changed the channel on the television from the Thanksgiving parade to infomercials...it explains a lot!!!! ) When humans find that the cats are destructive, rather than work with them and teach them other behavior they simply toss them out the door to wander the streets. Usually the humans don't even bother to spay or neuter them before they're given the boot. Cats can be taught contrary to what some people think...but some cats won't learn "tricks" because they are not anything similar to dogs...but again there are some cats that will learn to do tricks to please their owners- you just have to give them a break! You are right about the owner not being able to handle the cat. They don't want to take the time to take responsibility for the furry bundle. They don't want a cat tree cluttering up the house, they don't want a litter box to clean, they haven't got the time to chill out with a wonderful purring bundle on their laps. A cat to them is just something to show off to their friends, like a Ming vase. Unfortunately this "Ming vase" has claws and gets bored easily. I don't normally make New Year's resolutions, that was one I made many years ago. But this year I am making one early. I make jewelry and teddy bears and the local shelters are going to receive regular donations to help out their activities. They go to schools and talk about "pets" to the children and the responsibilities of owning a pet. They operate no kill shelters, which are over crowded because of people getting an animal and not having time for it, and rather than slowing down a bit and spending time with a source of unconditional love, they dump it at the shelter. I'm sorry, I got on my soap box again. I am sitting here crying for a poor terrified cat that is in a totally new situation. And it is expected that this cat is going to march in like a finishing school gentleman and be able to interact with everyone like a "proper" gentleman rather than like Eliza Doolittle before she was retrained to be a lady. I have four cats and three dogs entrusted to me. I am so thankful for them. Each day they teach me something new. Each day they do something to make me laugh. Each day they show how much they love me and want to protect me. I woke up this morning surrounded by my furry protection squad. Some are rescues...actually all of my critters are rescues. Murphy was a "throw away". Murphy is a lynx point Siamese that I adopted from the shelter. She was grabbed by an angry boyfriend and he tossed her into a cage at the animal shelter. He didn't latch the cage and she got lose...It took the people three days to catch her!!! I adopted her the day they caught her. When I went to pick her up the owner called and wanted her cat back. She was told NO, that the cat's new owner came and picked her up. We heard the woman shrieking that the cat was a purebred and that the cat was worth $1500. I love the answer, "If the cat was that valuable you should have taken better care of it" and the person at the humane society hung up. The three dogs are rescues too. Just like the other three cats. I could go on with their stories, but it all amounts to it taking me time to train them to fit into my home. Whether it was training the pit/lab mix to not hate cats (the person who had her worked hard at making her hate cats as he hated cats), getting my oldest dachshund to interact with people, or making the youngest dachshund past being shy because I was the fifth home he had in 3 weeks...they all have the same thing in common; time, patience, understanding and tons of love and hugs. Sorry about the lecture. I love ALL my animals, and actually all animals and hate to hear someone this unhappy and not understanding what is happening from the cat's point of view. When this happens, the person should simply find a place where the cat can roam free and not have the expectations put on it that have been place on it.
• United States
22 Nov 12
Exactly, there are many reason why animals become strays and I was not implying that it is the animals fault. I was just saying that the owner of the animal that abandons an animal is lazy and has no patience with raising an animal!
• United States
19 Nov 12
What is the reason the cat is vicious? Are you or your mom feeding the cat? If it's hungry that might be the reason it's acting up. Why are you putting it in a cage? That might be another reason it's acting up. You ask "when will it clue in?"; do you think it's an intelligent cat? It's an animal that goes by instinct. If this cat has been, or is being, abused that might be why it's behaving badly. The best thing you could do I suppose is call the animal control to come pick it up or have your mom drive it to the humanes shelter. Better a cat be put to sleep then to suffer hunger and/or abuse. They might find a good home for the kitty.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Nov 12
thedataminer oh you have got Ricki so wrong this cat is a strau Ricki truly cares so m uc h for all her pets so you should not talk to her'like that. the cat is not their cat, its a stray. and they wer3e only putting it in a ca ge tol save it from two big dogs . read Ricki's o ther discussions before you accuse her of animal abuse.they are not abu sing the stray it is not their cat and its an outsider and vicious. you owe Ricki an apology
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
21 Nov 12
I hope you will read my post. I have read the other postings and something that hasn't been said is that the cat is in a NEW environment and could be frightened out of its wits. It's tossed in a cage when it is used to being free. I am sure that Ricki is feeding the cat, but EVERYONE is looking at this stray as a cat that has wandered from a loving home. Not all cats are treated well in a home. I am NOT SAYING THAT RICKI IS ABUSING THE CAT!!! I AM SAYING THAT THE PREVIOUS HOME IT CAME FROM MAY HAVE BEEN ABUSIVE! All animals act differently under different situations. Just like humans. Everyone is saying to get rid of the cat, put it to sleep, or toss it back out the door. I can't count the number of times that I have taken strays and tamed them and found loving homes for them. It takes patience and a bit of time. A cat can be re-domesticated and live with a family. I will suggest that since the cat isn't working out in the home and it is being caged for it's own protection, that maybe it's time to find it a home on a farm where it can live free and not worry about being "humanized". I have offered suggestions in my posting for dealing with the cat, but after reading the other posts, it would be better that the cat be rehomed, preferably in the country where it can live in a barn where it can earn its keep.
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
19 Nov 12
I don't know that I could deal with a cat like that. The kitten we have is a wild kitty. She was born outside to an wild cat. She has been with us since she was 4 weeks old though and she is pretty tame. She has her moments, but I think it is just her being a kitten. She likes to try to jump on you to get your attention to be picked up. Quite the vertical jump for a 4 month old kitten.
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@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
19 Nov 12
This cat is estimated to be 3 -5 years old, it has severe dyfigurments from clearly being a tom cat. He is missing the top of his ears, scratchs, adn scars all other. Rescueing a kitten and a grown cat a re a lot different, kittens tend to adapt, and forget the outside quickly.
@jugsjugs (12967)
25 Nov 12
If it bothered your dogs that much, your dogs would injure or worse still kill the cat. If it is a stray cat then it has always had to fight for its food and has to ajust to not having to fight to get food. If you had no food or your cat had no food, then you would have to do something to get food and it is survival. Your cat if hungry or stray would also fight for food to survive, no matter how sweet your cat is, it is nature. I do know what I am saying, as I helped at a cats home as in rescue, loads of cats had to get use to not needing to fight and had to become tame when feeding, it can take weeks or months for a stray cat to realise that they no longer have to fight for food for survival. They do not put cats down if they were once stray, just for the sake of fighting for food, as that is what a stray cat is use to.
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
27 Nov 12
The dogs did go after him, they are pretty laid back dogs, but they were going after this cat (which took two adult males to pull them away from this cat). I know it takes months for them to settle in (all 3 of my cats were rescues), but its been over nad above that. He has turned and attacked other animals, as well as HUMANS. So yes they will put him down for this, if we he attacked anyone that reported it, he would be put down, and my parents would be charged. This cat is very unpredictable, he has jumped on the table and tried attacking my face to get my plate of food. He has attacked my Dad, as well as my Mom out of nowhere, he walked bby and just tried grabbing them (if there arms didnt go up and get attacked their face would have). Even the vet said he would put him down, and made a note, if anyone reports this cat, it is being put down.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
22 Nov 12
Actually, I don't know that this cat would necessarily be labeled as an unadoptable animal. It would really depend on how the cat is around people. You see, when we were looking at adopting a cat a couple years ago, there were some that said you couldn't adopt them if you had dogs and there were others that said only cat in the household. There were yet other animals that had written on their information sheet that they had to be the only animal in the house. It might be that the cat that you are talking about is simply an animal that is not able to get along with other animals.
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
27 Nov 12
I work in an animal shelter and see this all the time. But this cat has turned on other animals and HUMANS. He is very unpredictable, he has walked by and just lunged at my parents to attack them and got their arm, just ripping their arms up from bitting and attacking. The vet even said he is unadoptable, if anyone reports him for biting them then he has to put the cat down. But also if he turns on someone else (for example if you have someone over) they can have large large fines, even jail time.
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
19 Nov 12
Thats terrible.. I sure wish you could get your own place there. These like that are un called for.
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
20 Nov 12
I agree, I can't wait to move out, and get away from the insane environemtn.
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
21 Nov 12
Is the stray spayed or neutered? That is the first reason for the attacks, if the cat isn't fixed he will see the other cats as "useless" and attack them. The next thing is that you need to "train" the cat. Since it is a stray it hasn't had to conform to human rules and feels that he still doesn't have to conform. You're looking at the situation in anger rather than understanding. I'm not saying this to be mean, I am looking at it from almost fifty years of experience in dealing with cats. Ralphie is a feral cat that is semi tame. I spent many hours taming the cat so that he would tolerate my touching him and even picking him up. He isn't neutered and he is aggressive towards other cats. I have worked with him for many hours to get him to allow other cats on the lot. It takes time, patience, and love but you can turn the cat around. I have tamed hundreds of feral and stray cats through the years and each one has done the same thing, they will attack to defend their perceived territory and make sure that they have food. It's the way of the cat. Even with tame cats you will have that problem if they aren't spayed or neutered. It will continue for a period of time after the procedure, but the cat will settle down after about 6 weeks. I know that you love your babies and want to protect Patches, Toppie and Stripes but remember that the stray is in a new environment and hasn't been with humans and raised in a human environment. Reach deep inside you and find a bit of compassion for the cat. I know it's hard, but cats originally started out wild and we domesticated them. Your cats had the opportunity of being raised in a loving environment and been protected by humans. Stray hasn't had that chance, he was tossed out in the wild and had to learn how to fend for himself. He is in a totally new environment and is facing someone who is angry at him because he is doing what he has had to do to protect himself and find food. He hasn't had everything provided for him so he has learned to fight for what he wants. You can't just keep him in a cage and not interact with him and work at teaching him that what he is doing isn't acceptable in your home. A good example is Abby. She is my rescue pit/lab mix. She was taught to hate cats. When I rescued her she went after my cats constantly. I had to lock her in the family room when I wasn't going to be home. I worked with Abby for several weeks and now she is friends with the cats. In fact Willy (one of the flame point twins) is her best friend and he sleeps with her. It took training and patience mixed with love. Please try to not look at the cat as an enemy. Look at it as a cast off that someone threw out and forced the cat to become uncivilized. Look at it as a child that hasn't had the benefits that your babies have had... and also remember that the cat will pick up the negativity from you and continue to act out. I wish I was in your area as I would come and get the cat and work with it. I assure you that the cat can be retrained and be recivilized to fit into anyone's house hold, if he is given a chance.
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
19 Nov 12
it all depends ,its all about their mindset and how well they gonna decide and secure about it ,unless and until,this cats wont be calming down
@NailTech (6874)
• United States
19 Nov 12
There are way to rehabilitate or "tame" such cats that have been known to be vicious but it is a very intense and complex procedure and you would have to consult with a person like that Cat guy on the Animal Channel (Galaxy I think he goes by as the last part of his name? He does good work but he would have to come to your home to try to "fix" things and I'm sure you would have to wait for weeks and weeks if ever for him to help). Has she tried to take the cat to a vet to see if he can be controlled with medication, or perhaps he is a vicious cat because of his teeth. I have heard some cats can be or get aggressive due to tooth problems. Just some thoughts to throw your way in order to help. That isn't a good situation for any of the residents of your house, including the animals.