Lucky punch? I think not

@nytrisco (567)
Philippines
December 9, 2012 5:19am CST
I felt bad to Manny Pacquiao because (1) I am a Filipino citizen and (2) He gave everything on that match, every round it's like Manny is very energetic and the old Manny came back. But I think, Marquez really prepared on the said event, he worked hard for it and I think that he literally studied Manny's move step by step. On the 6th round when Manny executed his "1-2-punch" move, Marquez saw it and gave Manny a big fatal right blow to his face. I don't understand why some people that they keep on telling us that it was just a "Lucky Punch". But for me, it is not. A lot of people including Mayor Lim, news reporters and anchors, and some commentators used this word. Or maybe it is just their defense mechanism that led them to deny that their (our) champ didn't won the fight, some kinda denial thing. And I think Marquez deserved the victory fair and square.
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@ally12 (1202)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Its because many Filipino still not know how to accept defeat with dignity. Its always like that , and now many are even blaming the new religion of Manny Pacquiao, I just hope they will all realize what they are acting towards his religion coz its not actually the pastors or the servants of God or the religion they are actually attacking/questioning but the God of Manny Pacquiao.
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@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I do believe that it is not because of the religion, in someways, I do believe that Manny himself should be blame on this one. This morning, a boxer analyst was interviewed and he told the news that, Roach was telling him to go straight in the US for the camp, but Manny still went in the Phil and delayed his training for a couples of days. I think, he was being over confident about the fight and he thought that he could win the match. But in the end of the game, I still accepted the he was defeated by Marquez. Nice game but it was a bit short.
@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
it was a solid punch that made pacquaio hit the canvas and stay there for a while. people may call it whatever they want, but it was a solid punch. pacquaio did not see it coming. he was bent on landing his 1-2 punch. marquez gamely took the first punch which was jab, and unleashed his right straight with devastating effect. that put pacquaio to dreamland. i still want to see a pacquaio-marquez 5.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Very well said mensab, you know what according to the news this morning when Roach heard that there will be a Pacquiao-Marquez 4, he felt something bad is coming and he had a feeling that Marquez is prepared and studied every move of Manny. Roach doesn't like the idea of Pacquiao-Marquez 4 in the first place. And he is correct.
@rsa101 (37905)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
For Manny it could have been lucky but I know for Marquez it wasn't he just saw an opportunity to strike and Manny was caught unaware of this. I heard Manny admitted that he became overconfident and I think that was his mistake in this fight since Marquez saw the opening that put him down.
@rsa101 (37905)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
Plus I think there are rumors spreading that Marquez did train uninterrupted for 5 months for this fight but Pacquiao only made intensive 5 month training in US and the rest was made here locally without the supervision of his Coach Roach that is why in between those times he was able to freely enjoy time on his own.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
I guess it was not a rumor, because I've heard one commentator said to an interview that Roach was telling Manny to head back in US to train but I think he over extended his time here in PH.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I also heard about it that he was over confident about the match. Anyway, even though that match had ended so fast, they still gave their best. So I'm still proud of Manny.
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• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Hello nytrisco, of course, we tend to make huge excuses and allow denial statements not to understand why he lost. but if he wasn't into showbiz and politics, there's no doubt that manny would have won again. Marquez studied manny's move for years in every defeat and now he finally brought down pacman. i think doubts of manny's strength will only be determined if he defeats marquez again since he's the real fighter who would never get scared of manny.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
You have a point, Manny has a lot of distractions around him, like showbiz, politics, and others. It's like, while Marquez is learning every move of Manny. In the other hand, Manny is just enjoying being a politician/celebrity/father/pastor/et al. I believe that if Manny really had focus his attention only to that fight, he has a big advantge to won that match.
@nicanorr (1789)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Pacquiao indeed was ahead on points, but said Marquez' "Lucky Punch" came in the nick of time, in a split unexpected second when Pacquiao defenses was open. Marquez' thunderous right hook erased Pacquiao's advantage and all.
@romzee (937)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
It is indeed a lucky punch! But in boxing whether it is a lucky punch or not, a win is a win! I congratulate Marquez for a job well done, and I am very sorry for my idol for his loss. There's a saying - "You can't win them all!".
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• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I think manny's mistake was going open undefended when attempting to attack marquez and when the mexican dynamite so that he took an opportunity to hit him and knock him out. if Manny doesn't quit on showbiz,politcs,etc, then he would definitely loose again in a heart beat.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yeah, El Dinamita saw his move clearly and gave Manny a big blow.
@GilMegans (241)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Thanks for sharing your opinions nytrisco. Well, that's merely your opinion and assessment relative to that fight between the two superstars. But i cannot understand your point why you felt bad to Pacman, it's because he lose the fight and failed your expectation? or you have lost something valuable on those fight? Whatever your reason is, it's not good to uttered unpleasant words against our champ. You must be proud and thankful because he was not blatantly fatal on that right hook of Marquez instead of saying anything else that unhelpful most especially you are a Filipino. Another thing, whatever they called those "punch" the very focal point is Marquez got the right timing which makes the fight early stopped. It is not a defense mechanism that's only their personal views and assessment of the fight just like of what you felt as well. Manny has already prove how tough and humble fighter he is. He has already proven that his records is extraordinary. And we (people) are shocked on what happen to him simply because people have expected too much and we never seen Manny kiss the canvass like on what happen on his opponents during their fights. We must posses respect and be proud of our champ because we are a Filipino, he gives too much honor to our country and it is very unethical if we blame him because of his failure.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I felt bad in a way that he wanted to defeat Marguez and wanted to knock him down, but it was the other way around. And no, I didn't lose anything because I did not place any bet to anyone of them. I am proud of him and I think I did not wrote any unpleasant words or even make jokes about the defeat of Manny. It's just that for me, I think Marquez really studied Pacman's every single movements and when he saw an opening, he suddenly grabbed that opportunity before its too late. I'm not saying that I am a Marquez fan. Yes, Manny is one of a kind fighter and for me he is the best fighter in the world. we cannot simply judge him just because he just lost a fight to Marquez. It's ok that he lost that fight, it will not ruin his achievements esp he was named as "The Mexican Destroyer", how many Mexican boxers did he defeated? And how many Mexicans defeated him? I humbly respect Pacman because of what he did for our country. And I think blaming is a common reaction of people every time they see something wrong about it, it is unethical but I guess people sometimes cannot control their feelings and emotions that is why they blame (I'm not referring only to Manny). Thank you for your response gil. =)
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
It would have been a very good celebration after the game, we do know already that manny has the edge in the game already causing marquez' nose bled already. I mean it is not a lucky punch but rather a well coordinated move by our opponent. Let us give him the credit for throwing that one, and for the record it was rather clear that pacquiao did not anticipate that move and so he was caught off guard.
@beamer88 (4259)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
This is what I was afraid of. When Pacquiao loses, some of our countrymen can't accept the outcome of the fight, and they thus make excuses of some sort like this 'lucky punch' thing. Boxing is a sport, and like in any other sport, anybody can win. We should show the world how sportsmanlike we are and just acknowledge Pacquiao's defeat, period.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yeah, It is good to hear a lot of media personality speak about sportsmanship on air so that people will still look at Manny still as undefeated and still the greatest boxer today.
@nykalex88 (243)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
I am a Filipino too... Both of them have really a chance to knockout their opponent. Marquez was a little bit lucky to first hit Manny. Same thing if Manny landed a punch like that, Marquez would surely fell in the ground too. It's a great fight in deed. Manny was just a little careless... Their fights were never a mismatch. Both of them have their chances to win.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yep, you have a point since both of them were very strong, just like what Manny did to Hatton. He threw a big punch at Hatton and fell in the middle of the ring.
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yes, it's true. They say it is a "lucky punch", but maybe, that is not Pacquiao's time to win. He is so aggressive that time and Marquez took advantage of it. Some people can't accept the fact that our Filipino champ was defeated but not only that, He was being knocked out by Marquez in 6th round. I hope, that would be that last match for them. I know some filipinos are very disappointed because their bet/stake for Manny Pacquiao loses. LOL!
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yeah, he was very aggressive that time it's like he was going berserk but when Marquez saw the movements, he gave one big punch to Manny. I also hope that it would be the last installment of their rivalry, I think they might as well give it to Marquez since he is now 39 and a couple of years by now he'll retire. But for Manny, he still has a lot of years to fight.
10 Dec 12
Lucky Punch? No way. JM Marquez expected and prepared for Pacquiao's move and delivered the "Million Dollar Killer Punch" that ended the fight. That's it! Let's just pray and hope that nothing more serious happens to our Boxing Hero.
@nytrisco (567)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Yep, I also hope that there will be no after shock injuries or late effect on that blow to he received.