He cheats all the time

@dee777 (1417)
South Africa
December 28, 2012 4:48am CST
My friend has been married for almost twenty years. Throughout this twenty years she came to me to cry her heart out; has been in hospital for stress; is on heavy medication for depression; gained about 20 kg because her husband would not stop cheating... It's clear that she will not leave him, and is on her way to self-destruction. What more can I do to help her?
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
28 Dec 12
Kick your friend out! Might sound hard but this is probably the only way to open her eyes. She is not willing to change anyting in her situation otherwise she would have done that a long time ago. Sounds to me she is happy with or not stabbed in her back hard enough. She is a free person so she can stay if she likes. But if so she should NOT complain about her misery to others. This is her life, her husband, her choice! She is the one who accepts this behaviour and she is also the one who knows by now he will never change. There are no consequences for him since he probably is happy is she is taking meds, less complaining, goes to mental hospital. Plus the fact she gained weight is another good reason for him to cheat on her. That she is on her way to self-destruction is her own choice as well. She should known better, should have know a long time ago what to do and who her real friends are. She did not learn her lesson until now. So let her destruct herself. That husband and bad marriage is still way more important to her as you as a good friend or a life or her own. Sorry no mercy, no pity feelings for her. In 20 years time you have had enough opportunities to escape, to make plans, to save, to build a life of your own. Might be there was a moment she was afraid to start all over again, afraid of new things but that is why you have friends. Now she is only breaking her friends as well. It did not work to feel compassion or mercy or pity with her so the only thing left over is to kick her out!
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
28 Dec 12
And you know what, she has a very good job and earns good money! It's as if she has become addicted to this lifestyle of pain.... When I saw her the other day she looked like a zombi of all the meds she takes just to cope... I really are fed-up and do not want to listen to her nagging all the time!
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@verolop29 (1096)
• United States
28 Dec 12
Yea I must agree with wakeupkitty. If that were me I'd slap myself, kick HIS self out and change the locks to my house and get a really mean dog and sick the dog on him lol!! By that I mean tell the dog to attack him! I know that's mean but he should not cheat on his woman no matter if she gained weight. I would do the same if my hubby ever did that to me. But I know him and he wouldn't! If the action behind the bedroom doors stopped suddenly....that's a different story.
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
verolop29, she will never kick him out... I do not understand this kind of love she has for him. I will continue to be there for her though.
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• Philippines
29 Dec 12
Hi Dee, It's really hard..a really hard situation for you since you are just there to comfort and give an advice to your friend but you can never do anything unless his husband will do what is really right for their relationship. It's sad that there are relationships who would tend to end that way even though they were together for such a long time already. I think the best you can do is to pray for your friend and give her more comfort. Happy Holidays!
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• Philippines
30 Dec 12
She should be thankful to have a friend like you.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
Thanx smurfysmurf. It's tiring to listen to all her moaning all the time, but I will stand by her. Off all the people she knows, I am the only one who she chooses to talk to, and I do feel so very sorry for her. Enjoy the holidays too!
@verolop29 (1096)
• United States
28 Dec 12
If u want to be a good friend find her a therapist to help her deal with what she's going thru. Don't say here is this shrink go to him/her and talk with this person; just find a shrink write the info on a piece of paper and the next to e she comes to lay it all on u, instead of inviting her in to talk walk with her or drive her to this therapist. Wait a few minutes after she goes inside and then leave. That might be ur best thing u can do for her. That's what I'd do if my friend was in that kind of situation. If that doesn't help then u should let her know somehow that she's making u feel the way she feels just by listening to her. That may not be her intent but she is doing it nevertheless.
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
I did that too.... I almost forced her to see a therapist, and she went. The therapist contacted the husband after the 5th session with her alone and said he wants to counsel both of them. Well, the husband refused to go and said that it's his wife who has problems - there's nothing wrong with him and they should leave him alone... There's nothing more I can do now...
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@leeandrew (1225)
• Philippines
29 Dec 12
I know someone who also seemed cheating his partner all the time. I have known that before he dated my friend he already have a family with five kids, but he told my friend that he was single and so they got married. She did not find it out until she was pregnant with her first child. It was a shock of her life but there is nothing she can do co's the man won't leave her but insisted that they live together even it was an "against all odds" kind of relationship. But he seems continue on doing such thing until the recent time even his already old and a senior already. So annoying... some people said try to understand but... I just don't get it!
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
Oh my word - sorry for your friend. No, leeandrew, I will never understand that kind of love. I am sure that the women can sense that all is not well and that the man is not faithful, but still they continue the relationship and allow the men to hurt them. Surely a strange kind of love... I also don't get it!
@nani4ajay (108)
• India
28 Dec 12
I feel it's better to stay away from him, otherwise her life will be risky because of the damage caused by her husband, I don't understand why these people always cheats life partner, they must be punished, I feel sorry to your friend for her condition because of her husband, I hope she will have good days.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
28 Dec 12
Thanx nani4aja, but I do not understand this woman. It looks as if she love him in a way that I will never understand is is almost enjoying this 'punishment'.
• India
28 Dec 12
pacify her . Take her to shopping or spa this will atleast make her happy for some time. Make a sting operation of her husband like "emotional attyachar" keep the video private and later show it to your friend's husband. He will feel guilty of his mistake and might be he may improve
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
Oh no! I do not want to get involved like that... I would like to see that she takes responsibility and confront her husband and choose what she wants for her life; or tell him to choose! I cannot entertain her at a spa, for i do not have money laying around. But let me tell you - she has lots of money. She does her nails, hair & face done at a clinic 2 x a month... She entertains herself well and enjoys her money - alone. Pity that money cannot buy happiness, hey.
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@vicky30 (4766)
• India
29 Dec 12
The best thing would be for your friend to calm down and not take any tension about her husbands cheating. She can tell him the consequences of cheating like he might be caught by the police or he might be beaten up from some angry person. If he still does not change the best option would be to leave him alone for sometime till he realizes his mistake. When she leaves him she should go home and pray for his transformation so that he will leave his bad habits and both your friend and her husband can live happily again.
@vicky30 (4766)
• India
4 Jan 13
It is the true love she has for him. She is trying to bring him to the right path through her love. Her efforts will not go in vain and she will see a honest husband very soon.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
Thanx vicky30. It looks as if she will never leave him. It looks as if she is used to his cheating the past 20 years. Her self-esteem is so low and she has spoken to him over and over again about his lifestyle, but he denies everything - even when she shows him all the proof of his infidelity! I will never understand this kind of love.
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
10 Jan 13
Oh vicky30, if that happen, I will be over the moon. Perhaps she sees how her love for him will change him and have decided to persevere and remain the doormat until...
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
28 Dec 12
Nothing. You may actually be enabling it. Obviously this isn't your intent, but as long as she has a shoulder to cry on, that might be what keeps her going back. Some of us get damaged mentally and believe we're stuck with what we're stuck with. And relating that info to someone and getting understanding might just keep us stuck. I don't think there is anything you can do to help her, besides telling her that you're not the shrink. She has to realize that it's not okay, that there's no one there but her to pick up the pieces.
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
28 Dec 12
Yes, I will have to take a stand. I do not show empathy, or sympathy anymore. She's a grown woman who earns enough to take care of her own life. Perhaps I should tell her just that and send her off...
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Nothing. A person who is unwilling to make the changes required to fix their lives, are doomed, and there is nothing you can do about it.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Yup, pretty much. Look, you already accept the fact that you can't force her to fix her life. You must also accept the fact that you have other responsibilities than her. You have family? You have a husband? You have children? You have friends? You have a life outside of her. You can't spend all of your emotional energy on one person that refuses to do what must be done. In fact, it's morally wrong. You owe it to the other people in your life to move on. So here is what must be done. You need to sit down with her, look her in the eyes, eye to eye... and tell her that you care about her and wish her the best, but that you have already told her what she must do to fix her life, and she refuses to do it. So, you can no longer spend all your energy on someone who refuses to be helped. If she decides to leave her husband, and fix her life, you'll be there with open arms to be her friend. But otherwise, you don't want to hear about her awful husband anymore. From that point on, it is up to her to choose. You did your part. You did more than your part. And whatever happens from here on, you know you did the best you could, and the rest is her deal. That's how this works.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
7 Jan 13
Thank you so much. Yeah I have decided that I had enough. This is a new year and we all need to take responsibilities for our choices.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
I agree andy77e, but how can I chase her away when she comes to me again... in tears when the same thing happens again. Must I chase her away and tell hr to get a life and sort out her live? This is making me very tired.
@JamesKYTan (1605)
• Malaysia
31 Dec 12
My only advice is for your friend to go back to her mother's home and stay until her husband wakes up. At least her mother can give motherly advice and most of all comfort. Each time her husband comes without home cooked meal it will come a time when he realises that he in fact needs her tender loving care. Or at the last resort ask your friend to seek God. When everything else fails seek God. God never fails us. God bless her and you.
@Iriene88 (5343)
• Malaysia
13 Feb 13
I am sorry to hear that. She may have her siblings or friends like you who can offer support. Show to him that she can be independent and does not need her husband at all. God bless.
• Malaysia
13 Feb 13
Hi, I agree with Iriene88. Her siblings and friends can help her by giving her moral support. Stand by her at all times.
@garson (884)
• United States
11 Feb 13
I just read this after I made a comment. How about the in-law? Does she have a good relationship with them?
@Olleenz (3398)
• Indonesia
28 Dec 12
On what reasons she can't leave her husband ...?? If: 1. too much love. You can't help it. It better for you to kick her off from your life so she understand what she done it stupid 2. Don't have ability to build her own living (economic reason). Teach her how to make living (do business, find jobs or something similar) 3. Afraid for children future. Tell her children all facts and possibilities
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
28 Dec 12
Let me tell you she earns enough money.... more than I can ever earn. She lives in a luxury house, huge garden, swimming pool, etc... I mean - she is a clever woman. It could be that she wants to stay for the sake of her children... but they also see how she looks every day - no smile, miserable, sick and tired of life...??
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
1 Feb 13
I am also at a loss of what to do if I ever had a friend like that. The things I will do for that friend... well. I try to cheer her up. Continue to support her and help her get through this. I don't see why she should do this to herself. She deserves love and the one person that really must possess that love for her, is herself. Why let a rotten husband affect her like this? I don't see the point. This is a serious case of self-pity, loss of self-respect, loss of self-esteem and loss of hope. She needs to regain all of this and get back at her husband by improving herself. She doesn't need such a husband anyway.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
20 Feb 13
Wow, she's rich. She should make herself look good. Do some exercise, get fit, buy new clothes. But hair do every week? I think that is too much LOL!
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
19 Feb 13
Oh yes, I cheer her up as much as I can. Because she earns enough money, she entertain herself tremendously! She visits spa's; have hair-do's every week; does her nails once a month....
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
25 Feb 13
She is a professor at a university and needs to look good all of the time... she has someone who does her cooking and another for cleaning... not to mention the two gardeners she has!
• Philippines
28 Dec 12
Sorry to say but I think there is no one who can help your friend but just herself only... What happen to her is her own predicament for she allows it to happen to her. I understand your concern for her because she is your friend and you really care but as you said, she will never leave her husband's side. Sometimes love is really unfair, but this love your friend is showing is so unhealthy for her. Me and my husband is together for 12 years, we have too many misunderstanding but one thing I am proud of is that he never cheated me ever since. He had counted of girlfriends before we met but our love to each other changed him. What I am pointing is that love is beautiful and should be the ground of fidelity. I don't know why there are people who keeps on cheating their partner. Maybe, their love is not so pure and true. As for your friend, I know how hurt she is but she must realize what should be the best for her and if her happiness is her husband then no one can take it from her. As a friend, please don't get tired of her as soon as possible God will lead her way.
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@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
It's difficult to be a friend when the other person just wants to suck you dry. This is what this friend is doing to our friendship. She just wants, and wants and will give very little in return. I cannot dry her nose all the time - wish she would grow up and stand her ground!
@ronnalee (43)
28 Dec 12
As you can't force someone to help themselves, and this has been going on for a long time, I'd say just stick by her. Offer her a judgement-free, safe space to talk, and don't say "I told you so" if it happens again. Leaving an emotionally abusive relationship would be best, but people find comfort in the familiar even if it's unhealthy for them. It can be hard to start over. Just make sure she knows you have her support should she need it, and maybe with time, you can make her see that she has the power to take back control in this relationship as well as in life. Also, talking to someone who went through a similar experience and came out on the other side might be helpful.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
Thanx ronnalee and Jennlee3. This is what I have been doing for so very long now... just be there and listen to her. I promise you that I am careful NOT to give advise. I'm just scared that, when they're 'happy' again, she will hold my advise against me. Perhaps I must just continue to listen.... She will have to life with what she chooses, hey.
@Jennlee3 (292)
• United Kingdom
28 Dec 12
^I completely agree. Excellent advice ronnalee.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
30 Dec 12
The better way to treat depression is comfort. Don't leave your friend, in such stage because she might be loss her mind when no one will listen to her. Because it is better to exhausted from doing something than exhausted from depression. It will sway the entire body...always listen to what she say so that you can comfort her. I suffer from depression too, due to cheating and you know I lose everything in my possession and wake up in the morning my business is down and I have no money being left. Until one day I think about the future and I promise myself to establish a business again.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
Just try to persuade her to be here on mylot so that she can share something on here and more people to give her advice and make her strong with those good words that our fellow mylotters will say.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
31 Dec 12
This whole ordeal has affected her health badly, but there's not much I can do anymore. I can only listen to her. She has indulge in overeating to her her cope... She needs to make up her mind if she really wants to carry on with a positive life.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
29 Dec 12
I know that it is hard to meddle with this kind of problem, but the only thing that I can think of is to talk to the husband and ask really what he want with his marriage. He must know what his actions has done to your friend and if she doesn't recover from her depression, she could literally die from it.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
30 Dec 12
I just hope she has the strength to really call it quits for good. Just remain a dear friend to her especially now that she is going through some terrible times.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
No, no!!! I will not talk to her husband - she also told me not to talk to him. That's why I know that she is scared of him! I do not want to get involved in that way. I think it's the wife's duty to stand on her feet for once and tell him, or throw him out!
@Dominique25 (9464)
• United States
28 Dec 12
I'm sorry to hear that your friend is under such stress.That is awful. Is there anyone else that she can talk to that she trust? Perhaps she should go to counseling to help her deal with all that is going on in her life. I feel so bad for her. That all would be very stressful. I can only imagine what she is going through. I hope she is able to get some help. She needs to start thinking about herself and her health. What is good for her.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
29 Dec 12
You know what - I told her all that stuff too. She went to a psychologist who then after the 5th session, contacted her husband to counsel them both.... Well, the husband refused to go and said to the psychologist that he does not have a problem.... His wife has problems and they must leave him alone... His wife stopped seeing the psychologist.
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• Kenya
1 Feb 13
Hi Dee777 As much as it hurts you to see your friend in pain, you cannot help her make the decision about her husband. Be there for her when she cries on your shoulder. The only rule to remember is not to get affected, just listen and let her talk and you will have done your part as a friend. There are people who stay in abusive marriages and do well in the end.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
19 Feb 13
Thank you favouredmost. You are so right. I am just listening, although it sometimes makes me very tired. I will not give her advice, because I know that she is not interested in getting any. It's her choice to stay with this man.... I will never understand it...
• Philippines
6 Mar 13
It's hard to stay in a relationship with a cheating partner for a very long time. She should not allow this situation to ruin her life. If she can't take it anymore, it's better that she leave her husband and eventually love herself more and do everything she can in order to improve everything about her. Later on, she'll realized what's most important in life is the people around her who truly cares and love he no matter what.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
7 Mar 13
Hi there. It seems as if she is too weak to make up her mind. It looks as if she is willing to stay on in this situation - I will never understand this.
• Philippines
20 Feb 13
It's a pain when you have a cheating husband. Why guys are not contended is really a mystery. Even if they married the Ms. Earth and was proclaimed the most beautiful woman on earth they still cheat. Your friend really needs to move out, she's the only one suffering whereas her husband is enjoying his life but unfortunately if something happens to the husband who is he going to run into to, of course non other than his wife. Try telling her that a lot of people are worried about her well-being and that she should not let this get in her way of living her life fully. Love is blind, I know and it's difficult to control it. If you can help her stay away from her husband be it her mother's home or her friends or maybe ask her to go somewhere where she can relax and forget the better. Find ways to distract her like what does she like to do or go, anything to get away from that good-for-nothing husband who can't seem to keep his pants up.
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
25 Feb 13
She has taken her children on two long vacations this past year, and I can just hope that things will get better for them all. This man started drinking heavily now too... perhaps this will move her to get out.