How Can This Be?

@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
February 6, 2013 5:49pm CST
Twitter Followers Threaten To Kill Talk Host And Rape Cancer-stricken Wife. But how can this be? It is the Right Wing who is violent, dangerous, intolerant and all manner of evil names according to a FBI report on Pres. Obama's desk. http://www.westernjournalism.com/thegame-twitter-followers-threaten-to-kill-talk-host-and-rape-cancer-stricken-wife/
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
7 Feb 13
Left, right, up, down... the "civilization" of human beings has not changed us one bit. We (and I am at times ashamed to include myself) revert to violence and stupidity over and over. What is sad and hard to understand is that this violence and crudity seems to be growing in the US. Has our society come to the point where it is literally falling apart? People like these "gang bangers" have been the scum, the minority - the ones hiding in the dark. Now they're out there for all to see. I don't see how anyone can justify things like this. Now for the inflammatory remarks: Unfortunately, you're right. We see more of it from the left than the right. It's the nature of the beast. Right wingers are... well, right wingers. Religious to some extent, traditionalists, patriotic. Left wingers are "progressive," non traditionalists, globally minded. I'm talking in circles, but I am worried. It's getting worse by the day.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
7 Feb 13
there will always be opposing opinions, that is human nature. But I've never seen anything like what we are seeing now. Chris Rock said Obama's like our daddy...well daddy is encouraging the uncivil discourse whether by design or by accident. Daddy, can you imagine that? He's our boss and our daddy. NOT. I believe WE THE PEOPLE are suppose to be the ones in charge. OUR WILL, not his.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
7 Feb 13
Well, you know, some daddies are abusive and manipulative, so if that's what they want... I don't. I have never seen anything like what we are now, either, but from reading history, it's the same nature as always. People are cruel to each other. Civilization has only put a thin veneer over that, then it wears off and here we are again... right back where we've always been.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
7 Feb 13
The thin veneer of civilization... like teaching right from wrong you mean? Telling kids there is definate right and there is definate wrong, instead of telling them if it feels good to you, do it? YEAH, but we can't even tell them there is a God who will judge them for doing wrong can we? And we tell them that all the great men of history were bad men, and we tell them not to trust their parents too. So, what do we expect. A couple of generations of kids hearing we can kill our unwanted babies, we don't have to respect authority, we can do what feels like it might be good cause no one is suppose to judge you for sin...and then give them mind altering medications to keep them in line....what do we expect? Schools being shot up, and parents killed.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Feb 13
hi debracarey Thats horrible but I thought evil and meanness are not restricted to left or right wings but to evil malicious people. I am naive about a lot of political stuff and stay so as I hate the arguments and meanness you and all your friends on the political interest spew., I ventured there once and gave my opinion and was called names byt you and all the others. why ?because I happen to be a democrat in a republican mylot. I do not like arguing and name calling and being told I am stupid and f ull of it so I stay away. from all of you. on the political interest as according to mos tof yo there is onloy one good anything. ,
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Feb 13
I don't call you names. Nor did I think you're stupid. You come of your own free will, you respond of your own free will. If you don't want to argue, fine...don't argue. Who is making you argue against your will? Who made you respond here? I try to be respectful of you Hatley. As for myLot being 'republican' I have to smile at that. Cause I am not a republican, and I've often thought that as a conservative I'm very outnumbered.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Feb 13
Just a thought here; Bluebell has basically called me a racist on this discussion. She doesn't know me, she doesn't know what my life experiences are, or what I think or believe. She is a liberal. I did not provoke her. I didn't start the name calling or insults. Are you going to be as angry at her for calling ME NAMES?
• United States
12 Feb 13
What about the names you called me? Really, are you now shifting the blame on me because I'm an outspoken liberal who actually cares for the well being of the country I love?! You don't know me, either, yet you claim that most of us liberals only want to take away your protective right to bear arms. All I'm saying is that the ones that feels as though their civil liberties are going to be taken away, it's not the case. In order for our country to thrive is for all of us to come together and stand some kind of common ground. Whether your democrat, republican, libertarian, or vegetarian, it all starts and stops with us as one. I'm sorry if you feel that I've insulted you, Deb. But, there have been times you've insulted me.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
12 Feb 13
How can this be? That's a good question, how can such evil, cruel people walk among us and WHY are they so evil! I'd consider this to be a very reasonable and thoughtful discussion and I'd immediately and without reservation agree with you totally that those threats are indefensible if you'd have left it at that. However...and you KNEW there would be a "however", didn't you Debra...there's a slight problem with your reasoning here. The “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” document was produced during the Bush administration and created on January 23, 2007. This Homeland Security report was actually preceded by a report produced by the Strategic Analysis Group, Homeland Environment and Threat Analysis Division of the DHS concentrated on "leftwing extremism”" (Leftwing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks over the Coming Decade). That tiny little detail was overlooked by the conservatives that went ballistic when the report first came out in 2009. For some unknown reason "the left" didn't flip out over the report about them... http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-%E2%80%9Crightwing-extremism%E2%80%9D-document-created-during-bush-administration.html These reports show there are those within our government who realize people from both the "left" and the "right" can be violent, dangerous and intolerant. There are "extremists" on both sides of the political and ideological spectrum and some of them are capable of commiting violent acts and some more are prone to being mean-spirited name calling. I'll go even further and say probably most of those who do these things aren't doing them because of any political view but just because they're nasty people and that nastiness is part of their DNA. I think each of us is a sum of many different parts. Our political leanings are just one tiny part of what we are as a total person. If someone is prone to violent behavior by nature or if they're basically intolerant or nasty, they may be more likely to be triggered by someone whose political leanings happen to be the opposite of what theirs is. In other words, I don't think people are nasty or violent because they're conservative or liberal but a violent liberal may be more inclined to attack a conservative and a violent conservative may be more inclined to attack a liberal. I'm in full agreement with our right to free speech but sometimes I think these social networks like Titter and Facebook take it a bit too far. I mean, anybody can open a Twitter or Facebook account in any name and then pretty much say anything they want to say about anyone. There's always the chance the wrong crazy person will read someone's post and take it upon themselves to act on it. Annie
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
19 Feb 13
Flower, did you see where in california the governor just paroled over 300 violent criminals...I guess california just doesn't have the money for jails...This is also true in chicago...They have the prisoners stacked up in bunk beds in the cafeterias of the prisons...
• United States
12 Feb 13
The same thing is happening right now in California with the psychotic cop killer. His 'manifesto' that he wrote on FB is headline news. I guess it's the liberal media's fault, Annie.
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