Are Americans really this stupid?

United States
April 17, 2013 2:02pm CST
Polls are showing that few Americans are worried about illegal immigrants and amnesty. They say they're more worried about the economy and unemployment. Do they really not know that these things are all connected? Most of them don't understand that once this bill passes employers must wait 90 days before they can replace American workers with illegals with ne visas. There are 20 million Americans that are unemployed or under employed. That number will grow even higher once this bill passes. The bill also says that illegals will have to pay a fine of $2000. But,they are given 10 years to pay it. What a joke!!! Once they're given citizenship they will be eligible for the same benefits that legal citizens have been paying into for years. The economy will only get worse because of the drain on our benefits and the job losses. It's too bad American citizens don't see illegals as a problem. When they start losing their jobs and the economy gets worse,I wonder who they'll blame.
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@gljcleeve (147)
18 Apr 13
I just wish you damn stupid Americans would hurry up and sort yourselves out, preferably by bringing in a programme of definately Pro-national discrimination on employment. The sooner you get round to doing this, the soner your country will be a lot better off, your unemployment will fall and the thicker than pig muck politicians here in the UK can follow your example, as they always tend to do, and together we can drag the world out of recession. You think you have it bad with your ilegals, we actually invite the in to do our jobs, and if they can't come we often send the jobs to them. Politicians, who needs them anyway?
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• Mojave, California
20 Apr 13
See mike our people our to stupid to do that, our to smart however you want to look at it. I say stupid because the more money our own people have the better it is for everyone. These people are the ones that keep immigrants coming here, by trying to be cheap. Then they blame the left wing when its their own fault. Yet the smartest right wing economists can't figure that out or the choose not to.. This day in age it so hurts to be racist and if they aren't racist then they are just not that smart literally.
18 Apr 13
Sorry to contradict you Mike but I think you'll find that the problem is so great that the Liberals were thinking of having an amnesty for illegals who have been here for more than 10 years. There are whole streets in parts of London and Birmingham that have large sheds at the bottom of the gardens that are rented out to illegals, many of whom now want to go home but can't afford it. In February it was stated that they were trying, and failing to deport 181,000 illegals and on March 22nd it was reported that Nick clegg wanted to have the fine for employing illegals double to 10,000 has that gone through already?
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
18 Apr 13
I'm not really worried about illegal immigrants. I'm downright mad about illegal immigrants being in my country. I'm tired of having to pay for these illegal immigrants. They get all the benefits from the government, for example food stamps, housing, health care. I pray that people in Congress are not that stupid to let this pass. Americans need to stand up and protest. If people of other countries can do it, surely we can to. I think before we give them rights, we need to make sure the unemployment rate is really low or is at a 0%. Send those illegals back and build a better wall.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
18 Apr 13
Of course he should help them get food stamps. A lot of them voted for him in the past election. Since a lot of states didn't check ID's and make sure you where legal and that you didn't try to vote more than once. Either way we are screwed as a country, and I find it funny. You have so many people out there are either blind and stupid. There are a lot of people like me, knows what is going on, mad about it, and can't do a darn thing about it.
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@ctryhnny (3460)
• United States
17 Apr 13
They will blame the president of course. I'm an American and can't get a job to save my life! I am very much against immigrants coming here and immediately taken care of by our (my) government when they can't take care of us sr. citizens who have worked since they were 15 years old and put money in the governments pockets. I really don't like to talk about politics so I'm stopping here. Thanks for the discussion!
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
20 Apr 13
Most of the illegals here work at jobs that Americans don't want. If they were legalized, at least they would pay taxes which would help out economy. Today we have illegals who pay no taxes, yet we have to educate their children and provide them with medical care for free. What we need to do to help our economy is to stop out-sourcing jobs to other countries. Also we need to cut down on bringing in LEGAL aliens who take jobs that could be had be Americans. I spent time learning computer networking and programming yet I couldn't get a job because I did not have the right 'accent' and couldn't lie well enough on my resume or in an interview to convince someone I had experience.
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@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
17 Apr 13
I'm totally against illegal immigrants coming here to America and getting the benefits that we as american have worked for all of our lives. How is it fair that they can just come here and get things for nothing. I know a family who came here from equador I believe legally though and the mom was able to collect social security. She never worked a day in her life in the United States. How could this be allowed. Then we wonder why Social Security is going down the drain. I can't believe that our government would be allowing this. Why are we always helping people from other countries when right here in the US there are so many people without jobs, living on streets, going to soup kitchens. It makes no sense to me. We need to fix our problems before we can afford to help others from other countries. These illegal immigrants will take our money for themselves which will deprive someone that is American from getting what they deserve.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
18 Apr 13
A pat on the back for you! I agree! Why can't we ever help ourselves...why is it always another country! I have been asking this for years...there are hungry here. There are abused, homeless etc. And if we don't keep our country strong...we won't be able to help any other country! What part of that don't this government understand!!! I can balance the budget and have a massive savings account...first...STOP ALL FOREIGN AID FOR 1 YEAR and all that money be put into this country! Second...STOP ALL EXPENSE REPORTS or "company" paid features for ALL POLITICIANS from state up to President! If all those people have to pay for their own car payment, registration, insurance,gas and maintenance for their cars, stop all "business lunches" that are so totally abused, and they have to pay for their own cell phones and anything else that is acceptable on a "expense report"... instead of us tax payers paying it for them....we'd have not only a balanced budget, but we'd have a strong, totally repaired and profitable country again. But those politicians won't do that. They vote for their own salary increase! Did you know that? Every year they hold a secession and vote yah or nah on giving them selves a pay raise! And every year, they ALL vote yah. Surprise surprise!
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
19 Apr 13
I fully agree with not helping other people until we help ourselves first. Why on earth do we have actual families struggling and such that could use help, but we are going to help everyone else in other countries? Or give them all the help they want if they want to sneak over here and have anchor babies? Just like a parent, these countries need to be cut off from funds and told to work out their own problems. No one should legally be allowed to just come here and get all the benefits they never even worked for. Social security has other reasons why it is failing like our politicians borrowing the money and then wanting to cut it instead of pay it back. Some of our debt issue is money that was taken from American citizens that they don't want to pay back. @coffeebreak: We are almost there with your plan. I agree stop all foreign aid for 2-3 years rather than 1 to truly make sure we can pay for what we need. Stop all big business/corporate subsidies, reinstate a welfare to work program, limit the amount of money a student can borrow for school such as $100,000. The schools and textbook makers will adapt their pricing or lose their students. Students can only ever borrow that much and they have to pay back the loans to go back to school. Close some of the most ridiculous tax deductions such as charity, give charity out of the goodness of your heart not to screw over the country by paying less in taxes. Definitely stop all the "expense report" b.s. Either way it is paid by the taxpayers since if it came from them they can just write it off as a business expense. I am sure they have to pay for their own car, gas, insurance and maintenance but I wouldn't be surprised if they get very very nice deals on it. Also stop them from giving themselves a pay raise, cap their pay at about 80,000, stop paying former presidents until they die, and cut out military spending by at least 100 billion and since we spend close to 700 billion on our military as opposed to China (the biggest military spender behind us) spending only 200 billion on theirs then we will be fine at 600 billion. Make campaign spending caps at 1,000,000 a piece and anything over goes back into helping the country and yes we will fix it and the road to recovery would be much faster. There are other smaller things to fix but those can be budgeted properly too.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
17 Apr 13
It is the way the pollster word it...Most of us are that smart, except for those for amnesty. The democrat party was for the working man, now they want to give the work to the other countries. These are the stupid ones. So it makes me want to say to every one that voted democrat, why???? Big labor voted democrat and they want to give away your jobs. WAKE UP!!!!
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
18 Apr 13
I don't understand why labor votes Democrat. My husband is in construction...40 years now. And he has NEVER worked while a democrat was president. And they voted for Obama who crushed the biggest construction job in decades! Yet they voted for him. I agree...WHY and WAKE UP!!!
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
19 Apr 13
This is why I am working to try to help straigthen up the the Republican party. It needs a cleaning and straighten up. I am about ready to think another party is in order, where the good ones move over to it, and tell the rest to go to ....and that they surely cannot do it without, and we will build momentum and straighten things up. Many people who voted democrats are not happy with their party either, but just haven't figured everything out yet. They have good values and are voting democrat, because they don't agree with the republican party, and may move over to a 3rd party.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
19 Apr 13
The republicans aren't any better. They also want to send jobs to cheaper places to get them done. I know plenty of construction workers with work and great paying work. I don't understand why anyone would seriously vote for EITHER party. You either get laid off or get your wages cut because businesses can operate and ship here for a lot cheaper than it is to hire Americans. Republicans do it. Democrats do it. As long as you keep voting for the problem, you will have problems. We could have a democratic president and a republican vice president or vice versa and we would still be getting screwed over. You two want to tell people to "wake-up"? [b] If you haven't woken up to see all politicians are destroying this country regardless of republican and democrat, you have no right to tell them to wake up. You have not woken up either. [/b] STOP THINKING ONE SIDE IS WORKING FOR YOU. NEITHER DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE COUNTRY. THEY ALL JUST WANT YOUR VOTES SO THEY CAN GET THEIR PAYCHECKS.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Apr 13
oneidmnnster; just a damned minute. I am an American and that really tees me off,.I am not stupid at all but this so called bill has not been touted to the public so maybe a lot of us just did not know about it.walk softlhy here in mulot land whilecalling A mericans stupid.gr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
17 Apr 13
I see them as a problem. I also realize as an American that these things are connected. I mean I once heard illegal mexican immigrants can take their citizenship test in Spanish if they managed to avoid getting deported for 20 years. Whether or not that was the truth, it still is a lot of b.s. The sad part is both sides of our joke for a government will agree to this is for nothing more than to try and sway voters to vote for them so they can all keep receiving paychecks while most Americans are still trying to find jobs. On top of that, they would probably get more school benefits too which hurts the natural born citizens because they need the assistance to go to school to get these jobs. Most jobs now seem to want people to hold some kind of degree even if the field is not what they studied. Most Americans however will just blame the president because well it's the president and they need to blame stuff on him. I tend to blame our congress more than any president but even then it is pointless. I am 100% against illegal immigrants coming here or granting them amnesty. Whose bright idea was it to grant them amnesty? I know it didn't happen in the last twenty years. What president had that bright idea? I have nothing against immigrants, but come here legally. Our congress should be ashamed of themselves for even thinking of praising people for breaking the law, but then again they also do it for businesses and such.
• Serbia
17 Apr 13
We can expect bad bad things to happen in the next few years. This isn't only an American problem, it's also European. So we can expect revolutions and war i think soon. Guess who is going to be on the losing end. The blacks have Africa, whites are discriminated, killed, gang-bangedX. The Arabs have the Middle East, whites discriminated etc etc. The Asians have their countries. And the Whites have a mix of everything in their countries, so when it blows up, i expect the white people to be slaughtered by the millions by their not so friendly multicultural friends with no exit route...Btw, im white... Maybe the Europeans will seek refuge in the Balkans, although after all they have done to the Balkans, i don't think it's going to be a very warm welcome...