The True Gnostic Gospel: No One Knows Anything (ESPECIALLY Not Bible-Believers)!
@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
April 18, 2013 9:08am CST
Thoughts?
That's not the "Gnostic Gospel" of the disciples of Jesus http://search.mylot.com/search.aspx?t=web&k=Gnostic+Gospel but it's the overall 'Gnosis' (Greek: "knowledge") that 'trumps' any "truth" you hear which you know can't be true ...
like 'that Heaven is a place' when you know that Heaven is only the optimal, perfect way to perceive ANY place.
I've had to fall back on this Gnosis when reading Christians' writings that are just wrong-out-loud: one writes that the body, soul & spirit are THREE SEPARATE ORGANS (which they are not! the best explanation I've heard of it is 'the lightbulb': the Spirit is the electricity, the body is the bulb, and the soul is the light that comes from the bulb when you let the electricity flow through it);
several write about 'your prayers' making any difference to G*d---NO THEY DON'T! They make a difference to YOU & -to anybody (OTHER THAN G*D) who hears you make them, but G*d 'already knows your prayers before you make them' (according to Jesus) and has already supplied all your prayers along the path of His will.
But another Gnosis is that 'humans are Father G*d's plow-animals'---we don't really CARE what His goals are, as long as obedience leads us to the trough with the best water &/or hay. If 'believing whatever understandings church-leaders pass along' will help us get to the "nosh," that's what we need to do 
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@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
18 Apr 13
1. How do you know that heaven is not a place?
2. I've never heard a Christian say that the body, soul and spirit are three different organs. Can you tell me what group of Christians made that claim?
3. What makes you think prayers don't make a difference to God besides His already knowing what our prayers and needs are?
4. So, if being obedient to God does no good, what works? What are we suppose to do?
5. Are you willing to tell us your religious or nonreligious background? I ask because I'm curious about where you're coming from.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
18 Apr 13
1. When Jesus was living, He told people that "the kingdom of Heaven is at hand." What did you think that meant, except that 'this could BE Heaven if everyone conformed to Heaven's laws' (what it means to me).
2. Well, I don't want to accuse anyone. So I'll tell you he's a Prosperity Gospel preacher who wrote that 'three separate organ'-idea (not in those words) in his April 2013 monthly-letter.
He wrote that "... our Father created us: spirit first, then soul, and then body." (which is blatantly wrong---the right way? He gathered the body together, breathed (esprit) into it, and it BECAME a soul ... he says the 'soul' is only "mind, will & emotions," but NONE of those exist without the body or the spirit!)
3. What else is there to make me think prayers don't make a difference to G*d?
4. Where did I say obedience does no good?
5. Yes, yes I am. But I gotta go, so I'll give you the short version: born-&-raised Roman Catholic, got kicked out of the Roman Catholic family-matrix, and am forced to see 'how that matrix doesn't mesh with the world's matrix' while I wait for some girl to graft me back into the family.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
18 Apr 13
Hi mythociate, I certainly agree with you that heaven is the perfect way to perceive any place. I agree too that our prayers make no difference to God but only to us. God does not have a body of flesh and blood like us, neither is God separate from his creation. In my opinion we are all one, but just at different points in our spiritual evolution. We must all eventually come to a knowledge of the truth, whether it is in this lifetime or even on this planet or maybe in another dimension. Blessings.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
18 Apr 13
if--by "knowledge of the truth"--you mean something like 'satisfaction with a reasonless existence' 
I'm right there with ya.
I'm right there with ya.