What do prayer, coffee enemas and cannabis have in common?
By Boingboing
@boiboing (13147)
Northampton, England
November 2, 2015 3:53pm CST
One of my best buddies is a woman called Karen whom I met online in a thyroid cancer forum nearly 5 years ago. I've been very fortunate that mine was cut out, zapped and has behaved ever since. She was not so lucky and has an incurable variant. Between us we've lived through a number of different forums and today, whilst we spoke on the phone, we addressed one of her pet issues - miracle cures and what rubbish they are.
She's an atheist but please don't let that put you off reading if you're not as you may be surprised by her conclusions.
She recently got exasperated with the behaviour of people on a Facebook page belonging to one of the biggest British cancer research charities. The cause of her annoyance was all the confident claims people make for 'cures' and the examples she picked were cannabis and prayer. I added coffee enemas because they were always touted by one of the American forums we used to hang out on. My urge was always to tell people where they could 'stick' that particular idea.
Apparently on this group she's been upset by people are always getting into fights. There are people mouthing off about how 'big pharma' don't want to cure cancer and are withholding drugs because 'cancer is good for business'. The same people then trot out wheatgrass, cannabis and all manner of hokum treatments as alleged cures. All seem to miss the point that there is no 'cure of cancer' because cancer is many very different diseases with very different causes and treatments.
Although my friend is not religious, we both agreed that cannabis, coffee up the bum and prayer were all were equally unlikely to actually cure you, but at least the prayer might make people 'feel' calmer and less stressed and their couldn't be too much harm in it but she really wishes that people would stop telling her that they'll 'pray for her'.
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@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
2 Nov 15
I think the perception is you have cancer and are getting treatment or you are cured, my uncle recently opened my eyes about this as he has leukemia. I thought he had beating it and was better, and he said no he's beating it for now, but it's still there and could come back. I think there needs better education about it as a whole. As for the "cures" well at least they make you both laugh, and that's supposed to be the best me medicine x
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@boiboing (13147)
• Northampton, England
3 Nov 15
The problem is that it's devastating when it DOESN'T work and can leave people thinking 'even God (or whoever) doesn't want me to get better'. Faith in yourself moves more mountains!


@Tampa_girl7 (54716)
• United States
3 Nov 15
@boiboing I wish her well. That is wonderful that she has good treatment.
@boiboing (13147)
• Northampton, England
3 Nov 15
@Tampa_girl7 She stuck up for herself and when she realised her doctor didn't follow the right protocols she requested a transfer and aimed straight for the best place in the country. Thank goodness for the NHS.
@Sheilamarie78 (2586)
• Canada
4 Nov 15
People say a lot of bonkers things because they really don't know what to say. There have been a lot of cases where alternative methods really have made a difference and when you're sick, you want to try them. On the other hand, many people have very good results with chemo, while others die from the complications. I don't poo poo either way of treating cancer because even the doctors admit that they don't really know how to cure cancer. It does bother me when a person hearing you have cancer starts the barrage of questions of why you came down with that, practically blaming you and insinuating that you must have done something wrong.That seems insensitive, but probably comes from their own fears about the randomness of the disease and their attempts to avoid it.

@Sheilamarie78 (2586)
• Canada
4 Nov 15
@boiboing Although there are some things you can do to minimize your chances, whether or not you get cancer is still rather random. Often there's no traceable reason, except for the fact that our environment is poisoned.
@boiboing (13147)
• Northampton, England
4 Nov 15
@Sheilamarie78 Rephrase that - often there is no reason at all. It's just the luck of the draw. Cancer isn't one thing - it's hundreds of diseases and each has different causes and different degrees of preventability. To tell people that they can avoid it is conversely telling them that when they get it, it's somehow their fault.

@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
4 Nov 15
Sometimes , when a person believes contrary to what other believes , we just have to conform to that belief , like not saying to pray for her , because she's an atheist .
@epiffanie (11327)
• Australia
3 Nov 15
I don't believe in prayers either. Those who believe and pray for cures and didn't get cured just calmly accept what they call "God's will" ..
@spleendingo1 (799)
• Grand Haven, Michigan
3 Nov 15
As an atheist, I agree. But my initial answer to your question was "Things I have done within an hour of each other while stoned". Like, smoke some weed, stick a tube up my butt and then pray the emergency room workers won't laugh when they try to get it out lmao 

@TheHorse (238337)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 Nov 15
I don't like the idea of people "politicizing" such discussions. As for prayer, I believe it can be helpful if the person is religious. As you suggest, it can make the person feel calmer. If it makes them feel calmer, it's lowering their cortisol levels. Cortisol is bad for T-cells, which are involved In fighting infection. So prayer might help some, even if the explanation is ultimately physiological.











