Burning The American Flag?
@RichardMeister (5328)
Otis Orchards, Washington
December 3, 2016 1:46pm CST
President-elect Trump has stated any American caught burning the American flag should face punishment. However, the United States Supreme Court has ruled burning the flag is a form of free speech and therefore cannot be a punishable crime. It’s not likely Trump will be able to outlaw the burning of the American flag.
I had always thought the first American flag consisted of thirteen red and white strips with thirteen stars in a circle with a blue background in the upper left hand corner of the flag. My A Book of Days in American History tells me differently.
On December 3, 1775, the first official American flag was raised on the naval vessel Alfred. This flag had thirteen red and white stripes but with St. George and St. Andrew crosses on it. No mention of any stars.
I don’t know if I had learned this and had forgotten it, but I know why I would have thought the flag with the thirteen stars in a circle was the first flag. It is shown more often than any other flag from the early days of the United States. It is seen in movies about the early days of the United States. It is the flag most often displayed as the earliest of American flags. Of course the flag has change over the years by the adding of a new star every time a new state joined the union. It now has fifty stars and thirteen red and white stripes.
There are occasions when the American flag should be burnt. I learned at an early age that if the flag touches the ground it is supposed to be destroyed by burning it. Once the flag touches the ground it is consider soiled.
Some other rules I learned about the American flag. In the United States the American flag should always fly higher than any other flag on display. If more than the American flag is on display, not only should the American flag fly higher but it should also be display in the middle of the flags. If the flag is to being flown after dark there is to be a spotlight shining on it.
I have never burnt or been involved in any burning of the American flag. Have you?
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Dec 16
When I think of first flag, I think of Betsy Ross - and certainly images of her holding up a flag with red and white stripes with the blue and circle of stars. I never thought about previous flags, but surely there must have been before the final design was approved. No flag burning here - that'd be complete disrespect to the country I live in.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Dec 16
@RichardMeister Oh man, and here I was so proud to remember a piece of history
. I guess she was a real person but the facts are iffy. Perhaps the striped flag with the circle of stars is the first memorable American flag that stuck.
. I guess she was a real person but the facts are iffy. Perhaps the striped flag with the circle of stars is the first memorable American flag that stuck.1 person likes this
@RichardMeister (5328)
• Otis Orchards, Washington
4 Dec 16
The Betsy Ross story is pretty funny. Most historians will tell you Betsy Ross did not sow the first flag. It's a story akin to the George Washington story of him chopping down the cherry tree. Historians believe those stories where made up to put them in a favorable light.
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@RichardMeister (5328)
• Otis Orchards, Washington
5 Dec 16
@much2say There is no official documents of such an event and it was never mention anywhere until her grandson wrote about it two generations after it was supposed to have happened.
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@yukimori (10192)
• United States
3 Dec 16
I've never been involved in anything like that, but I've begun contemplating the possibility of incorporating it as an element in some of my fine art photography in the relatively near future.
I feel obligated to point out that the idea makes me uncomfortable as hell, and it's not something I would do lightly. It would be because I want to create works of art that make the viewer really think about what they're looking at, feel some of that discomfort I myself feel at the thought of burning the flag. It would be done to evoke a very specific reaction from the audience... and really, my skills are nowhere near where I need them to be to create such a work now, so there would be no point in doing it now. Maybe down the road a bit.
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@RichardMeister (5328)
• Otis Orchards, Washington
3 Dec 16
I understand what you are saying. Hopefully that is what it would evoke in your audience.
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@noni1959 (13047)
• United States
4 Dec 16
I think if someone is burning it to be vicious and angry, then they should be deported out of the country even if they were born here. I know we have free speech but if you hate your country, get out. You are being disrespectful to all who have fought for our freedom.





