Stop Blaming Mental Illness!!!
@chrissbergstrom (10767)
Banks, Oregon
August 8, 2019 7:09pm CST
I am so sick of hearing the narrative by Trump and other Media blaming solely mental illness on why they horrible atrocities took place, with young men becoming mass murderers in El Paso and Dayton!
Calling these psychopaths mentally ill is an insult to all those suffering from true mental illnesses, most people suffering from a mental illness are non-violent individuals, and more likely to hurt themselves than anyone unknown to them......
To quote an amazing article on the subject "Mental illness is certainly a problem in this country. But hate is not a mental illness. Neither is murder. Our patients, friends, and family members with mental illness deserve better than to be America’s scapegoat."
Point is these people are warped this way by how they have been raised, by words they see in the media by people they grow to idolize, there extremism is all behavior, but calling them mentally ill is wrong, if these people we're mentally ill they would all be getting the psyche defense and not serving major time in prison or being out to death like they should be for these horrible acts.
Here is a link to the full article i quoted from.
After repeated exposure to a piece of information, people will start assuming it’s true, whether or not it actually is, simply because they’ve heard it...
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@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
9 Aug 19
I totally agree with you. I believe these murderers are basically white nationalists who feed on hate. It would certainly help to tone down mistrust of immigrants and minorities and love our neighbors as ourselves. Also we don't need weapons of mass destruction in the hands of citizens.They should be reserved for the military and police force.
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@chrissbergstrom (10767)
• Banks, Oregon
9 Aug 19
Yes, i just wish people could spread more love than hate. Watching the media all i am constantly reminded of is how much people hate each other and fear each other..... it's sad.
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@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
10 Aug 19
@chrissbergstrom That would be my wish. That we have peace on earth and love out neighbors as ourselves..
@Ghosthere2 (891)
• United States
10 Aug 19
Wow. I am not sure what you are saying. There are many people who are mentally ill and not violent. The mentally ill people who are violent are a danger to society. In my opinion a mentally balanced person would not be involved as a mass shooter. There are all different kinds of illnesses and issues.
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@sissy15 (12636)
• United States
10 Aug 19
That's my thoughts on it too. Mentally ill doesn't mean having a specific disorder it could mean having your mind warped at a young age. No sane person would shoot up anyone. I feel like there are different types of mental illness and a lot of these mentally disturbed people know exactly what they're doing so, in my opinion, it doesn't count for an insanity plea. For me, an insanity plea would mean a person with a known or soon diagnosed mental disorder that snapped not someone who had their brains warped at a young age and knew what they were doing or had planned it out. You can be mentally ill and also aware of exactly what you're doing. I'm not talking about a mentally ill person who has lost their sense of reality which to me is what it would take to get an insanity plea. I feel like if you have a healthy mind you wouldn't want to kill anyone. There's something there that has been messed up along the way.
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@Deepizzaguy (122232)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
9 Aug 19
You have a good point since these killers just decided to disobey God's law of never killing another person.
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@teamfreak16 (43640)
• Denver, Colorado
9 Aug 19
I have mental illness (Bipolar and PTSD, along with depression and anxiety,) I play video games and watch violent movies. I've never had the urge to go shoot up a place of worship or store. I'm tired of hearing the excuses. Racism sucks.
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@chrissbergstrom (10767)
• Banks, Oregon
9 Aug 19
EXACTLY 100% Agreed i suffer from severe depression and anxiety everyday i love horror movies and video games yet never had the urge to shoot up a place, it makes me sick people suffering from mental illness are being lumped in with these psychopaths murdering do the indoctrined hatred they have developed from media and how they were raised.......
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@LindaOHio (222624)
• United States
9 Aug 19
You've made a very good point, Chris. They are giving people with mental challenges a bad name.
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@LindaOHio (222624)
• United States
10 Aug 19
@Ghosthere2 I don't think so either; but that's what they're making it look like.
@Ghosthere2 (891)
• United States
10 Aug 19
Humm, I am struggling with this one. There are many people with mental illnesses who are not violent and are in therapy. I don't think those are the ones that are typically responsible for mass shootings.
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@chrissbergstrom (10767)
• Banks, Oregon
9 Aug 19
To busy playing the blame game
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@Ladanger (14572)
• United States
9 Aug 19
@chrissbergstrom exactly they need to open their eyes
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@sissy15 (12636)
• United States
9 Aug 19
While I don't fully disagree with you I do know mental health is part of the problem. People with mental illnesses/disorders such as bipolar and schizophrenia etc. can be a danger not only to themselves but others if untreated. Part (not all) of the issue is that mental health is not taken as seriously as it should so people don't seek the help they need in fear of what others will think of them. There was an article not long ago where a grandmother reported her grandson after he admitted he was going to shoot up a hotel and she talked him into turning himself in. He wanted help and had even asked for it at some point I believe. People with certain mental illnesses can be violent and a danger to others but it's not always the cause and most people with mental disorders don't hurt others but there are some that can and do and there are plenty of people out there who don't have a mental disorder that are just twisted. That being said you aren't exactly sane if you want to murder a bunch of people because that's not normal. If people really want to blame mental disorders maybe they should work harder at actually taking it more seriously and make mental healthcare more readily available and removing the stigma that's attached to it.
What happened in Dayton was very close to home for me. One of my close friends lives there and I was happy to see he was ok. He works in a bar about ten miles from where it happened and was at work when it happened and said people were panicking at his work until they knew he was killed. That guy had a bunch of warning signs that people didn't take seriously and had they taken him seriously this may not have happened.

@sissy15 (12636)
• United States
9 Aug 19
@chrissbergstrom Not every massacre has been premediated a lot/most of them have been but not all of them. I don't agree with a psych defense unless the person truly did snap. Look at Charles Manson that man was crazy and messed with his followers minds to get them to his way of thinking. He was nuts and I don't even think he actually killed anyone but he got life in prison regardless of how insane he was. To me, there are different levels of insanity and not all of them are a specific mental disorder. I'm just saying no one with a healthy mind is going to commit murder but do I think they should get a psych defense? No. When I think psych defense I think someone who is actually diagnosed with something and does it in a spur of the moment not someone who maps it out but even those who are mentally ill can and have mapped out murders. The guy who did the Sandy Hook massacre actually had a form of autism and I want to say some other things wrong with him and while autism isn't exactly a mental illness it is a disorder and most autistic people don't have it in them to go out and massacre a bunch of first graders. To this day that is the mass shooting incident that haunts me most.
The guy who killed people in Dayton didn't plan it out beforehand but he did have a thing for violence and at one time made a kill/rape list but that had nothing to do with the murder they still don't know his motive at least the last time I looked. He had issues I mean he killed his own sister. If he had not been killed I don't think he should have gotten the insanity plea. There are messed up people in the world and what I'm saying is that they aren't sane but they definitely shouldn't get a pass for it and most often don't. I am saying that had some of these murderers been diagnosed and treated before they got to this point maybe they wouldn't have.
When you look back at these murderers and their pasts sometimes there is a link and had they gotten help at any point before they reached the point of no return and been treated for something maybe they wouldn't do what they did. No sane person shoots up others. A lot of murderers but not all come from a home where they were abused and had they gotten therapy and worked through their issues they may not have gotten to this point. What happens in your early childhood is often critical to how someone turns out. When we think mental illness we are talking about people who could have had help before they got to this point. We are talking about children who should have had therapy but didn't get it. I'm saying therapy needs to be taken seriously before a lot of people get to this point I'm not saying I think they should get the psych defense. A person with a healthy mind wouldn't have such sick thoughts. I'm talking about mental health as a whole not saying everyone who has a mental disorder is going to be crazy or think they should get a free pass. I am saying maybe if more people had access to therapy earlier in their lives it might make a small difference.








