A quick test for autism?

@TheHorse (238364)
Walnut Creek, California
October 10, 2019 10:41am CST
A couple posts ago, I mentioned an autistic kid I'll be losing soon at the preschool. I also mentioned another kid at the preschool who some thought has autism. But I thought otherwise. The quick and dirty test for autism? I don't know where I heard this, but right now I believe in its value: Sit facing the person in question. Look over their shoulder and say "What's that?" A non-autistic person will usually look in the direction you're pointing. An autistic person will not. About a week ago, I tried this test on my language-delayed (but not autistic, I believe) 2 1/2-year-old buddy when we were playing together. He immediately looked over his shoulder. "Oh it's just a truck, I said." We went back to playing. With my autistic buddy, the same "experiment" occurred this past Monday in a "naturalistic" setting. It was afternoon snack time. I was sitting next to him. Our backs were to the door. His mom and older sister came in to pick him up but chose not to interrupt his snack. Several kids said, "(kid's name) Look!" He did not turn around. They were excited for him (empathy) and said it again. He did not turn around. It appears that autistic kids' lack of ability to fully read others' nonverbal cues means that they will not make internal statements like "My friends' reaction, and pointing, are letting me know that they're excited for me, and pointing at something of interest to me, and that I should turn around." I'm going to try and do further research on this.
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@akalinus (44366)
• United States
10 Oct 19
That is a neat trick. I raised an autistic boy and never thought of doing that. A lot of the time, autism is thrown into the mentally ill category but it is a neurological disorder.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
It's still sort of a mystery to a lot of psychologists. It does run in families, but I've just started reading about "brain differences" in autistic children.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Oct 19
@akalinus My hunch is that it's genetic. Autism runs in families. But beyond that, I don't know much. I do know (from clinical experience) that you can establish relationships with autistic people if you listen well and try to figure out "their world." They appreciate it.
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@akalinus (44366)
• United States
19 Oct 19
@TheHorse He started out as multiply handicapped with heart problems and asthma along with the autism. They changed it to Autistic because I think that pays better for services.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
10 Oct 19
That is a good test. I learned a few from an attorney too, back in the day.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
What were they? What were the circumstances?
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
@andriaperry Where will she live and what will be her fate?
@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
11 Oct 19
@TheHorse I was going for the mentally ill don`t know better plea for ..... Ahem... one of my elderly tenants sold her meds for bread and bologna, got caught and I took her to meet her court ordered attorney. He said okay, lets see if the judge will believe her, he asked "was it wrong to sell your pills for food?" She said YES. He said case closed! Jail time, he said mentally incompetent will not know right from wrong. He got her off with 4 years probation.
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@maximax8 (31042)
• United Kingdom
10 Oct 19
I used to work as a primary school teacher and I had an autistic child in my class. He got very upset when the fire bell went off. I think these tests are useful. I have a disabled son and he is now at secondary school. When he was at nursery age he knew some other disabled children. One is a non verbal autistic boy and we saw him last summer when my daughter wished to go to the park.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
How is the non-verbal boy doing now? I spent some "special" time with my 2 1/2-year-old friend today who struggles with expressive language but is not autistic. He is speaking to me in four-word sentences. His words are not clear, but I can decipher them though context. I make sure he's looking at me and then repeat his words with correct pronunciation. I can see him watching my lips. His expressive language is improving dramatically.
@wolfgirl569 (136008)
• Marion, Ohio
10 Oct 19
That is an easy one to use.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
It is. But I would have to do more research (both of the literature and via personal experience) before I was confident in its reliability and validity.
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@arunima25 (93194)
• Bangalore, India
10 Oct 19
I just feel it's a wide spectrum. We do have checklists but even that can be misleading. I often say to parents and educators that you can not generalize autism. When you have met one autistic person, you have met only one.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
I treat each client as an individual. Diagnoses are necessarily for funding (and they do give hints as to what behaviors are to be expected), but I don't always take them too seriously in my work with individual kids.
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@arunima25 (93194)
• Bangalore, India
11 Oct 19
@TheHorse So do I. As an educator, I try to see the child beyond his diagnosis and tags. They build up a prejudice and we fail to see the real individual behind the tag. But yes we do need diagnosis for certain formalities.
@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
10 Oct 19
I will try that the next time I see my friend.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
Let us know what happens.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Oct 19
That's an interesting observation. I'm sure you'll glean more as you do further research.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
I hope so. Maybe I'll post about it if I get some new information.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Oct 19
@TheHorse It should prove interesting.
@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
10 Oct 19
@TheHorse Thanks for sharing that with us.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
You're welcome. I'll keepresearching this. I don't even remember my "source."
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
11 Oct 19
@TheHorse That is ok.
@LindaOHio (222806)
• United States
10 Oct 19
Interesting. I had never heard of that test.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
I had not either until a few years ago!
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@Janet357 (75638)
10 Oct 19
i will try this trick some kids here.
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
Let us know what you discover.
@crisma15 (451)
• Venezuela
10 Oct 19
wauw het lijkt een simpele test
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@TheHorse (238364)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Oct 19
It does seem very simple.