I wasn't born Yesterday
@2ndchances24 (12072)
Cloverdale, Indiana
March 6, 2026 7:46pm CST
I didn't fall off the stupid wagon last week lol, I'm no Dummy
Where did this come from? well I have a story to tell you about
how people can take you or any 1 they think they can for a fool.
How is it said they see you coming when it's in THEIR favor to
scam you any way they can & they get away with it & your stuck
with the outcome, UNLESS you think ahead of time & stop them.
So with that said, let me set the conversation up on HOW all this
started & how it all came out. So if you don't like LONG stories I'd
suggest you find another post to read, but if you DO like long
stories, then your in for a treat on HOW to stop scammers from
trying to rob you blind & taking you for a fool for letting them.
1st off I need a huge tree taken down in the back yard & since we
have had all the other trees taken out we just had this 1 that is
in a BAD place, where it's hard to get to to cut or to knock down.
I've tried to find some 1 that would do the job but to no avail hum?
well after it's been 3 yrs (right after I got out of the hosp time wise)
I finally find some 1 on F B & asked if he would be interested in
taking a look at the tree I have & see what he would hit me for.
So a few days later he comes by, takes a look at it & says that's
a nasty looking tree I can see why no 1 wants to take it down
it's HOLLOW all the way through from the bottom UP ! ! ! where
any wildlife could or has or CAN make a home in it, NO GOOD.
He takes pictures all the way around the tree, see's the area
where you can't get NO BIG machinery close to it & the hollow
holes at the base of it & tells me that it's not going to be a cheap
job & it's going to take a few days to get it down cause WHY?
It has to be climbed & cut in sections & about 3-5 guys to do it
which will take about 2-4 days, this isn't a big tree, BUT big enough
so anyway, he tells me about other trees he has worked on & how
much he charged & blah blah blah, then he says the BEST I can
do is 5.000.00$
well I knew it wasn't going to be cheap
BUT DAMN ! ! ! I told him I can't just come off that kind of $
like poof ! ! ! & we're both on a fixed income & it HAS to
come down, can you take pymts? NOPE well I'm like hum
let me work on what I can come up with & get back with you.
I told my husband the best & ONLY thing we can do is see
if the bank will give us a loan for that kind of cash with NO
collateral cause we don't have anything worth that kind of $.
Well we talked it over & went to the bank & asked if they
help us out BUT B-4 we did that I took a video of the tree
so they could see why it needed to come down & we weren't
just trying to scam them so the lady looked at our credit
report that's close to 800 looked at our income barely 3.000$
looked at what we COULD use for collateral we had nothing.
She seen the ONLY income we have coming in is our S S & VA
well after we all talked about it & she looked at the video, we
told her we would like to have it on a 3 yr pymt & not over 200$
thank god she has dealt with us over the past few yrs & knows
what we have been through over the yrs with my health & bills.
She worked up some papers & says they don't do this for every 1
& not very often with a lot of people but she didn't see no problems
in us getting the $ we needed & to come back the next day cause
she had to talk with her supervisor about it to see if it would go.
So there's that, we came back the next day & we got the $
she asked if we wanted it to go to the person doing the job or
have it put in OUR name & we pay them after the job was done?
Guess which way we went? we had the check put in our name
yep sure did, BUT we cashed it & have the $ here at home.
When I got back home I told the guy we have the $
& I made a photo of the check they gave me to show him
that we were for real & pull no punches when it comes to $
I told him we're good to go & ready when he is, so he THOUGHT.
So NOW here comes the conversation we got into on getting
the tree down & how it come out so get you a drink & a snack.
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Me >Check is in the bank. (5.000.00)
to have a massive tree cut down.
Him OK sounds good. We will finish the project that we’re
on and you will be next.
me Awesome, I sure will be glad to see it gone
Him We will get everything on a contract with all the specific
details of what we’re doing and the price we will have you to
sign and date it. You will get a copy and we will settle up by
Check if that’s what you prefer before we get started and you
will get a copy showing everything’s paid.
"THIS is where he thought he was dealing with a dummy"
me I have to keep the $ in the bank till the job is done,
cause the bank don't want any mishaps, but we can get it
the day B-4 the job is done & you can get solid green cash.
Me I hope that's o.k cause the bank don't like rip offs & to
be safe that's the only way we could have got the $ to do this.
"This was the next day cause we got in after 5pm"
Him Good morning it’s James. I am sorry that goes
against our policy for this particular type of job. I’m sorry.
Me That's crazy, people don't like getting ripped off
& they have to pay for it Which isn't fair, & the people
get a way with it ! ! ! So you have to understand it's not my
decision & like I said The $ is IN THE BANK IN GREEN
BACKS $ $ $
Him Nobody should ever be ripped off or treated unfair.
Everything that we do is done by contract so everything
is on paper and signatures when we do projects, it’s just
a policy put in place many decades ago by my father on
particular jobs like this that are emergency class three
by our standards that they have to have full payment
upfront or half upfront at our discretion.
I assure you every job that we do throughout the week
and month it’s not the same scenario, but we required
deposits and clean it up from that is not an everyday scenario
We put everything on paper to help protect both parties.
me It's going to take us 3 yrs to pay off the loan At 200 $
a month with INTEREST & to get ripped off just cause they
can & there's nothing we can do about it isn't right.
Him I will talk to the office about this particular scenario
I assure you, I do not want you to get "rid of stuff" by anybody
This how he wrote what you are looking at Above. rid of stuff
You and your project is important to me
Me O.k then, That sounds more like it, That we can do, we're
not going any where.
Him You are more than welcome to call me. I have about
10 minutes before I get to my appointment.
Me We can't trust any 1 after all the times we've been taking
granted of. So if we can get this done YOU HAVE MY WORD ! ! !
you will get PAID.
Him Yes, I understand it is hard and I’m sorry that something
has happened to you in the past. That’s why we do everything
on contract of any size, legal binding contract with dates and
signatures to ensure that our customers feel safe.
Me Yea We've been taken from the same way with contracts
& that's why we had to do the whole remodel on the cabin cause
people say they were safe & took our $ just to never show up again.
I'm not saying you would be like that but I just can't take that
chance & risk everything we have including our marriage.
Me I'll be here when you have an answer.
Him I’ve discussed this with my son and we’re gonna go
ahead and do this for you. We will write up the paperwork
and a contract which it protects you as well, and we will have
you to sign and date it before we start and you can pay us
on the second day, because it will take us two days to
complete. It will be one day next week before we start
possibly Tuesday or so.
So you see how his attitude changed after I told him the
$ has to stay in the bank till the job was done? & how he
made it right just to get the job & the $ ? yeah he found out
I'm 1 that won't bow down till they come to my TERMS.
That's how you deal with people on ANY job you want
to get done, we have the $ right here at the house, but HE
doesn't know that, & he won't till the job is started & DONE.
I'm tired of people thinking they can rip people off & get away
with it & take us for a fool & enjoy our hard to come by income.
So you think about who your dealing with & listen real close
how they talk & their actions & tell them you need to talk it over
with your spouse or your bank & get SOMETHING in writing
& take photos of what you need done & have the BANK check
them out, & NEVER hand ANY 1 cash till they do the job.
Thank you for sticking around to the end, I hope you learned
something by learning from the way I handle business.
well I knew it wasn't going to be cheap
BUT DAMN ! ! ! I told him I can't just come off that kind of $
like poof ! ! ! & we're both on a fixed income & it HAS to
come down, can you take pymts? NOPE well I'm like hum
let me work on what I can come up with & get back with you.
I told my husband the best & ONLY thing we can do is see
if the bank will give us a loan for that kind of cash with NO
collateral cause we don't have anything worth that kind of $.
Well we talked it over & went to the bank & asked if they
help us out BUT B-4 we did that I took a video of the tree
so they could see why it needed to come down & we weren't
just trying to scam them so the lady looked at our credit
report that's close to 800 looked at our income barely 3.000$
looked at what we COULD use for collateral we had nothing.
She seen the ONLY income we have coming in is our S S & VA
well after we all talked about it & she looked at the video, we
told her we would like to have it on a 3 yr pymt & not over 200$
thank god she has dealt with us over the past few yrs & knows
what we have been through over the yrs with my health & bills.
She worked up some papers & says they don't do this for every 1
& not very often with a lot of people but she didn't see no problems
in us getting the $ we needed & to come back the next day cause
she had to talk with her supervisor about it to see if it would go.
So there's that, we came back the next day & we got the $
she asked if we wanted it to go to the person doing the job or
have it put in OUR name & we pay them after the job was done?
Guess which way we went? we had the check put in our name
yep sure did, BUT we cashed it & have the $ here at home.
When I got back home I told the guy we have the $
& I made a photo of the check they gave me to show him
that we were for real & pull no punches when it comes to $
I told him we're good to go & ready when he is, so he THOUGHT.
So NOW here comes the conversation we got into on getting
the tree down & how it come out so get you a drink & a snack.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Me >Check is in the bank. (5.000.00)
to have a massive tree cut down.
Him OK sounds good. We will finish the project that we’re
on and you will be next.
me Awesome, I sure will be glad to see it gone
Him We will get everything on a contract with all the specific
details of what we’re doing and the price we will have you to
sign and date it. You will get a copy and we will settle up by
Check if that’s what you prefer before we get started and you
will get a copy showing everything’s paid.
"THIS is where he thought he was dealing with a dummy"
me I have to keep the $ in the bank till the job is done,
cause the bank don't want any mishaps, but we can get it
the day B-4 the job is done & you can get solid green cash.
Me I hope that's o.k cause the bank don't like rip offs & to
be safe that's the only way we could have got the $ to do this.
"This was the next day cause we got in after 5pm"
Him Good morning it’s James. I am sorry that goes
against our policy for this particular type of job. I’m sorry.
Me That's crazy, people don't like getting ripped off
& they have to pay for it Which isn't fair, & the people
get a way with it ! ! ! So you have to understand it's not my
decision & like I said The $ is IN THE BANK IN GREEN
BACKS $ $ $
Him Nobody should ever be ripped off or treated unfair.
Everything that we do is done by contract so everything
is on paper and signatures when we do projects, it’s just
a policy put in place many decades ago by my father on
particular jobs like this that are emergency class three
by our standards that they have to have full payment
upfront or half upfront at our discretion.
I assure you every job that we do throughout the week
and month it’s not the same scenario, but we required
deposits and clean it up from that is not an everyday scenario
We put everything on paper to help protect both parties.
me It's going to take us 3 yrs to pay off the loan At 200 $
a month with INTEREST & to get ripped off just cause they
can & there's nothing we can do about it isn't right.
Him I will talk to the office about this particular scenario
I assure you, I do not want you to get "rid of stuff" by anybody
This how he wrote what you are looking at Above. rid of stuff
You and your project is important to me
Me O.k then, That sounds more like it, That we can do, we're
not going any where.
Him You are more than welcome to call me. I have about
10 minutes before I get to my appointment.
Me We can't trust any 1 after all the times we've been taking
granted of. So if we can get this done YOU HAVE MY WORD ! ! !
you will get PAID.
Him Yes, I understand it is hard and I’m sorry that something
has happened to you in the past. That’s why we do everything
on contract of any size, legal binding contract with dates and
signatures to ensure that our customers feel safe.
Me Yea We've been taken from the same way with contracts
& that's why we had to do the whole remodel on the cabin cause
people say they were safe & took our $ just to never show up again.
I'm not saying you would be like that but I just can't take that
chance & risk everything we have including our marriage.
Me I'll be here when you have an answer.
Him I’ve discussed this with my son and we’re gonna go
ahead and do this for you. We will write up the paperwork
and a contract which it protects you as well, and we will have
you to sign and date it before we start and you can pay us
on the second day, because it will take us two days to
complete. It will be one day next week before we start
possibly Tuesday or so.
So you see how his attitude changed after I told him the
$ has to stay in the bank till the job was done? & how he
made it right just to get the job & the $ ? yeah he found out
I'm 1 that won't bow down till they come to my TERMS.
That's how you deal with people on ANY job you want
to get done, we have the $ right here at the house, but HE
doesn't know that, & he won't till the job is started & DONE.
I'm tired of people thinking they can rip people off & get away
with it & take us for a fool & enjoy our hard to come by income.
So you think about who your dealing with & listen real close
how they talk & their actions & tell them you need to talk it over
with your spouse or your bank & get SOMETHING in writing
& take photos of what you need done & have the BANK check
them out, & NEVER hand ANY 1 cash till they do the job.
Thank you for sticking around to the end, I hope you learned
something by learning from the way I handle business.2 people like this
2 responses
@noni1959 (12950)
• United States
7 Mar
We just went through a lot of "draws" from the bank we had to approve for work done on the property. Most banks want to see the work done and they release the funds. It's better to deal directly that way and then it helps make sure it's done right. We are looking to get a huge cedar out and it will cost us $2K just to fell it. If they chop, clean, and haul, it's another grand. My son said just take it down, we will saw and clean it up. With prices going up with fuel etc. we expect cost to go up if we don't do it now.
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@2ndchances24 (12072)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
7 Mar
Yea it's crazy people think we can just throw $ at them
like we own a bank, good luck with the tree.
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@noni1959 (12950)
• United States
9 Mar
@2ndchances24 Thank you. It's a lot to be done still but once that tree is gone, we can do a huge portion in a couple days.
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@2ndchances24 (12072)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
9 Mar
@noni1959 same here, with the tree we have once it's out of the way
we can get rid of a bunch of leaves & do something with the old dog
pen area & clean the area up where it doesn't look so trashy.
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@LindaOHio (220330)
• United States
7 Mar
I would have gotten at least one other estimate too. You have to be so careful with these contractors. That's why I get mine off the BBB website. I'm glad you were careful.
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@LindaOHio (220330)
• United States
8 Mar
@2ndchances24 It's ridiculous for them to charge that much.
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@2ndchances24 (12072)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
8 Mar
@LindaOHio I agree but just think what it would
cost if it fell on a structure like your house or work
shed with all your tools & stuff in it, what would
THAT cost to replace ? so yea, it's not cheap.
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@2ndchances24 (12072)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
8 Mar
I've tried to get other estimates & there anywhere b-tween 10,000 & UP
that's why it's taken so long to get someone to do the job.
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