Do people know how to tip a server and why they should?

@kbkbooks (7028)
Canada
December 4, 2006 6:24pm CST
One thing that really makes me upset is when I see that people in a food establishment doesn't tip their server. These people work on their feet and literally run to make the customers happy. Generally they work for minimum wage, and some states even allow them to work for LESS than minimum because their tips are supposed to make up for the difference. It is only fitting that you tip your server at least 15%. A more generous tip is fitting in a classier eating establishment. Show your server that you appreciate what she or he has done for you, especially if it's very good service. If it's normal to poor service, try not to go below 10% minimum. If the server is rude, that's the only time I will leave NO tip at all. Generally, it's rude to leave pennies for a tip or as part of the tip. It is considered an insult to the server.
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269 responses
• Austria
5 Dec 06
What i can say is that it all depends on the quality of service the server is giving to me. I dont really care which establishment i am, as long as the server is nice then i will give tip. I've been to many restaurants and some are really scary servers. How can I give tip to somebody who doesnt even smile to to somebody who ignores me. The quality of service for me is a big factor for this tipping subject.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Well said.
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• China
5 Dec 06
Yeah, good quality service deserves good tip. bad quality deserves nothing. for those people who peovide us with quality service. they should be tipped fairly.
• United States
5 Dec 06
interesting :)
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@imadriscoll (2230)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I used to be a waitress while in college so I know what it's like to get stiffed for working my butt off. I hated people who left pennies too. I always try to tip as much as I feel is fit. Sometimes this is 20% or more. Though there are also times when I don't feel like a server deserves a tip at all. If you're rude or lazy it's not my responsibility to make sure that you get paid. Like any job you get paid for doing the job well. If you're talking to your friends or co-workers instead of filling my drink or while my food is getting cold ... forget it! Also just as a tip to get more tips ... talk to my kids and tell me they're cute! I'm a sucker for that!
@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I agree. A friendly waitress or waiter deserves a higher tip than one who simply does her job and that's all.
• United States
5 Dec 06
Absolutely agree with the tip thing. I grew up in Vegas so maybe that's why it's prevalent to me. Personally I'm a 30 percenter as far as restaurant servers. If the service is lacking I'll still throw down 20%. I'm a regular at many establishments so the next time they'll be on their toes. Could just be having a bad day. Tip everyone from the computer tech to the cable guy. My husband thinks I'm ridiculous. I figure hey - if the work was executed in an efficient manner that makes my day that much easier.
@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I agree with what you are doing. Keep it up.
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5 Dec 06
It annoys me that people expect to receive a tip. They choose to work in the place and accept the wages they get. Nobody HAS to tip anyone and all these waiting staff should get it out of their head that they deserve it. I have worked as a waitress and I never expected it.
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• United States
5 Dec 06
I am in complete agreement with this comment. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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@grandbbq (154)
• United States
8 Dec 06
Well actually the wage paid is presented as somuch per hour plus tips. Also moet restaurants will make you claim a certain percentage as your tips so you will be taxed om that amount. So if you sold $200 in food you would be expected to clam at least 8% of that amout as tips. the U.S. IRS sets that rule. It was not alway like that. so if you did not make the 8% in tips you will still be paying income tax on that 8% regardless. Some people have no clue
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
12 Dec 06
I can't understand why people who eat out as a habit don't get it. But I guess there is just no accounting for some people's ignorance, it's the way of the world.
@iluvujoy (311)
• Philippines
5 Dec 06
Money is nothing... - Money is nothing...to serve people is everything. Filipinos are like that. We are so hospiatble and entertaining to anybody. Proud to be Pinoy...
Here in the Philippines, we do not necessarily give tips to the server. It is not really in our culture. But if it is in our culture, I will surely gave a fair tip to the server. As a Filipino, it is our pleasure to serve people. We do not need any tip.
• United States
7 Dec 06
Sorry but I have served many Filipinos. You are by far one of the worst tippers out there. I suppose it could be because of your culture. How do you explain the behavior? You eat like pigs and let your children make huge messes. Most of the time you complain about the bill! Just because you don't need a tip, does that give you the right to make the biggest mess you can possible make? Are you going to blame that on your culture too? For ever race/country there are certain standards. If you live in the US, you should follow the customs established here. If you live in other countries, you should follow the customs there. Education and experience is the only excuse for tipping badly. If you choose to stay uneducated and ignorant, maybe that's why you get bad service. Servers remember the rude and cheap customers. If that is who you are, you should order it togo or stay home. If I was to grade tippers from worst to best: Native Americans, Blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Whites.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
9 Dec 06
Wow, Frost, she just said it's not in their culture to tip. I would guess that the way children are raised and disciplined in different places is also different. I don't think it's fair to generalize that all of a certain group are messy or noisy. That's definitely unfair.
@nishas3 (57)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I have this cool phone program that tells me how much i should tip basedc on the total cost of the food. pretty cool, huh?
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• India
5 Dec 06
actually speaking .. its no the calculations but the service of the server which decides his tip.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I will usually tip 10% if the service is mediocre. I tip 15 to 20 percent if its good or great service. If a server goes out of the way to be really tops, I tell them verbally, and usually mention it to the top brass. You shouldn't need a calculator...who can't calculate 10 or 20 percent? Go back to school, do no pass go, do not collect your diploma.
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• United States
5 Dec 06
My husband and I always leave a good tip if the service is good. We both work two jobs, his second job is pizza delivery and tips are your life. Especially when you are spending gas money like mad for your job. I've also waitressed, and in most places, they only give you the state minimum for servers for a wage, which is around $2hr! We try to show the love if someone is working hard to make our meal out a nice one. We usually give around 20% or $5 whichever is higher. We always give $1 when we get a coffee from Starbucks as well. :O)
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
You sound like wonderful people. I am going to find you and get a waitressing job where you eat! hahaha.
@micheller (1365)
• United States
5 Dec 06
i agree that it is wrong to not leave a tip. the only time i wouldn't leave one is when the waiter is being rude, then they don't deserve it.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Good reasoning. Thanks for your comments.
@hizzle13 (644)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I'm a waitress, and unless the server is completely rude or never around, i'm an awesome tip. i always overtip. I've been lucky, though, I usually get great service.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
9 Dec 06
I think from my own experience and the people I know who do work in food service, the ones who work the industry are usually the best tippers.
@Desdemona (1305)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Yup, it totally depends of the service. I hardly tip, unless I receive good service. Meaning, the server greets me nicely, is honestly showing they care about my business, will check on me reguraly, and ensure I have all the right things I need. I don't understand why people tip for poor service. Even if it is 5% of the bill! A tip means "well done, you did a great job." Tipping will encourage the server to continue to provide that level of service, regardless if it is great or bad.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Thanks for responding.
@jewel76 (2305)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Waiter plz!! - Waiter plz!!
I always leave tips, except when the service isn't good. Like if I ask him for a glass of water, and he only brings it 20 minutes later, or if I don't get the food I ordered, and he insists that's what I DID order. In those situations, i'll diminish my tip or leave none at all.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Thank you. I agree.
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@lisan22 (191)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I've never been a waiter but I used to deliver pizza, and I agree. A tip is deserved. And when your pizza is late, you have to realize that most of the time that isn't the drivers fault. I always tip my servers and drivers well, because they are allowed to pay them less than minimum wage here. My brother's fiance is a waitress and she makes $3.50/hr. Luckily she's good at it so she averages about $8.50/hr after tips. But other girls who aren't as good aren't as lucky.
@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Thanks. Good thoughts.
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@clownfish (3276)
• United States
5 Dec 06
Hi! I agree. Also, many of these servers work for less than minimum wage because they get tips, or at least they do in my area. I even tip the servers at places like Sonic where they actually have to bring the food out of the building and to your car. Tipping is important, everyone has to make a living, and these people have to work extra hard! :-)
@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
Thanks for your answer.
• United States
5 Dec 06
heh, I don't really work IN a restaurant, but I do deliver pizzas for pizza hut. In the last month, I've been stiffed (no tip at all) more than 5 times. I am always polite and haven't been late for a long time. I have also heard stories of Pizza delivery drivers getting stabbed and shot while doing their jobs frequently in different parts of the country. I'm only working to try and help pay for college, and every delivery takes gas and puts wear and tear on the car (not to mention they tax all of your tips and deduct it from your paycheck). I mean c'mon people, I'll take 2 or 3 bucks on a $40 order, but a stiff....delivery drivers have to drive through dark neighborhoods at night looking for your address, and sort of risk their own lives. At 5.15 an hour paycheck (which really just covers wear & tear on the car and some of the gas), the only real money you make is from tips. On the other hand, waiters seem to have a harder job as they interact with their guests numerous times and tend to whatever they need vs. me dropping off a pizza and returning to the store to do dishes. Therefore, I agree with the 15% for waiters, its only fair.
@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I agree with you. You deserve your tips.
• United States
5 Dec 06
I don't think there is anything wrong with tipping. I do however think it's silly that it is expected or people who tell other people to do the tipping. I'll tell you why I feel that way. Why should I give people money for doing their job? I know people say they get paid low and the tips are suppose to make up the difference. Why should I have to make up the difference for it though? Lets do some simple math. One waiter can help lets say 5 tables in one hour. That's bring drinks and food and making sure everything is OK. If the person gets paid $3.50 an hour and each table elaves $2 that's a total of $13.50 an hour for just bring food and drinks. That's better then what I was getting paid as a farmer. Who actually provided the food for the table that you sat at. So when should I be expecting my tip from you guys to make up the differencce? I know not everyone leaves a tip and that was just an example. There is also the other argument that if they don't like the pay, go get another job. I know that's easyier said then done but it is an option. If they like serving people,then they could get a job ata fast food place. My ex made $11.50 an hour working at Burger King (if I remember right). She was a night manager but she still got min wage when she started out at counter. Here is another one. What about places that say "We have added 15% gratuity". They are forcing you to leave a tip even if the service is terriable. So what about places liek that? Like I said, I'm not opposed to leaving a tip. I usally do except at buffets, because all the people do there is bring you drinks and take you plates (sometimes). I (we) do tip if we know the person or they were exceptionaly good. I just hate the whinning about it.
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• United States
5 Dec 06
In my state you get paid 2.65 an hour for being a waitress. And yes if you like seving people there are other options. But to say if you like serving people go work at burger king, Being a waitress is no where clse to the same thing as working at a fast food joint. I've done both and there is no way that there comparible. About the 15% tip added, usually those are on parties of 8 or more in my experiance. If you have 8 people who each had a 20$ meal that right there is $160 , without that statement those people could leave a $5 and off they went and the waitress got screwed. Tips are not free money to your server . We do get taxed on them. Where i worked you had to claim 8% of your sales (not tips) at the end of the night. And also Your servers make or break your meal experiance. If you don't like to tip or the concept of it. Stay home.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I agree with you that places should add gratuity automatically. That overrides the purpose of showing an employee that you appreciate them.
@starr4all (2865)
5 Dec 06
There shouldn't be any automatic gratuity because then there wouldn't be an incentive to do a good job. You knew that you would get a certain percentage no matter how bad or good you are.
@crabby1 (304)
• Australia
5 Dec 06
Ordinarily we don't tip in Australia for table service. The whole process of tipping is a cop out for the employer who should be paying his employees a decent living wage. It is insulting to the customer to be expected to tip for what is normal service. You yanks started this stupid custom its up to you to abandon it
@grandbbq (154)
• United States
5 Dec 06
Ok. So the establishment will pay more. Then guess what? That $6.00 plate just went up to about $10.50 (USD). That Fosters is going up too. So now you might be paying an extra $16.00 on your check for a party of four. Hmm not bad if the server is getting a living wage. What to they pay servers down under? Stick to going through the Drive Thru so you do not have to tip. Oh wait that is a Yank idea too. LOL... Cheap S.O.B.
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@grandbbq (154)
• United States
5 Dec 06
Ok. So the establishment will pay more. Then guess what? That $6.00 plate just went up to about $10.50 (USD). That Fosters is going up too. So now you might be paying an extra $16.00 on your check for a party of four. Hmm not bad if the server is getting a living wage. What to they pay servers down under? Stick to going through the Drive Thru so you do not have to tip. Oh wait that is a Yank idea too. LOL... Cheap S.O.B.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
9 Dec 06
I can see why your name is crabby. But it's probably true that customs are different elsewhere. Just so you know, I'm not American, I'm Canadian.
@toonatoons (3739)
• Philippines
5 Dec 06
i agree, some give tips from their loose change. it's a good thing that there are food establishments here that automatically add a service charge equivalent to 10% of the amount of the food that was ordered.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
9 Dec 06
I don't think there are that many places that add service charges unless they are really high end. Even in those places, which I don't go to often, I do add a tip.
• United States
9 Dec 06
I get tickled when we go somewhere in a large group. If it's over 6 or 8 people, the restaurant usually adds on 18% for the gratuity and it is stated on their menu. It's a shame they do that in my case because I always tip at least 20% and have been known to tip up to 25% at times (exceptional service). I've even told our server (as I handed her more money) that we usually tip at least 20% and wanted to do so then.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
12 Dec 06
Doncha hate when you go somewhere with a group and it comes time to put tip on the table and someone puts down a quarter and thinks they have done their part?
@StarBright (2799)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I have a question for you KBKBOOKS. Why is your anger not directed at the stingy employers who pay minimum wage and below to hard working food establishment people? Why is your anger directed toward customers who have every right to expect top quality service every time they go into a restaurant to dine? There is evidence that tipping started as far back as the Roman Empire. The acronym TIP, To Insure Promptitude, became common in the coffeehouses of 16th century England. I think TIPS should remain an act of kindness in a world that has become too fast and rude. I put great value on service. My tips are always commensurate with the quality of the service. As Boxer George Foreman, says, “You don’t want to make me mad.” I should add that quality of service includes attitude. The server who is courteous, prompt attentive and doesn’t forget little things that I ask for like extra lemon for my tea will score bigger tips every time.
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• United States
5 Dec 06
Very well stated! And you have a very ligitamate point and deserve an answer & I would like to hear one as well, cuz now I'm curiuos.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
12 Dec 06
I totally agree that customers deserve good service. I worked in several industries as a customer service rep, waitress, cashier, salesperson, receptionist. Customers deserve good service regardless of what employers pay. It's too bad that food service employees do often receive low wages by law. My anger towards the government and the employers is a whole other discussion... believe me it's there. Believe me I am a customer service person way before I am a customer. My personal standard requires that I give the very best I can. Like I said, this discussion was for the consumer...maybe someday I will start a discussion about the servers not doing their best... like cashiers who chat over the aisles while trying to check out lines and lines of shoppers... so inappropriate!!
@polemical (199)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
If the service was good, i'll give 10%. if the service was exceptional, i'll give 10% and my phone number ;), 'cause if someone can make *me* think it's exceptional, they probably have their eye on me. if the service is not good at all, there's no tip at all. base salary for carrying food to people and getting the orders right is fine how it is. higher salary should naturally be a result of higher education and more ambitious drive in a person, not looking for handouts like a homeless person. none of us are homeless, because we work hard at not being on the bottom (or for some of you, because you're still living with parents).
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@grandbbq (154)
• United States
5 Dec 06
You are a loser in my book. You have no way of knowing what a servers education is. They are not looking for handouts. They do not make a living wage at an hourly only rate. The rate a server gets is usually about 1/3rd of what an hourly employee gets. Some people do have good paying jobs and do the server thing to make ends meet. Servers should make more just to put up with losers like yourself. I bet you are the one who asks for something whenever the server walks by just for the fun of it. Can I have another napkin? More ice for my water? Another fork? Stupid stuff like that. For no reason. The annoying customer that gets off on some power trip. Especially when it is busy. Better look at your food before you eat it. One never knows what may be lurking on that plate. In fact I bet servers work harder than you do. I make at least $20.00 - $30.00 an hour when I am serving. Plus my wage. Does that sound like a stupid, uneducated person to you? Putting up with schmucks like you is why we make the big bucks. Tip well, and feel good inside. Get a life.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
9 Dec 06
Yep, you're a loser. Come to the 21st century, dude. You're brain is on the wrong end of your body and also on the front side instead of the back...in the wrong head. Think with your brain in the top of your body. A good server is not looking at you but paying attention closely to the work at hand. Stop looking in the mirror, cuz it's probably not as worth it as you think it is.
@Stephanie5 (2947)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I am a waitress in Indiana and I am paid $2.13 an hour plus my tips. It's not a classy place, just a little pub. I am polite and courtious, even when the customer is rude, or impatient. I'm very professional, but I have an outgoing personality. The other day...I was waiting on this couple who ordered the dinner special, and a steak...well a steak takes much longer to cook than the special, and the woman became very impatient, and got very snippity with me when I delivered the food...Her bill was almost $40 after drinks and everything, they left me $2.00. I'm thankful for that money, however...I ran my butt off for you and then put up with her yelling at me for her old man ordering steak...and I deserved more than $2.00...sometimes it's more of an insult to leave just a little than nothing at all...
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@medooley (1874)
• United States
5 Dec 06
I totally agree with you. Why insult someone by leaving them something like that. I have been out with friends and they leave change... change... less than $1, I mean come on. When that happens I always have to leave a little more.
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
5 Dec 06
I agree with you that the server often suffers for what goes on in the back room or the kitchen and that is just not fair.
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@mirage108 (3403)
• United States
6 Dec 06
When I do tip I tip for service, if I dont get it I wont tip the maximum of 15%. to me servce is where they are continually checking on us meaning have we got everything do we need I drinks filled asking if every thing is fine. If I dont get the service I expect I dont tip for shi t but they do get a little
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@kbkbooks (7028)
• Canada
6 Dec 06
Thanks for your ideas and input.