In your opinion, are teachers overworked and underpaid?

@sbeauty (5870)
United States
December 9, 2006 5:56pm CST
I'm interested in hearing your take on this subject. Please share.
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24 responses
• United States
11 Dec 06
Yes I do. And, teachers are expected to pay out of their own pockets for things they do in classes. It's horrible.
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@meeoww (1174)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I was absolutely appalled when I'd heard that a few years ago, too.
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@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
19 Dec 06
My husband always had a fit at how much of my salary I spent on things for my classroom. What I always told him was that it was far easier buying materials to work with, even if I had to pay for them myself, than it was trying to fill long days with nothing.
• United States
21 Dec 06
Well I think it is awful that teachers must pay. What on earth do they use our taxes for? And teachers are making a way for the future of people. They should be respected more and make a much bigger salary.
@happygal68 (3277)
• United States
11 Dec 06
I do believe that some of the quality teachers are definitely overworked and underpaid. I feel at times for them, they give their devotion to our children and although they get reward in the children doing good, they should be compensated more on their salaries. I think there should be a sliding scale for their pay. That way the ones that are actually devoted to Helping our children would be rewarded better. I know there are teachers out there that really don't care about the kids and just pass them on without thinking twice and for those teachers they should not get more money; they should be paid less.
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@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I agree, but what I've found is that those who are the worst teachers are the ones who spend the most time with the principal convincing him/her what a good teacher they are. Administrators never seem to catch on that if they're talking all the time they aren't working. I worked in high school special needs for 8 years and was able to establish really great rapport with most of the students, including the BD ones. The BD teacher, on the other hand, was never in her classroom, and all she tried to do was get her students sent to other facilities so that she wouldn't have to work with them. There was one boy, Derek, who had major anger management issues. He was extremely prickly, but I had been able to get close enough to him that he trusted me. He struggled with anger in the BD teacher's classroom, so we made a deal with the principal. He gave Derek a card that said that if he ever felt like he was going to lose it, he could show the teacher the card and just walk out of her room and come to me. He tried this one day. That woman had the audacity to come storming after him, open the door to my classroom, and start screaming at him in front of the other kids. I could see him shaking and trying to keep his cool. She kept screaming and demanding that he go to the office with her. Then she stormed off towards the office. Pretty soon we got an intercom message that he needed to go to the office. I went with him. He was doing such a good job of keeping his cool, and I didn't want him to get into a position where he would blow. We met with an assistant principal. Sitting in the conference room, she continued to scream at Derek and say all kinds of mean things about him. He had his hands balled into fists and was shaking with anger, but he remained quiet. I put my hand over one of his to help steady him and to let him know I was proud of his behavior. I told the assistant principal about the deal we'd made with the principal, and he said he'd check it out. The result was that Derek was assigned to my room whenever he was supposed to have gone to hers. Unbelievably, the next morning I ran into the principal who had heard of the situation from his assistant. He concurred that Derek would be in my room, but he told me, "Maybe you should talk to Marilyn (the BD teacher) about handling Derek, because she is so good with him." I stared at him with my mouth open. Administrators can be so blind!!! And if they don't know which of their staff is doing a good job, then who's to judge?
@Thoroughrob (11748)
• United States
11 Dec 06
I think that most are underpaid. Especially the newer teachers. They do expect alot from them, but not sure if they are so overworked.
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
11 Dec 06
I would have liked to see you keep up with me the last 4 years since I started teaching. In my fight to try and be the best teacher I could be, I worked 24/7 -- and still couldn't get everything done. I had no life at all.
@Thoroughrob (11748)
• United States
11 Dec 06
I wasn't trying to offend you or say they are not overworked. I don't know if they are. I do know that I have seen some teachers that will work night and day to get through to the kids and then a few that as soon as school is out, they don't want anything to do with school. I think their pay should be figured on how good of a teacher they are, although I know that would be hard to do. Some deserve alot more and others deserve what they are getting.
@Lydia1901 (16353)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I think that's true and that's why alot of teachers aren't doing there job to teach the students.
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
11 Dec 06
With most teachers I've worked with, it isn't that they don't want to be good teachers, but so much extra work has been piled on them that they can't be the kind of teachers they want to be.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
4 Jan 07
exactly! teaching isn't just walking a room and saying "ok kid, read this book and write me a report" Not only is teaching 5 classes a day exhausting, but when you're finished teaching, you have so much paperwork to fill out on this kid for TST, that kid for ADHD, parent conference here, document that. It's not just teaching anymore. We're so exhausted from the extra stuff that, like you said, we can't be the teachers we want to be.
@jenbatres (800)
• United States
4 Jan 07
I feel that teachers don't get paid what they should. Most teachers take on 20 kids and have them at least 6 hours a day. Imagine how much day care would cost for each child, teachers should get at least that much.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
4 Jan 07
Try 30, haha. My school has 7 periods/day and I teach 5 periods, one period is a planning period, 1 is for my team to meet and have parent conferences. I have a little under 150 students going through my classroom each day.
• China
19 Dec 06
After I look through those responses, most people think alike of teachers' situation. But that doesn't mean teachers should pursue other higher-pay job, because they can get satisfaction from children, from their growing up which can't be measured materially.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
4 Jan 07
Right! No one enters teaching for the money, we do it because we have a passion for it. If I wanted to make money, I would have stuck with my other thoughts for careers, like nursing, accounting, architecture.
@compumom (738)
• United States
11 Dec 06
Oh yes, they are overworked and underpaid. I'm not a teacher but my heart goes out to them, especially the ones who teach middle school. I just imagine being in a classroom with 20 or 30 hormone driven teen-agers who pretty much believe they know more than their parents and teachers do. Every time I hear my teen-aged children and their friends talk about school, I thank God that I'm not a teacher.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
4 Jan 07
Haha I teach middle school. I teach 6th grade. This is my first year, and I am anticipating wild students when we return from Christmas break. Everyone has warned me to be super mean because the hormones will have set in and they will be so moody! haha For me, though, this is the best time to have kids because you can make the biggest impact on them at this age. Maybe stop them from getting into stuff that they shouldn't get into.
@meeoww (1174)
• United States
11 Dec 06
I have felt this same sentiment for a long time now. It is a career of passion, not of money. When I met one of my friends a couple of years ago, she was 2 years in towards her teaching major. I thanked her in advance for her willingness to be a role model for our children and future! She will be a 2nd generation teacher since her father also teaches 5th grade. It really upsets me, though, that alot of parents not only blame teachers for their children's shortcomings (or more likely their OWN), and seem to think that teachers are babysitters for their unruly little brats which they've raised poorly! Ooops! Sorry, but this subject tends to inflame me! Thank you, sbeauty, for your compassion of being a teacher for our children! Aloha!
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
11 Dec 06
And thank you for your comment about the unruly brats. More and more children are starting school who don't have a clue how to behave appropriately in a group situation. Too many are used to being their parents' little cuties and the center of attention. They are used to inconsistent discipline if there's any discipline at all. I get angry when so much teaching time is taken up trying to discipline these kids when it could be used to benefit the rest of the class. And you know what? Those are the kids whose parents are the most critical and demanding of the teachers. They can't handle their child either singly or in a small group, but they think the teacher should do it with a whole classroom full of kids.
@deebomb (15319)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Teacher are the second most important person in a child's life. Parents are first. I believe that some teacher are over worked and under paid. then there are some over paid and underworked. I have put 6 kids through the schooolcsystem and have had both good teachers and bad. I understand that kids are trying. and some can't or wont learn. My problem is the bad teachers that are in the system and are just mved from one school to another.
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Unfortunately, once a teacher is given tenure, it's very hard to get rid of them. I've known really bad teachers who have administrators fooled because they talk a good story but then don't practice what they preach. Administrators seem to be very obtuse when it comes to seeing the real worth of a teacher. It helps if the parents make a point of talking to an administrator if they're having problems with a teacher.
@caribe (2465)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Yes, absolutely, I believe that teachers are overworked, underpaid and unappreciated. I have friends that are teachers and they are being very underpaid for the amount of hours they spend doing their jobs and for the amount of education that they have in comparison with what others are paid for the same. Where would our children be without teachers?
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Yes, teachers are very important. However, they are also the whipping post for students, parents, and administrators. No matter what happens, the teacher is at fault. I have put in long, exhausting days only to have a parent jump all over me about something out of my control. It's discouraging, and there are very few percs. Some people think that teachers get to just lay around for 3 months every summer. Not true! I spent every minute of my summers fixing up my room and preparing materials for the next year. Thanks for responding.
@tmnjyk (3486)
• Canada
20 Jan 07
I have a high respect for teachers and this is a noble job. I think teachers are well paid than in doing some other jobs out there. I know they have a good benefits package. I think I'd rather be a teacher or a teacher aide than working as a bar tender, waitress, or working in a convenience store.
• India
19 Jan 07
Ya i m not a teacher but i know lots of them..they worked really hard but then also they are getting one fourth of what there student after passing out as an engineer or MBA getting...
@agusfebi (813)
• Indonesia
19 Jan 07
Sorry I could not answer him, because for me these discussions really were difficult to be comprehended by me in my thoughts. Thank you very much.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
4 Jan 07
I am a teacher. I work, just on school property, 9 hours a day. That doesn't include the time I spend grading papers or preparing for lessons. So, really, I work about 50 or so hours a week. I wish my salary was a lot more, but you have to remember that we only work 9 1/2 months out of the year. Being a teacher is hard...especially with parents who expect us to raise and be parents to our students as well as educate them, but in comparison with the salaries of teachers in the past and the amount of time per year we work, we get paid pretty well. If we didn't get that long summer vaca, 2 weeks for Christmas, 1 week for Thanksgiving, then yeah, we'd definitely be extremely underpaid.
@god_spear (498)
• Philippines
4 Jan 07
As far as i knew, yes teachers are overworked and underpaid, thats why some of them are selling anything to the students or to co-teachers to augment their income, Teachers are very important to the people without them no one will be able to reach thier ambthemitions in life, I think its time the proper authorites should do something about this. Give them the proper compensation. I hope it will come the soonest possible time.
@myrith (1830)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
Absolutely, they are underpaid and under appreciated, considering what they have to through on a daily basis....Great Topic.
@marrry (341)
• Romania
22 Dec 06
 teacher - just a teacher
yes they are. at least in my country
@pammitch (465)
• Canada
21 Dec 06
I disagree. I believe some teachers work very hard and are great at what they do. I know it takes a lot of time to get a teaching degree but I just don't understand why so many people who are not fit to be in the field become teachers. Personally I have only had two good teachers in my life. One in middle school (it was a private school) and another in high school. All the other teachers I've had or that I know of are complete A$$holes. In grade 3 my teacher used to through chalk at his students! Most of my teachers would treat the students badly and constantly get days off. At my old highschool they had a day off called "Day in Lou". My younger sister attends my old high school and they haven't had a full week of school all year. Every week is a 4 day week.
@MrsFrizzle (1964)
• United States
21 Dec 06
My husband is a high school english teacher. I feel like he makes decent money however considering the amoutn of education he needed and the cost of studne loans I think he deserves more. I works well over 40 hours a week. Often on weekends he takse time out of fun to grade papers and plan lessons. He leaves for work at 6:00 in the morning and is usaly not home until 6:00. He loves his students and hates to even take a sick day because he does not want them to fall behind. It is very nice that he has great benifits and summers off. However I think teachers should be paid more. Why do movie stars make so much money? Teachers are teaching the future. They should be very hiighly paid.
@Ohara_1983 (4119)
• Kuwait
21 Dec 06
im not a teacher, but my friend told me that teacher is not just a profession but it's a mission.