Muslims

@Bhutto (741)
India
December 12, 2006 2:40am CST
i am a muslim i am sick of hearing ppl say all muslims are terrorist.Only muslim are terrorist what about isreal who have broken all laws at UN and i am soory to say about India also What happened in gujrat all the attack were planned and went on for as long as 4 months nobody stopped it,not even Home minister at that time Mr Advani.narender modi is free and nobody points fringer at bajrangal dal which is hindu outfit,they are not terrorist.Pls respond.
74 responses
• India
12 Dec 06
90 percent of terrorist are muslim and they have killed more inocent people then any terroist. What u will tell now ?
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• United States
12 Dec 06
" i am a muslim i am sick of hearing ppl say all muslims are terrorist." Please, give me one reference to any article or posting where anyone has said that all Muslims are terrorists. I have heard the President of the USA say that most Muslims are not terrorists. I have heard several TV news anchors says that all Muslims are not terrorists. I have heard the famous TV show host, Oprah Winfrey say that all Muslims are not terrorists. In fact, I have never heard anyone say that all Muslims are terrorists. So, please, tell me one instance in the US media where anyone has said that all Muslims are terrorists.
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@Furrukh (701)
• Pakistan
12 Dec 06
This question is often hurled at Muslims, either directly or indirectly, during any discussion on religion or world affairs. Muslim stereotypes are perpetuated in every form of the media accompanied by gross misinformation about Islam and Muslims. In fact, such misinformation and false propaganda often leads to discrimination and acts of violence against Muslims. A case in point is the anti-Muslim campaign in the American media following the Oklahoma bomb blast, where the press was quick to declare a ‘Middle Eastern conspiracy’ behind the attack. The culprit was later identified as a soldier from the American Armed Forces. Let us analyze this allegation of ‘fundamentalism’ and ‘terrorism’: 1. Definition of the word ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practise the fundamentals of medicine. In other words, he should be a fundamentalist in the field of medicine. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of mathematics. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of mathematics. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of science. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science. 2. Not all ‘fundamentalists’ are the same One cannot paint all fundamentalists with the same brush. One cannot categorize all fundamentalists as either good or bad. Such a categorization of any fund amentalist will depend upon the field or activity in which he is a fundamentalist. A fundamentalist robber or thief causes harm to society and is therefore undesirable. A fundamentalist doctor, on the other hand, benefits society and earns much respect. 3. I am proud to be a Muslim fundamentalist I am a fundamentalist Muslim who, by the grace of Allah, knows, follows and strives to practise the fundamentals of Islam. A true Muslim does not shy away from being a fundamentalist. I am proud to be a fundamentalist Muslim because, I know that the fundamentals of Islam are beneficial to humanity and the whole world. There is not a single fundamental of Islam that causes harm or is against the interests of the human race as a whole. Many people harbour misconceptions about Islam and consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. If one critically analyzes the teachings of Islam with an open mind, one cannot escape the fact that Islam is full of benefits both at the individual and collective levels. 4. Dictionary meaning of the word ‘fundamentalist’ According to Webster’s dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ was a movement in American Protestanism that arose in the earlier part of the 20th century. It was a reaction to modernism, and stressed the infallibility of the Bible, not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record. It stressed on belief in the Bible as the literal word of God. Thus fundamentalism was a word initially used for a group of Christians who believed that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without any errors and mistakes. According to the Oxford dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ means ‘strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam’. Today the moment a person uses the word fundamentalist he thinks of a Muslim who is a terrorist. 5. Every Muslim should be a terrorist Every Muslim should be a terrorist. A terrorist is a person who causes terror. The moment a robber sees a policeman he is terrified. A policeman is a terrorist for the robber. Similarly every Muslim should be a terrorist for the antisocial elements of society, such as thieves, dacoits and rapists. Whenever such an anti-social element sees a Muslim, he should be terrified. It is true that the word ‘terrorist’ is generally used for a person who causes terror among the common people. But a true Muslim should only be a terrorist to selective people i.e. anti-social elements, and not to the common innocent people. In fact a Muslim should be a source of peace for innocent people. 6. Different labels given to the same individual for the same action, i.e. ‘terrorist’ and ‘patriot’ Before India achieved independence from British rule, some freedom fighters of India who did not subscribe to non-violence were labeled as terrorists by the British government. The same individuals have been lauded by Indians for the same activities and hailed as ‘patriots’. Thus two different labels have been given to the same people for the same set of actions. One is calling him a terrorist while the other is calling him a patriot. Those who believed that Britain had a right to rule over India called these people terrorists, while those who were of the view that Britain had no right to rule India called them patriots and freedom fighters. It is therefore important that before a person is judged, he is given a fair hearing. Both sides of the argument should be heard, the situation should be analyzed, and the reason and the intention of the person should be taken into account, and then the person can be judged accordingly. 7. Islam means peace Islam is derived from the word ‘salaam’ which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world. Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society
13 Dec 06
Good for you. I think that was a really important point. Even those who don't tar all Muslims with the same brush do seem to see fundamentalism and terrorism as interchangeable terms. I think it is absolutely right that these two be separated and distinguished and I agree with you also that both sides should be heard (not that it is excusable to kill people under any circumstances). I do disagree with you about right terrorism though. Causing terror is never a good means of correcting wrongdoing. I especially liked your distinction between being a fundamentalist for a good belief system and a bad one - mainly because it made me wonder what a non-fundamental thief would be like! I think I probably qualify as a very liberal thief as I almost always take my library books back late but I do take them back so am not adhering to the fundamentals of thievery!!!!
• United Arab Emirates
17 Dec 06
that was really a gr8 answer!!Thankyou for putting it here, it answers many questions.
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• United Arab Emirates
12 Dec 06
Dear Bhutto I cannot agree to your words fully. See, I'm and Indian and I can understand well what is going on in our Country. I know all muslims are not terrorists. Pakistan supports militancy in Kashmir and the terrorists coming from Pakistan are killing Hindus and Muslims there. The terrorists who kill innocent people are doing this henious acts even after they are aware that they cannot achieve their goals. Do you think anyone can separate Kashmir or any other parts from India using power or terrorist activities? Come on man.... So try to condemn terrorism and don't try to blame anyone blindly. You must have heard about the law "every action has opposite and equal reaction". This is applicable for terrorist activities also. If you are from Pakistan, please try to understand that entire Islamic community is bearing the shame because the world now knows that Pakistan is the epicenter of terrorism and exporting it to entire part of world. India have more muslims than anyother muslim country & they are living with more dignity in India than in a muslim country. So open your eyes & ears and try to understand truth first instead of biased thinking. At last but not the least, you must understand very well that India is the only country who never attacked anyother country in its entire History. Better dun check the patience of tolerant people. Jai Hind
@Bhutto (741)
• India
14 Dec 06
Well Mr silveroak you have opened my eyes and ears but i think i have shut all of yours.I know India has never attacked any country but they have a very good record of connunal clashes from the days of independence are you aware of this.As far Pakistan is concerned i dont think they have any record of communal clash .Living with dignity ask people coming from Middle east(Hindus).The women let it be Muslims,Hindus,Christians or any other they can move around with no fear, where as in India i need not say.It will be better if you ask people who have returned from there.You are right every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.
@ram_18y (275)
• India
12 Dec 06
we are indians and we know what is going here.we are giving muslim reservations.we are proud to have president like abdulkalam
@dhpd22 (69)
• India
12 Dec 06
I am agreed with you that all of the muslims are not bad. But my friend this is also true that all the terrorist caughten by police are muslims only. Don't you agreed with me.
@sarkar1 (336)
• India
12 Dec 06
A very well made point...................................................I absolutely agree with it. This is a hypocritical world and is nothing is being done to change it.
@samaira (162)
• India
12 Dec 06
wat u said is not right...coz people who r caught call themselves muslims...but i said this b4 n i repeat terrorists actually have no religion..u don't know wat being a muslim means..meet a true muslim n u ll never call a terrorist ,muslim..
• Germany
12 Dec 06
Yes they have been muslims but the reason is that no one calls an Israeli soldier a terrorist. Also when american soldiers kill iraqis and afghan civilians no one calls them terrorists. so actually non muslim terrorists are not being caught.
• Germany
12 Dec 06
Definitely Islam does not teach terrorism. People who are terrorist do it because of other reasons. Unfortunately it is the Bush and Blair company that is spreading this wrong explanation through western media. But its a duty of Muslims as well to tell the truth to the world.
@starr4all (2863)
14 Dec 06
Bush didn't make Ladin a terrorist for his own good! Bin Ladin sent planes into buildings killing thousands! That's a terrorist!
@kishchun (497)
• Oman
12 Dec 06
hey, bhutto, you are right - all muslims are not terrorists, and we all have to accept it. however, it does not give you any right to commit the same mistake by making counter accusation - calling people of some other religion as terrorists, whether hindus or israelis. come to think of it, people started accusing muslims because they saw that all those terrorists were muslims - can you blame them? one more thing - even tv interviews showed muslims among the public in the west saying that they would draw blood, kill people, involve in terrorism, as they are permitted by islam, in the name of jehad. however, i don't believe them because no true religion will advocate violence and bloodshed. and , just for your information, i do have a lot of muslim friends, some very close friends, and we do understand each other very well , different religions being no barrier to our friendship at all. we argue, of course, at times , and that should be natural, right?
@hemtata (284)
• India
12 Dec 06
Unfortunately those are caught sofar in terrorist activities in the all the countries are from Muslim religion. As far as Israel is concerned it's surrounded by muslim countries and they have no option but to defend themselves. As far as Mr Advani , Mr Modi and bajarang dal are concerned leagally nothing has been proved sofar that they had interior motives, unlike the terrorists caught in various attacks in Indian cities. World knows the names of those attackers.
@Bhutto (741)
• India
14 Dec 06
Well hemtata the isrealies are surrounded by muslims so they have right to defend themselves but they dont have right to occupy their land for any reason and as far as i am concerned i didnt say Advani and narendar are involved (who knows)they could have stopped in few days.Does it take months for a communal clashes to stop is our army so weak that they cant stop if this the reason then we cant blame the intruders coming into our contry and doing what they wish too.
@simyss (125)
• Singapore
13 Dec 06
They are racists and looks at things generally. By the way, could you speak more proper english so that we can all understand what you are trying to express?
@balasri (26537)
• India
13 Dec 06
Yes this gentle man is trying to say something which is very hard to understand.
@muntaha (376)
• Bangladesh
12 Dec 06
I am a muslim and i dont believe that muslims are terrorist. This harrasment must be stopped!!
@istanto (8548)
• Indonesia
13 Dec 06
if you want it stopped show to people on this world we are good as they are. we are not supporting terrorism or say true about killing each other. we are same just some of us make our looks bad in this world.
• India
12 Dec 06
muslim - This is the place where all muslims pray 2 Allah..In Hindi it is called Masjid..
Hey friend there was no need 2 post this topic here..As all people r not same we never can avoid some situations..So plz stop this discussion as sooon as possible.. Dont spoil mother India's image in front of such a huge community.. Everyone here knows that all muslims r not same othrwise no one could b lived in peace.. As per as politicians r concerned they r only using us ..They r using divide and conquer
@Bhutto (741)
• India
14 Dec 06
i appriciate your comment, do you want to hide from facts or are you a true lover of India.If you are i appriciate you even more, but be positive and dont be a hypocrate.
• Ireland
12 Dec 06
I am not sure what your point is. You are sick of people saying all muslims are terrorists and you immediately go and call other people terrorists. What bothers you more? The fact that some people call all muslims terrorists or the fact that there are people who kill innocent bystanders in the name of your religion?
@Bhutto (741)
• India
12 Dec 06
Well i think you are happy and i think you too like to call all muslims terrorist,My friend do you read papers,if yes you know what the entire world is doing to islam.You are well aware of what happened in Yugoslavia how muslims were tortured and killed and you are well aware of what happened in Gujurat.Think in a rational way respond.
@vhmehta (621)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Terrorists are people without any religion. No religion teaches people to kill innocent people so surely they do not belong to any religion. They are people who have been misguided through different sources. Unfortunately many Muslims are terrorists but that does not mean that all muslims are terrorists. Even hindus, christians can be terrorists. I have many muslim friends and I have never even thought about them as terrorists. I guess you have met some wrong people. But beleive me all people do not beleive that all muslims are terrorists. Just dont get offended by people who do not know the facts. They make generalisation based on one occurance and do not represent what everyone is thinking.
12 Dec 06
Please reread my post, never did I once say or even hint at the idea ALL Americans think Muslims are bad. Where you got that is very confusing!
@sunshinecup (7871)
12 Dec 06
I have never allowed the terrorist to convince me that Muslims are bad, they didn’t even get me to think for one minute all of any group is bad, other than terrorists. I DO know what you mean and how you feel. My best friend is American born, but is married to a Saudi Muslim man. He is the kindest most carrying man I have ever met. However, during 9/11 he could not even go to the grocery without some neanderthal giving him grief with either loud insults or angry stares. His daughter in kindergarten had the opportunity of hearing Muslims attacked us from her teacher, that was just great for her parents to hear, don’t ya think? Near as I can figure it, most people, not just Americans, but most of the Human race, find it too easy to just attack a group as a whole then rather except it was just a few nuts. For instance, you can’t through a rock without hitting someone in another country that thinks ALL Americans are selfish greedy hell hounds. The best thing I can say is, don’t let them get to you, if you do it will only turn you into them. I have hope one day we as humans will evolve into the ideal race, but we have to continue to make progress and not revert.
@vhmehta (621)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Again you are making a generalisation based on one occassion. All americans do NOT think that muslims are bad. There are many Muslims in US. Politicians and some people do not represent US same as some terrorists who are muslims do not represent muslim community. I was in chicago during 9/11. In 9/11 there were muslims as well as Indians killed in world trade centres. I had several muslim friends and they had no bad experience. I agree that some people beleive that all muslims are bad but as I have said in my earlier post generalisation can not be made from one or even some occurances. You can not say all US thinks that muslim attacked them. I hope you get the point. I am not trying to defend anyone. Atleast dont make any generalisation based on one persons view.
@blueman (16509)
• India
13 Dec 06
i do agree with you but it is not that all people think so that all muslims are terrorist, and why some people have been into thinking that all muslims are terrorists is that most of the people who carry out terror acts around the world happens to be muslims and they somehow give the picture that they are fighting for their religion.
@harsh1985 (593)
• India
13 Dec 06
well muslims are not terrorist but unfortunately all terrorist are muslims!!...sorry for that but some wise people like you; can't strongly protest all these silly things behind the name of 'JIHAD'. now both INDIA & AMERICA are suffering from this JIHADIS. you strongly protest it .i am with you( well i am a hindu & i am resident of india)
@wasim989 (2298)
• India
12 Dec 06
Yeah I can understand your feeing as I am muslim too..................
@ezymoney (876)
• Australia
13 Dec 06
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@Asimk12 (737)
• Pakistan
13 Dec 06
hell - hell
me too,and i hate those people woh sick of it..
@Jamian (2603)
• Philippines
13 Dec 06
As salam malai kum, I dont think Muslim are terrorist, terrorists have no religion, they have no God and they just put mess in the world, I have lots of Muslim friends, they are very disciplined, let us not generalized things. I believe that someday, we will have peace in the world, what ever religion is, we are still one.
@samaira (162)
• India
12 Dec 06
hey first thing is that that terrorists actually have no religion...they might say they r muslims...but nowhere it is taught in islam to kill people for silly reasons....if politicians say that its natural coz these people work only for political gains...n no wonder why the people u mentiones said so....but yes if u ask a well educated person about this u ll know that all people don't have same opinion bout things.....i seriously feel dat terrorists have no religion..they must be mad if they feel dat by killing people of other religions they ll do something for their religions..
• India
13 Dec 06
but if you take a close look on this subject you will see majority of them are muslims . why is it so?