Low carb foods - need more ideas please!!!!

@brokentia (10394)
United States
December 16, 2006 11:01pm CST
I have discovered that I am at the point of turning diabetic. I never took the warnings seriously before, but now since my partner bought me a blood glucose meter, I can not avoid the fact any longer. So to prevent from turning full Type II Diatbetic, I am having to eat low carb foods. The only problem is...I am not supposed to have more than 8 carbs per meal or no more than 25 carbs per day....and at most 30 carbs a day. Grrrr So please help! I need help finding foods and recipes that will target my carb intake guidelines.
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• United States
19 Dec 06
Brokentia, welcome to my world. ;) I'm a Type II diabetic and eat no more than 30 grams of carbs most days. Many days I eat 20 grams, some days I have 40. I might have to increase to 60 grams a day but that's still low carb when compared to the typical American diet! For almost four years I ate less than 25 grams a day so I know just what you're going through. I have a blog about Type II Diabetes, low carbing, medications, a few recipes and eating suggestions, etc. It's a pretty new blog but I get a decent amount of traffic and work on it daily. It's at: http://thediabeticdiet.blogspot.com/ Maybe you'll find something helpful. In general, though, I can tell you that I eat a lot of low carb vegetables, chicken, and fish. I eat beef, too, but really limit it because the leaner beef is just too expensive for me. Someone suggested rice cakes. Well, those aren't actually low in carbs, especially if you can have no more than 25 grams a day! A plain rice cake is about 7 grams of carbs so if you eat one, you just blew more than 1/4 of your daily carbs. I don't know about you, but I'd rather eat something much more nutritious! Someone else suggested just watching sugar but if you're on the verge of being diabetic, which you said you are, that isn't the answer. You don't say what your meter readings are but if you'll share that information I can probably give you a little more guidance. "Let your meter be your guide!" is my motto and it works. One of my favorite low carb sites is sugarfreeshelia.com. Her original recipes are not only easy but made with normal ingredients, not odd stuff that's pricey and hard to find. Anyway, I hope I helped a little bit. I'll be happy to share more sites with you, if you like.
@brokentia (10394)
• United States
20 Dec 06
Wow! That was really really great!!!! I did not want to be rude to those that suggested I eat race cakes. I already looked and some rice cakes go up to as much as 12 net carbs! Now, that is really blowing it just as you said and I would be left with this air pocket in my tummy from lack of food. LOL I also read that someone suggested that I just limit my sugar intake. Did that too! But my sugar still shot up to the 140's and I even had only water with my meal. I have been trying to find out what low carb combinations I can eat to keep my level low enough. The other week...before i started diet soda, I had a wrap from Subway (you know how small those are?) and a soda. Nothing else! After two hours, my sugar was up to 138...I forgot to take it an hour later. But for some reason, my sugar is higher 3 hours after eating instead of just the 2 hours. So, I am sure that it went higher. So I am now drinking diet soda...I hate it! And working really hard at sticking to veggies, meat, and cheese. Which, I am very proud of myself because I have stuck to it for a whole month now. I know it will get better with time. But that is why I posted asking for help. I have tried to look for recipes and some are 10 carbs per dish. Not very helpful. Then when you factor in they are adding in stuff I never heard of...I decided to post here instead. Thank you so much for responding! I will definitely check out your blog. Because I know I really must get this under control before I a diagnosed as diabetic. My grandmother went through so many medical problems because once she was diagnosed, it was too hard to control. Thanks again for your help and advice. I will check out your site!!!
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• United States
20 Dec 06
You're welcome and if I can help in any way let me know. I just posted a new discussion entitled "Some of my favorite low carb recipes". There are only three ideas there, I think, but you might be able to use them. It's hard putting it all together in a way that works for you, I know! Also, I hate to even mention this but as a pre-diabetic person, you really need to watch fat, too. It's so difficult, I know, but it's vital to your pre-diabetic heart that you care for it lovingly and time and patience and experience will show you what works for you. A lot of people who aren't diabetic or pre-diabetic don't understand that our blood sugar is affected by fat, protein, carbs, etc. It isn't a matter of sugar so much as being a matter of carbohydrates. Yes, sugar in large quantities isn't good for us just as it isn't good for non-diabetics but carbs are what cause the big quick spikes and we have to be so wary of those spikes! When you watched the sugar and your blood sugar was still up in the 140s what were you eating? Just curious about that. As for the low carb combinations that work for you, your meter will tell you that. Make sure you test right before you eat and two hours after taking the first bite. The one hour mark is good, too but as long as you're under 120 at that two hour mark, you're really making progress. Oh yeah, drink a regular soda and that's waaay too much sugar! Do you know that most peanut butters have a teaspoon of sugar for every two tablespoons of peanut butter? The protein in the wrap might have helped to keep the bg down a little while when you had that soft drink. Remember, hidden carbs are a real issue for a lot of us and since it isn't just carbs that affect us, we have to look at all nutritional values of a dish. Have you tried diet pepsi? That's my diet drink of choice. I hated diet drinks at first but after six years, I think nothing of drinking them now and then. Remember, too, to drink a lot of water. It should help bring down the bg when it's high so drink plenty of it. What vegetables do you like and not like? These are basically free vegetables: cabbage, tomato (only 1), cucumber, zucchini, marrow, spaghetti squash, cauliflower, celery, rhubarb, yellow or green beans, bean sprouts, spinach, greens (beet greens, swiss chard), lettuce, radishes, red, orange, yellow or green peppers, broccoli, brussel sprouts, asparagus, mushrooms, parsley, onions (1/2 cup) I often have a lunch of quickly sauteed vegetables and tuna salad made with mayo and dill pickle relish. It's great and low in carbs and fat. I also eat celery stalks stuffed with a little cream cheese or a little natural peanut butter or some tuna salad. I love kippers so I eat those, too. Anyway, do check out my blog and hopefully you'll find some help there. I'll help however I can.
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@brokentia (10394)
• United States
20 Dec 06
I can hit 140's with just 2 tuna fish sandwhiches with cheese. And I have always liked dill relish better than the sweet relish. :) I didn't see it as bad at the time because I do not use a lot of Miracle Whip either. But sure enough...it spiked and I realized I have to start checking to see how different foods effect me. I love veggies...but I don't like cabbage. I cook shredded zucchini like hashbrowns with scrambled eggs with cheese and I am pretty happy with that. BG 118 :) But I am still trying to figure out the different things for lunch and dinner. Is alfalfa sprouts ok instead of lettuce? Are Kippers like sardines? Because I like sardines but I do not like the little bones in it...so I can't get myself to eat them. What are kippers? Thanks for the suggestion of water. I probably do not drink as much as I should. I will start including more. Because sometimes it is frustrating to see my sugar go close to 130 when I have been really good all day. Oh...and just to get it out of my head...I was reading you blog and I can give up rice but I love my potatos!!!!! I can name off 20 different ways I love potatos! But I am going to try a califlower boil bake that someone suggested in this thread. If I life it, do you have an email in that blog I can email you things I like and try?
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@findcutegj (1466)
• India
17 Dec 06
While many low carb foods are sugar free, they may not be appropriate for diabetics. And not all diabetic foods are appropriate for a low carb diet. Those on a diabetic diet, need carbs, in a certain balance. Diabetics should not go into ketosis, but should keep a tight reign on their carb intake, because the carbs turn into sugar. A sweet herb called stevia as a health supplement can also be used.
@vipul20044 (5796)
• India
17 Dec 06
here is one efficient faux "mashed potato" recipe for you You use a head of cauliflower cooked in salted, boiling water until soft. Mash it and mix it with some butter, salt, pepper and shredded cheddar cheese. Put in a greased casserole dish and sprinkle with crumbled bacon. Bake at 350 until bubbly. YUM! mark my words its worth a try!
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@brokentia (10394)
• United States
17 Dec 06
oh my gosh! That is awesome! I will have to try it!!!!
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@estarga (1188)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I am not diabetic, but I do practice the Dr. Atkins "diet" once in a while. The only advice I can give is to avoid everything white, white bread, white sugar, potatoes etc. And I will be trying that recipe ASAP. I love cauliflower...hmm I wonder if it would be good with some brocoli mixed in.
• Canada
19 Dec 06
I am SO trying that baked cauliflower idea! YUM! ~Wyrdsister
• Canada
19 Dec 06
I'm so glad you are taking this seriously! :) So many people just sit around and wait for something really serious to happen before they decide "I really should pay attention." There are some great diabetic cookbooks out there, as well as websites for low-glycemic diets. I'd use search terms like "diabetic diet" and "low-glycemic diet" when looking for things online. (like I needed to tell you that. ;) I've heard from several sources that the diabetic diet is one of the healthiest diets you can have, so it even benefits non-diabetic people. Here's brief intro to low-glycemic foods: http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Diet/Glycemic_Index.htm While I'm not diabetic, I often have fluctuations in my blood sugar, and diabetes runs on both sides of my family. My brother was hypoglycemic when he was younger (but he's a healthy freak and grew out of it! *boggles my mind*). Good luck to you, and take care of yourself! ~Wyrdsister
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@brokentia (10394)
• United States
20 Dec 06
Thanks for the great suggestions. I just looked up last night some diabetic cook books and even some Atkins cook books and have them requested through the library. Hopefully, it will not take too long to get the books to my local library.
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• United States
17 Dec 06
Tia! This is not a good thing honey. Glad that you are taking it seriously though. Many times people will choose to ignore their doctors advise. Diabetes is a serious disease that should never be ignored. I will check out some of my recipes and get back with you on this. Huggers!
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@brokentia (10394)
• United States
17 Dec 06
Thank you so much sweetie. I love the recipes that you have posted so far...I look forward to your future recipes. :)
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• United States
17 Dec 06
No bread! Lots of fresh fruits and veggies! Fish is also very good. There is a book called EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE, you can find it at almost any book store. I used this book, ate all day,(at buffets ate up to three plates!), lost weight, and felt better than I have in a long time. It goes on the principle that each blood type reacts to different foods different ways. I am A+. I cannot absorb B12 easily. I am therefore prone to pernissious anemia. Type O blood can eat meat, I cannot digest it properly. It is a very wonderful tool for keeping yourself healthy and happy!!:)
@brokentia (10394)
• United States
17 Dec 06
I am blood type O and can not digest red meat properly. I think it is more the person then boold type then.
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
17 Dec 06
I've found a site which gives many recipes for low carb foods, they even divide them into categories of meat, poultry, seafood, soups and salads, sauces and dips, breakfast, snacks, bread and pasta and dessert. Here is a recipe that I thought sounded good from the dessert category...sounds yummy too! Peanut Butter Cheesecake Serving Size : 12 2 tablespoons peanut butter 1/2 cup butter 1 cup ground pecans 1/4 cup soy flour 1/8 teaspoon stevia 3/4 cup whey protein powder, vanilla 2 8 oz. pkg. cream cheese - room temperature 1/3 cup peanut butter 1/3 cup Splenda, granular 1/4 teaspoon stevia 3 eggs 1 tsp vanilla 1 pound tofu, medium firm Prepare crust: Mix first six ingredients. Pat into medium spring-form pan, wetting hands as necessary. Bake crust at 325 for 15 minutes. Blend drained tofu with eggs in a food processor until creamy. In a mixing bowl, cream the cheese and peanut butter until smooth. Gradually add tofu mixture, vanilla and Splenda until well-blended. Pour onto crust. Bake at 350 for fifteen minutes and then at 275 for another 35 minutes, or until done. Chill. Serves 12. Protein 15.6 g Carbohydrate 6.0 g. Fibre 2.0 g Effective carbohydrate 4.0 g Note: you can substitute a third package of cream cheese if you don’t like the idea of using tofu. The original Victorian Sampler cheesecake used 3 packages
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
17 Dec 06
I forgot to give the site too..silly me. Here it is: http://www.lowcarb.ca/recipes.html
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@Lydia1901 (16353)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Sorry to hear you're getting that problem, but I don't have any idea bout the low carb foods. I don't eat healthy myself.
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@mbs730 (2151)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
I'm sorry to hear this but you do have to be careful. My father has type 2 diabetes and he is suffering a lot. He is not on insulin yet but is on medication and for a while he was able to control it with diet and exercise. But even that didn't treat it anymore. You need to research on brands of breads and pastas that are considered to be low carb, as I know they do exist. Also try eating higher protein snacks, if you like fish, have some fish.. even a few nuts I would think is okay. And also have more veggies in one sitting, have like a half of potato and more veggies. It's hard, I know. I am not diabetic but I need to lose weight AGAIN! And besides, my liver is not in the best shape so I have to watch my diet for that alone.
@norteh (615)
• Netherlands
17 Dec 06
It all depends on the level of glucose in your blood. Measured 4 times a day, after eating and in the morning you should measure the glucose before dinner. If it's between 3 and 7; it's o.k. If it's higher than perhaps you have type II. If it's lower then 3, take some sugar. You need it, by that time. Oeps, also see a doctor. He can diagnose this illness. Internet can't.
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@NewHeart (528)
• Canada
17 Dec 06
don't know about us of a but in canada we get to go to hospital and ask a diabetic nurse free of charge about what foods we can or cannot eat plus they have special cook books you could pick up on all types of food whether like chinese of english dishes, also switch from white bread to brown whole wheat better for you too, remember everything you eat no matter what turns to sugar. also watch the amounts you eat if you eat smaller portions more often it can be better for you some of us diabetics have too or are supposed to have 5 meals a day instead of 3 big ones...sometimes a bit of bad food can be good for you.. if like chicken stay away from the skin..now as for the meter there are times you should test and a time not to if you check at wrong times you will get bad readings.. try it just before you eat in morning for first good test. then if testing after a meal should be at least 2 hours... sometimes its a balancing act between what you eat and how much you exercise or your pyshicle activities during the day...
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• United States
17 Dec 06
Awesome discussion. I've been looking into this myself, and the information is so valuable. Y0u can only ge so much from books, but actually getting real ife experiences from people, so helpful. ABout going to see a dietician, yeah, a good idea if you have extra $$....but not many of us are in that boat...
@brokentia (10394)
• United States
17 Dec 06
I know exactly what you mean! I do not have the time or money to seek help from a dietician. So I will have to get my info from the web, books, and anyone here on myLot. Thanks to anyone that contributes. You are really helping!
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• India
18 Dec 06
Start taking fruits like pappaya and lots of green veggies along with cream less soups.
@nirali78 (307)
• India
18 Dec 06
Eat fruits daily...
• United States
18 Dec 06
avoid breads, and pasteries, they are loaded with carbs. Pastas as well. Try looking at the south beach diet, it's a low carb diet.
• United States
18 Dec 06
caloriecounter.com tells you nutritional stuff
• Canada
17 Dec 06
If you are at the point of becoming diabetic, i would talk to your doctor about starting you on metformin. ITs good for diabetics and helps regulate sugar. I take it for polycycstic ovarian syndrom but it is a med for diabetics. It would make things a bit easier to deal with. You can also try the south beach diet book , that is a low carb \no carb diet book
• Canada
17 Dec 06
As A Natural Health Care Practitioner, I see alot of great advice in this discussion. Also, remember to eat as much raw, or lightly steamed veg as you can.
@ipanks (891)
• Indonesia
17 Dec 06
did you talk with your doctor?ask what the doctor suggestion for your diabetic.and if necessary ask for what exactly medicine for you.
• Romania
17 Dec 06
Carbohydrates stimulate the body to produce the hormone called Insulin. Insulin controls the movement of sugar from food into the cells of the body where it is then either used for energy or stored as fat. Years of excessive insulin production (Hyperinsulinemia) from eating high amounts of carbohydrates leads to a steady decrease in the sensitivity of the cells to insulin which in turn leads to the body having to make more and more insulin to get the same job done. This condition is known as Insulin Resistance and if left untreated it eventually leads to high cholesterol, heart disease, obesity and type II diabetes.