Thunder

Italy
December 17, 2006 11:54am CST
I am trying to convince a bunch of people who don't believe me when I say that you should actually see the lightning before you hear it as thunder, because light travels faster than sound. However, they go on thinking that the thunder comes before the lightning, ignoring my scientific proofs. And I would like to get some more. This is true is it not? Since light travels faster than sound, the lightning should be the first to be noticed.
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@vipul20044 (5794)
• India
17 Dec 06
You are right Lightening and thunder form at the same time. However if you are a distance away, lightening is seen first and thunder is heard later. The reason is simple. The flash of lightening travels at 186000 miles a second. Thunder travels at the speed of sound which is roughly 1000 feet a second.
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• India
18 Dec 06
u r rite... :)
@zotopec (307)
• Pakistan
17 Dec 06
but There is a difference dear. Lightening you have to see, while you dont have to listen to thunder. Means your sight will have to travel to see where lightening is, while thunder sound will travel itself to reach your ears. And sometimes due to ozone thickness your sight can't see a thing which is there....
@rosey3223 (1566)
• United States
18 Dec 06
From what I was learnt (lmao!!) in school...lightning comes first and then the thunder comes rolling in. And because a bolt of lightning travels so fast, the clap of thunder that you hear is from the zap of the bolt. And also I was taught that if you count (one one thousand, 2 one thousand, 3 one thousand...), for every one thousand that you count until you hear the thunder, that is how many miles away the lightning that struck was.
@rosey3223 (1566)
• United States
20 Dec 06
LoL!! Well like I said, that's what I was taught in school! Go talk to my teacher cause they learnt me wrong!!
@RAMONES (537)
• Belgium
19 Dec 06
No no no, not a mile ! Every second counts for about 340 meters, because thats approx. the sound of speed !
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@nirali78 (307)
• India
18 Dec 06
yes i know this light travels faster than sound.
@wsue1023 (1395)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Very interesting conversation. Enjoyed reading this so much more than many of the other conversations going on today. I love a good thunderstorm, but hadn't really thought about what came first, lightening or thunder. I know a lot of times we hear gently thunder, then see lightening, followed by the crashing sound that the lighting carries with it. Seems to me the lightening is separate from the thunder. The lightening has it's own sound. Is this not true?
• United States
17 Dec 06
Yeah you're right. You see the flash first, and then hear it. That part is true. Then there's the urban myth that if you count the seconds between the light and the sound you can tell how far away the strike was. I always believed that part to be true, and that it was a mile per second. Well imagine my suprise when I was talking to a Canadian and a Swede at the same time and they had completely different formulas for figuring out the distance! Not just a difference between miles and meters, either.
@medooley (1873)
• United States
17 Dec 06
You are right... but it isn't one second, it is one patato, two patato, three patato... LOL
• United States
17 Dec 06
nono it's one mississippi, two mississipi...
• Ireland
17 Dec 06
I agree that it's the flash first. However, I think it goes...tea and a bun...tea and a bun...te.....
• United States
18 Dec 06
you are right because light travels much faster than the speed of light
• United States
18 Dec 06
I think you are a little mixed up. Light cant travel faster than light. But it travels faster than sound.
• United States
19 Dec 06
Thunder is the sound of the shockwave caused when lightning instantly heats the air around it to up to 30 000 °C (54 000 °F). That super-heated air expands rapidly, then contracts as it cools.
@dellux (106)
• Brazil
20 Dec 06
i think it is true
• Nigeria
19 Dec 06
of course the lightning comes first light always travels faster than sound does thats simple physics
@terita (280)
• Pakistan
18 Dec 06
alchohol - alchohol
yes you are right
• India
18 Dec 06
Yes your right.Both occur at the same time but since the speed of sound is less than that of the light u hear thunder after lightning is seen.Usually people dont see the sky during lightning and hence believe that thunder is followed by lightning.
@pennycan2 (251)
• United States
18 Dec 06
i remember learning this in science, that is why you count from the time you see the flash til the time your hear the boom to see how far away the storm is from you. i'm sure this is silly, but i remember learning it as a child.
• Spain
18 Dec 06
We used to count how many seconds between lightning and thunder, so i guess i agree, thunder does come first.
@Samuelao (21)
• Brazil
18 Dec 06
Lightning - First you see the Lightning, then you hear the thunder
You are true... Light speed is much more faster than sound speed!
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
18 Dec 06
When I would hear a loud clap of thunder, I would duck in order not to be hit by the lightning. My dad told me that if I heard the thunder, I was lucky...that I hadn't been hit by the lightning. I've never forgotten that. And light does travel faster than sound, as I learned some years later. I'm already convinced you're right.
• United States
18 Dec 06
The flash of a lightning strike and resulting thunder occur at roughly the same time. But light travels at 186,000 miles in a second, almost a million times the speed of sound. Sound travels at the slower speed of one-fifth of a mile in the same time. So the flash of lightning is seen before thunder is heard. By counting the seconds between the flash and the thunder and dividing by 5, you can estimate your distance from the strike (in miles).
@calvin222 (1606)
• India
18 Dec 06
Well its a fact and all they have to do is stand and watch. when you count after you see the thunder the number of seconds you count X100metres before you hear the thunder is the distance to the place the thunder thundered.
@cheongyc (5072)
• Malaysia
18 Dec 06
You are right. I had experience it myself. I always see the flashes of the lightning firstly and hear the roar of the thunder later. Mayb people are confused when there is a sequence of thunders where they mistaken the lightning of the first thunder as the second one. They are also less scientific literate. Base on science fact, light is travelling at the speed of 3x10^8 m/s and sound is like 343m/s. The speed of light is unbeatable when compared to the speed of sound. So, it is valid that "we actually see the lightning before we hear it as thunder"
@abaskamal (149)
• Malaysia
18 Dec 06
I should think so too because light is many,many,many multiples faster than the speed of sound.
• India
18 Dec 06
yeah datz a good intrepetion unlike traditional belief's