Book to Disipline Children

1 2 3 Magic book cover - 1-2-3 Magic: Effective Discipline for Children 2-12
United States
January 10, 2007 11:33am CST
I have been having some problems with my 2 year old daughter, her behavior has been a cause for concern to me. She bites, and pinches and hits her older sisters for no reason, and throws temper tantrums if she doesn;t get her way. She also walk talks and defies everything she is told to do or stop doing. I took her to the doctor and he told me it was just her being 2. That it was a stage that she was going through. He did schedule a therapy session with a counselor and asked me to buy a book called 1.2.3. Magic, by Dr. Thomas W. Phelan. I was able to read the book i the first night. The concept of the book is to count when that are doing something you want them to stop. Say that's one when the behavior starts, after 5 seconds, say That's two, and finally in the behavior continues you say "That's three, now take a break" and then you send them to their room or a special time out place. The things that gets it to work is by not talking (other than the counting), and showing no emotion. So do you think that could be an effective way to get a child to behave? What other ideas would you suggest?
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• United States
14 Jan 07
That would be effective for some children, but not all. Although I don't have as severe a problem as you do, my daughter, now 3, will completely tune me out sometimes (sometimes being MOST of the time). She will completely ignore me at times. While this may be normal a "just a stage", I worry because she will do this even when she's putting herself in danger (going to close to the road, playing on the stairs, etc.). When her brothers are in school, she's usually fine, like with your daughter. But as soon as the crew is home together, it starts. That's also when the bickering starts. While I don't think she's in NEED of more attention, it (the bickering) is certainly from some sort of competition with her brothers for attention. As for her ignoring me...well, I haven't figured out the cause of that one. But as I was saying, different children need different ways of discipline. My daughter HATES time out (thank goodness). I start to count to 10 before she gets time out. As soon as she hears one, she knows. Sometimes she'll wait until I get to 8 to do anything to correct herself, but usually, she does. Otherwise it's time out. It hasn't made her stop her actions to begin with, so I need to work on that with her, but it has made it easier to control them once they start. I don't know if waiting 5 seconds between counting would work for my daughter since 5 seconds would give her enough time to completely forget that aI had even started counting... My dad told me once that he would always get a spanking while his brother would get grounded. He thought that was really unfair until he got older and realized that his parents understood he "got the message" more with a spanking while his brother, the more social of the two, really felt the "pain" from being grounded. While I don't promote spanking, I use this as an example of the need for different methods of discipline for different children. My dad would have preferred being grounded since he was usually cooped up in his room with a book anyway. I guess you just need to find the right button. Unfortunately, I still haven't figured it out for my 13 year old. Nothing has worked so far to motivate him to behave. Although, I could believe what everyone keeps telling me...that's it's just a stage...a very long stage... Good luck with your daughter. I would suggest ignoring the tantrums although you may need some ear plugs for awhile. And try the books suggestions. If it doesn't work out, at least you can say you tried it.
• United States
17 Jan 07
I have actually been following the book and it does seem to be working with her. Usually all I have to say is "That's One" and she corrects her behavior. I never thought I would be able to calm her down with something so simple. It is funny cause she can be playing in her room all day and when she does something wrong and I have to put her in time out, she screams like I am torturing her by putting her in her room.
@missyd79 (3438)
• United States
11 Jan 07
i was having the same problem with my son when he was 4, he was acting out in daycare. and his daycare provider actually advise that i take him to see outside help. His psychologist told me the same thing that it was a stage and he was looking for some attention and she too recommending that book. I tried it and after about a month I would get him to stop the behavior, but since then I took him out of that daycare and have in a private sitter and I also set aside time each night like a half hour before bed and after bath time that it is just me and him, either palying a game or reading books or coloring, and this has seem to stop his tanturms al together. Maybe your 2 year old is feeling liek she is getting attention she needs from you. You can try to set aside time each night where you are just interacting with just her and not with her and her sisters.
• United States
11 Jan 07
The thing is I spend tons more time with her than her sisters. I have her all day long just me and her while her sisters are at school, and she even helps me with my work and making lunch...etc. We play together all day while her sisters are at school and I always include her in the evenings also. I don't believe it is an attention thing.
@devideddi (1435)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Ok I have the book and I have read it. It works. It worked for me very well. this was several years ago when they were about hhmmmm 4 5 or 6. I am often complemented on their behavior. Now they are 16 and 18. It was just the other day when they kept putting off their chores when I said "now do I have to start counting?" They were slightly humiliated at the thought of disciplining them like I had when they were younger. my 7 year old is just not starting to push her limits and I am starting with her just a little. The trick to this is you Have To Stick With It At All Times. No wishy washy or don't forget and start to fuss or whatever. Good luck.