Can Atheism Itself Be Considered a Religion or Belief System

United States
January 14, 2007 10:34pm CST
Atheist seem to have definite beliefs and that belief is a conscious act to not believe in something they consider to be at best, myths. I understand that. But they also defend their beliefs and ideals, they are structured it seems, as in, there is a society. If not they wouldn't have a name, atheists. So does that make them a click, cult, clan, posse, a group of people connected in the same beliefs?
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• Canada
15 Jan 07
The phrase I would use to describe this is a "system of beliefs" or "believe system." They are firm in their beliefs in the lack of anything in which to believe. They believe in "nothing" yet "nothing is something." I would not call them a religion or a faith, simply a group of people who share the same beliefs. To believe in nothing is to believe in something
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
28 Jan 07
They do believe in something. Just because they don't believe in a supreme being, doesn't mean that they believe nothing. I'm sure that there are few Aethiests who don't believe firmly in Science. In fact, most probably lost their faith through scientific discovery.
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• United States
15 Jan 07
But you just did call it a religion. "...a group of people who share the same beliefs."
@sunshinecup (7871)
15 Jan 07
The only thing they really have in common is the belief there are no Gods. To me, this isn't enough to group them together as a cult or religion. They don't gather for No God meetings. They don’t have some rules they follow. They may share the same ideas as other Atheist, but these ideas are their own, not uniformed for them to learn and follow. So my answer in my opinion is… no.
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• United States
15 Jan 07
I just wrote an extremely long response to your comment, and then lost it when I tried to post it. So here is the abridged version. I directed you to: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion and pointed out that according to definitions 2 and 3 and maybe even 6 that atheism can indeed be considered a religion. They can be grouped together by the definition of atheism which is something along the lines of dibelief in a god, or disbelief in a supreme being or beings. There are even books on how to practice atheism, doesn't that denote some sort of grouping?Another point is this: If I choose to not believe in a god or a supreme being but do believe in "something" I would still be grouped into the, faith, if you will, of atheism. When I am in fact, not an atheist.
15 Jan 07
“2 a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. “ And “3 the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.” Key words, “set” and “practices” there are no sets of practices that Atheist follow or agree upon. They only hold one thing in common, the disbelief of all Gods and Deities. I will go further in to this in a minute. “6 something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. “ This in regards as a passion. As in, "I help my children with their school work, religiously." That has nothing to do with being religious, but determined, it’ means I am very passionate about helping them every night faithfully. To try and claim Atheism is a religion because of one idea they all share would also be the same as claiming Stay at home Mothers as a religion or Democrats is a religion. A religion contains, set rules, code of conduct, ritiuls and guildlines all must follow. You may have seen books on how to be an Atheist, but that isn't the same idea here. These books are more along the line as advise, not a set of rules. Again, IMO Atheism is not a religion, not even close.
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• United States
16 Jan 07
Alright, alright, you got it!
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
16 Apr 08
Yes, I do think so! Many would disagree, saying their belief has been proven. I have an inquiring mind so love to study science (and lots of other things) but when I first seriously looked into it, I was shocked that it is so very unproven! And how much of science actually refutes it! So if you believe something devoutly, but have no proof or supporting evidence, what do you call it? And some adherents react very zealously, and sometimes almost violently to another view! But what is most disturbing (to me) is that as a teacher you can actually be fired for mentioning the many problems, anomalies and contradictions with the theory. And out here, in 'real' life (and virtual) you can be hated and called names for doing so. Hmmm, that all does sound like a cult!
27 Jan 07
Atheism, and Agnosticism, are religions older than Christianity. The misuse of the terms today is due to christian propaganda, they are now used as generic terms, but were originally 2 very accurately defined faiths.
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• United States
19 Jun 07
Adrenochrome, if you come back to this post someday, I'm wondering if you can expand on that. About the misuse of the terms that is. That's interesting. If not what it is now, then what was atheism considered originally? My Thoughts: http://onthedaytoday.blogspot.com/
@Citra1881 (528)
• Indonesia
16 Jan 07
i think atheism cannot be considered as a religion, because it does not have "rules" or "points to follow"
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• United States
26 Jan 07
But isn't the rule and the point to follow just that, "Do not believe in a higher power." I mean, if you do, then you are no longer an atheist. So there is a rule and a point...right?
28 Jan 07
no I think Atheism is a lack of belief in higher power and you cant create a movement out of people who have a lack of belief in common. Would you try to create a movement out of people who say, don't believe in aliens, not watch TV or don't like peanut butter. Atheism is not a religion but you could say that it is a faith, only that faith is probably in evolution and science. that makes them scientists not religious.
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• United States
18 Jan 07
I think atheism can be seen as a belief system for sure, and even a religion in some instances. Anything, though can be considered a belief system.
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• United States
26 Jan 07
Do you? Well its true, no matter what I can see it as a religion, with a practice or practices, and even followers. I say this because once you go against the cardinal law, you are no longer an atheist, you are no longer a part of the group.