A wall between the US and Mexico?

@nw1911guy (1131)
United States
January 25, 2007 10:41pm CST
How many out there think this will actually help the problem? Do you really think that's the problem or is the Mexican government really to blame?
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@sunshinecup (7880)
26 Jan 07
I think the Mexican government is to blame as well as the US. If Mexico could get their economy together so their citizens are not practically starving, they wouldn't make the desperate move of running to another country. Then on the flip side, if the US wouldn't make it so darn easy for them to find work here illegally, it wouldn’t be so darn convenient for them to do. At that, then the Mexicans could possibly, with no choice left, put their foot down to their own government a fight for reform.
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Yeah, the only thing I can see to do here is have stiff penalties for employing illegal aliens.
@ashjoe76 (1434)
• India
26 Jan 07
More walls? Oh, no. Both the governments need to understand each other and be more tolerant. The situation has to be seen from the side of the people too. Regarding illegal immigration, we really need to get to the heart of the matter and identify the real reason behind it. Is there any way we can solve the problem of poverty or the identity crisis? I was really moved by a documentary called Crossing Arizona, which deals with this issue. You can get more information about it as www.crossingaz.com
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I think it's pretty fair to say a wall isn't going to work. I mean, how many tunnels have been found that cross the border?
• United States
27 Jan 07
There are many to blame. I do not believe that a wall between countries is an answer at all. But then again, I do not believe that the immigration is that big of a problem. After all, ALL European-Americans that live in the United States came from immigrants. Had the Native American/Indigenous peoples had laws against invaders, we would all probably be considered illegal too. Can you imagine deporting all European-Americans (like many indigenous believe should be the case) like we do to the Mexican peoples (and others) who come into this country in modern days? They are one in the same.
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
27 Jan 07
See but you're missing the point. My grandfather was an immigrant. He came here legally. It is an extremely big deal. When these people come over the border, they leave trash and litter on paths that are beginning to look like highways, they contribute to crime in areas the pass through, they burden our health-care system without contributing to it, and then, the money that could be going back into our economy is instead going to Mexico. Never mind the money being made and blood being shed because of the people smugglers. I highly encourage you to read up on this. This is in fact a problem and a major one at that. Do you realize that right now someone could pretty readily drive a pickup truck containing a nuclear device in without any problems?
• United States
27 Jan 07
Do you realize that the Americans who live here do the SAME pollution to this country that people from other countries coming in, do too. We're one of the most wasteful, greedy, dirty populations that there are. You cannot say we don't destroy this land just as you claim others do.
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• United States
27 Jan 07
Also, they would have problems driving a truck with a nuclear device. So that's a little bogus. AND NO immigrants that came here first were really "legal" because that sort of system didn't exist. Had it, we'd all have been deported, too, because the Native Americans sure as hell didn't want us here. They'd have kicked us out long ago had we not committed genocide against them.
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@MrNiceGuy (4143)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I think a lot of people are at fault. The Mexican government for not trying hard enough and not giving their citizens incentives to stay and also for outright supporting emmigration into OUR country. Also businesses in the US that go the cheap route and hire illegals for money reasons. Also the US government for not doing enough about it and not making laws about how businesses can hire or the penalties for it.
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• United States
24 Feb 07
I don't know of any American big business that hire illegals.
@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
24 Feb 07
Actually Crispy, Walmart got in some hot water over it a couple of years back as I recall.
@lonewolfnan (4367)
• Canada
16 Feb 07
I am from canada but I feel the US government is forming a new wall around the country on both sides of the border as they keep other countries out and her people in.It is like watching a new China being born blocking out any and all communication to save her citizens from the evils of the outer world.It took China a long time to change its beliefs but the US seems to be heading towards it. Please tell me I am wrong about this as the US makes it more and more difficult for us to visit there.
@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
16 Feb 07
OH you're absolutely right. The mentality seems to be that we need to trade freedom for security. I really don't agree with this. It bothers me deeply but it's outside my control. Not to mention, the wall along Mexico will be hugely ineffective.
• United States
28 Jan 07
I think do something is better than doing nothing. I wonder why the people of Mexico don't stand up and fight to change their country instead of coming up here to live. They don't make much money here, and there have been so many cases of slave labor. When the Americans got tired of being pushed around we fought back even when it was against each other. I wish the best for all people I just would hope that some day the people of Mexico would fight for their country as hard as they fight to stay here.
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
28 Jan 07
You have a very valid point. I've wondered that same thing now and then.
• United States
28 Jan 07
i think it will not stop them from coming over illegally but it will cut down on how many there are so i think we should do it it will help but maybe add a little more guards over the border
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
28 Jan 07
They are working on adding guards to the border. Border Patrol is hiring 8000 more personnel. Not sure how many will make it through the academy or what they will use them for once they are at their station but they are working on it.
@dmajkc (196)
• United States
27 Jan 07
The wall is a great idea.. The problem is they didn't fund it, or only funded part of it. I blame the Mexican Government as well. They have no incentive not to send workers here, because the workers who come here, send billions of dollars back to Mexico. If the US really wanted to stop it, they would cut off all Western Union Transactions, and Bank transfers to Mexico. But, as long as there is an appetite for cheap labor in this country, that will never happen
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
27 Jan 07
Well even if they fully funded the wall, it won't work. Remember, necessity is the mother of invention. They would just cut, drive, cover, climb or whatever they had to do to get over. That was what I mentioned above in one of the comments. You have a very good point on the western union money transfers. They should require the person to show documentation that they were here legally. I think the cheap labor thing would be fixed if there were stiff penalties for employing undocumented workers.
@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
26 Jan 07
While the Mexican Government is ultimately to blame. * I mean come on.. really there is a government in a state of Mexico giving GPS systems to people wanting to cross the border * I think a fence, if done correctly would curb the problem. I'm talking large, reenforced, double fence.
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@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Yeah something like China's Great Wall. It's been proven that the steel barriers don't work, they just take a torch, cut a hole big enough for a truck to get through, weld hinges on the piece that came out of the middle and padlock if from the Mexico side. lol