Creationist drivel

United States
January 29, 2007 7:35am CST
I was watching the Penn And Teller BS sow on Creationism and to say I found it particularly annoying would be more than a bit of an understatement. Incensed is more like it. Creationism, or "Intelligent Design" or whatever you want to call it has no place in the science classroom. Are students subject to Creationist propaganda where you are?
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@Fargale (760)
• Brazil
8 Feb 07
In public schools here in Brazil, it's usually just mentioned as an afterthought in preliminary biology classes in grade school, when they get to the subject of evolution. Kinda like "see, there's also this weird story that some people believe in, but that's not based in real world evidence, it's just faith. So let's get back to the science class". Unfortunately, there are exceptions, but they're rare around here.
• United States
8 Feb 07
See, I don't really have a problem with that. Probably because the creationist angle is dealt with so flippantly. Thanks for your input--I greatly appreciate it.
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• United States
28 Feb 07
It wouldn't be so bad if they gave evolution equal time in Church. :^)
@Fargale (760)
• Brazil
28 Feb 07
What you call "arrogance" is simply the honesty of trusting our observations of the real world, instead of an old story written thousands of years ago, when people still thought that the earth was flat and the sun rotated around it. It's simple intellectual honesty and respect for reality.
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@owens07 (325)
• Puerto Rico
28 Feb 07
When's the last time you "observed" a species evolving into a new species. If you're not intellectually arrogant, I challenge you to name five off the top of your head in under 20 seconds. ... Can't do it can you? Like I said arrogance.
• United States
28 Feb 07
Well, let's see, first there was the Galapagos Tortoise's evolution of a longer neck so it could forage easier; there's the bat's evolution of wings so it can glide; there's the Ostrich's evolution of stronger legs so that it didn't compete in the skies with the other raptors; there's the evolution from gallimimus, to archaeoptyryx, to the modern bird; there's the evolution of the giraffe's neck; there's the evolution of the pinnipeds ability to exist under water. Evolution doesn't just involve one species morphing into another, it involves species changing colors; developing chemical weapons--like a snake's venom, for example; changing the way they communicate. Is this arrogance, no, it's science. And as my friends have stated, no true scientist questions the theory of evolution.
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@starr4all (2863)
27 Feb 07
I'm glad I'm not the only one who watches that Penn and Teller show. I too was incensed about what they are trying to teach in the classroom. I would hope that my area wouldn't, but I have a feeling it does. Off base here there are an over abundance of Mormons, so I would say it is. The school my son goes too is on base so I don't think they teach that. Then again, he's only in kindergarten. But I will be looking out for this crap. It's not appropriate and yes, it is propaganda.
@Piratesware (2888)
• Indonesia
28 Feb 07
well can u tell more detailed.
@jricbt (1454)
• Brazil
8 Feb 07
They used to be only on one state of the country where I live, and only on religion class (yes, there were religion class then). Not anymore.
@owens07 (325)
• Puerto Rico
27 Feb 07
Mainly just evolutionary propaganda. However, many students are starting to question the propaganda being shoved down their throats and thinking critically.
• United States
28 Feb 07
If they are doubting evolution because they're afraid of losing their immortal souls, it's not thinking critically. It's brainwashing.
@starr4all (2863)
28 Feb 07
The Hermit, Well said. Faith has no place in our schools unless they are private schools.
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@owens07 (325)
• Puerto Rico
28 Feb 07
Or they could be doubting evolution because scientists all over the world are starting to do so. Apparently you're oblivious to the current scientific debate regarding the theory.