Is there any proof? Help me!

@soadnot (1606)
Canada
January 31, 2007 10:09am CST
An Atheist friend of mine said she would believe, if I could show her proof. Is there a way to show her?
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
4 Feb 07
Not really. What you could do is show her a way to see the God inside herself, that may help her believe in herself. That's more important than apparitions and burning bushes and blood seeping from hands and all those spooky things. May the Force be with you. The higher force that is!
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
4 Feb 07
i dont get it
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
5 Feb 07
God is not external to you, never has been. When people get in touch with their own divinity they are absolutely amazing. It's inside, always inside, never external. When your girlfriend sees how amazing she is, she will understand and then you will say "see, now you have proof".
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
5 Feb 07
By the way, I'm not a God fearing born again Christian who reads the bible and preaches platitudes. But I'm also not an athiest. You can't convince your girlfriend, she has to experience it for herself. Dogma sucks, that part of being an athiest I agree with.
@jricbt (1454)
• Brazil
1 Feb 07
I will warn you it is very difficult. I am an atheist myself, came from a catholic church and I never saw one single thing that could be remotely used as proof of god. The problem, if we may call it a problem, is that belief is a question of personal faith. Some people just don't have it (it is god´s will if you want), and so, giving them some kind of proof is very hard.
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
thats called "brainwashed"
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@jricbt (1454)
• Brazil
5 Feb 07
I don't like the term brainwash (or brainwashed). It is a generalization and, in my opinion, it is not applicable to all cases. I know both sides of the question, people that are atheists and believers, few of them are brainwashed or even near something that can be compared to that.
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
5 Feb 07
if we are made to believe our parents believe, its not our own thoughts. Its the thoughts of our environments and we grow into them. We are persuaded to believe in these "beliefs". The definition of brainwash is: the application of coercive techniques to change the beliefs or behavior of one or more people for personal or political purposes. So, it is brainwash. Telling your kids about Jesus and God, heaven and hell, thats the application of these coercive techniques. They change the child beliefs and behavior (to be good so you cango to heaven). And as we know, children are the most gullible of them all, because they have no beliefs to begin with, therefor, nothing to challenge your beliefs with. thanks, think I'm gonna start a discussion about this
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@mags31ca (203)
• Canada
1 Feb 07
there is really no way to prove God's exixtence, that is why they call it faith.
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
i have faith in my imaginary friend too
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• United States
15 Feb 07
Lol, good one. There's no way the to physically prove the existance or any deity, whether it's the christian God or the Hindu Shiva. Probably because Gods or Goddess' of any kind are known not to be tangible beings -- usually. The only reason I'm not an atheist myself (lol) is probably because I believe I shouldn't be so arrogant as to assume just because it's not tangible that it doesn't exist. Too many scientists after all have made the same folly.
• Philippines
2 Feb 07
Just give her the holy bible and all her questions will be answered.
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
actually thats the worst thing i can give cuz its filled with controdictions and illogical thinking
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• United States
5 Feb 07
No--the point of faith is that you believe in it without proof. Otherwise, it is science.
@soadnot (1606)
• Canada
6 Feb 07
o wow, thats great thinking! 5/5 for that one! haha
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• Philippines
7 Feb 07
Proving the existence of God is like proving the existence of love. You can't see it, you just feel it. If you believe God to be real, then He is. If your friend is asking for solid evidence...well, she won't ever believe then. =P
• Canada
7 Feb 07
umm, but you just proved the existence of love by saying you can just "Feel" it. you can "feel" love whether or not you believe in it it is impossible to "feel" god
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• Philippines
8 Feb 07
You feel the existence of a god through your faith.
@geejoy (344)
• Philippines
8 Feb 07
her life.....who else can she attribute her life.....all things around her are proofs that someone supreme is existing.....no one within our level can do all these wondrous things...only a supreme being can do these things...