Global Warming Is Only The Tip Of The Iceberg

Melting Ice Shelf - Polar bear on ice.
@Thomas73 (1467)
Switzerland
February 5, 2007 6:26am CST
Although global warming has been in the spotlight of the news recently due to the new found evidence that it is indeed caused by human activity, it is only one of many symptoms of a stressed out planet. Man is pushing the resistance of Earth's biogeochemical system to its limits and the experts reckon that the breaking point is soon approaching. Human-caused environmental changes are upsetting the natural balance of the planet's system as well as its climate. For instance, did you know that: - 50% of the Earth land surface is now domesticated for human use; - 75% of the world's fisheries are fully or over-exploited; - the composition of today's atmosphere is far outside the range of natural variability the Earth has maintained for the past 650,000 years; - our planet is currently in the middle of its 6th mass-extinction event. Scary, isn't it? Greed and careleness are most probably responsible for the sorry state of our planet, and we are now in trouble with old Mother Nature because some unscrupulous leaders -- in politics and industry -- who didn't care about the legacy they were leaving to the next generations. It would be useless to punish the culprits, as the damage has already been done, but we need to fix it, as well as identify precisely and eliminate the causes of such a global mess. Has any of you thought about what he/she was going to do, at the level of the individual, to counter this approaching catastrophe? I, for one, am a bit at a loss when I realise the extent of the damage done to the planet.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
5 Feb 07
The polar bears in that picture were actually standing on ice that was beaten by waves. I read that it wasn't actually melting, but because of high seas that the iceberg got eroded away like that. Not sure it makes a huge difference, but w/e
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@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 07
Our beautiful planet is doing it best to counter all the stuff that we humans do. We are supposed to take care of it, yet we have exploited it tremedously. Those with the money need to be motivated to spend those huge profits to come up with measures to counter our effect on this earth. We can do much as a group to motivate them before it is too late. Going on this way will eventually lead to massive things that you and I may not survive. It behooves us to do what we can while we can.
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@Eskimo (2315)
5 Feb 07
Ask 10 experts and get 10 different replies, then one I recently saw was that over 90% of global warming (I perefer to use Climate Change) is caused by natural means, due to 30,000 year cycle for earth circling the sun(distance between earth & sun varies considerably), sunspot activity, volcanic activity and even tidal variations all affect climate change.This leaves less than 10% caused by human activity (and we shouldn't be complacent about that). The gas produced by cows (methane) is 20 x more potent than the exhaust from cars. The most efficient way to cut climate change from humans is to reduce the human population drasticaly (by more than 50%).
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
5 Feb 07
That's strange because last week's conference on this issue concluded that the chances were 90% that human activity was responsible for the climatic variations that are currently observed. As for population control with humans, Nature is already retaliating with volcanic eruptions, earthquakes (followed or not by tidal waves), disease proliferation, and a few other means. To reduce human population by more than 50% would maybe require the intervention of Man himself. How about a global thermonuclear war? ;)
• United States
5 Feb 07
Global thermonuclear war....wasn't that a line from Wargames? Imagine that one happening. Just a push of a button. This could become factual. It is a scarey thought. But seriously, something does need to be done about how we as humans "live". We need to be more proactive in our recycling efforts and changing our habits in which we perform our daily living.
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@Eskimo (2315)
5 Feb 07
One problem with recycling (when I studied ecology some years ago) is that it can use more energy to recycle than using raw materials to produce goods, I don't know if that is still the case, but would not have thought it would have differed greatly. For reducing population, I was thinking more on the lines of flu epidemics (which happen every 50 or so years), and greatly encouraging birth control, to try and avoid population decrease by more violent means.
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@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
21 Feb 07
I wish more people would start discussions like this, instead of the more superficial ones we often get. I just don't think people are taking the issue of Global Warning seriously enough. Maybe they should watch the movie " The Day After Tomorrow". Seriously, all the little things we can do will help. 1. Take a bus/ train whenever possible, instead of driving. 2. Recycle your plastics, garden waste, glass and paper. Many councils have the facilities to for this now. 3. Mulch a lot of your garden waste, it's great for the garden. 4. Put all your food scraps in a compost bin. 5. Seal your house well, including insulation, so you can cut down on air conditioner/ heater use.
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
21 Feb 07
Thanks for the compliment and for the tips to protect the environment more efficiently. I realise that I already follow them.
• United States
5 Feb 07
What I find most discouraging is that there are no large-scale efforts to educate the public on the science behind all this. Denial is the most natural human position, and there are zillions of ways to support denial. I know very well that the serious period of cold that part of the US is going through right now will be taken as "proof" by some people that global warming isn't real. There's been virtually no public discussion of the fact that global warming will lead to vast extremes of weather. By the way, it's seven degrees this morning in my little corner of the world, where temps below twenty are fairly unusual.
5 Feb 07
I disagree, I think that 2007 has seen much greater awareness of the issues we all face. Certainly in the UK global warming features on the news nearly every night. There are countless TV documentaries that explain the issues. The problem we have is that people are agreeing that we have global warming but they are not doing anything about it. If we all did our bit we could make a difference.
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@Lardiel (280)
• Romania
21 Feb 07
the extent of the damage done to the planet is trully monstruos. and we should be worrying more about ourselves than of the planet. and i don't say that because i'm selfish or don't care about the planet. but think of it this way. humans have been on this planet for only a second if you think about the hole natural history of the wolrd. if we damage the world so much as to make it uninhabitable it's going to be our problem not nature's. the earth will be as it was once again after we are gone and not causing problems. in a few million years it will have regenerated. but we won't.
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
21 Feb 07
Still, as we are part of Nature, Nature's problem remains our problem. And when Man has gone extinct, another species will take over and cause trouble again.
@Lardiel (280)
• Romania
21 Feb 07
that is true but at least that will take a long time. anyway man going extinct is not the solution. we should take care of our home or we will not have one soon. and there are a lot of things we can do to save this planet. but the thing is that goverments and the people rich or powerful enough to influence the way things tick care more about making money and building influence than they care about the planet itself. but maybe they will come arround at some point and see the extend of the damage done and realise they were wrong. let's just hope it will not be to late.
• United States
5 Feb 07
Really, the polar bear is on the endangered species list because of this. The polar bear! And the Earth's temperature get's hotter by one degree every year.
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@lauriefnp (5111)
• United States
5 Feb 07
I agree that we have indeed been careless with our resources and that greed has caused us to live without regards for the environment for far too long. Add to that the fact that there most likely is some natural "climate changing" going on also, and we do have a real mess. We can either wait for all of the politicians and the powers that be to discuss, analyze, re-discuss, ponder, and propose solutions, or we can all do the responsible thing and start making a concerted effort to conserve resources. Simple things such as switching to energy efficient fluorescent bulbs, always turning off lights when not in a room, turning down heat at night and when not at home, updating with energy-efficient doors and windows, and recycling of cans, bottles, glass, and newspaper are things that we all can and should be doing. There are many things that we throw out without a second thought that we could find a way to reuse somewhere. A little bit of effort from every single person alive would make a monumental impact. I won't even get into all of the wasted resources in large cities like LA, NY city, and Las Vegas. I know that the lights and glitz are part of the appeal, but there should be times when the lights have to be out. Flashing lights for 24/7 is a waste of electricity. And have you ever noticed when you are in a big city how the office buildings all seem to be brightly lit up, right up to the 40th floor, even at night?
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
5 Feb 07
I have to disagree in some respects with you. I am not convinced that it is man who is responsible for global warming. There are to many unknown factors, such as planetary cycles, sun cycles, radiation, and cosmic dust to name a few. How do you explain the warm and cold spells the earth has gone through before man arrived on the scene? There was a report by top scientists back in 1977 that stated we were entering a new ige ace. The winter of '76-77 was bitterly cold compared to normal. At some point, the earth will go through another ice age and then who are the extremists going to blame? There may be trends that are caused by increasing population, and those might be irreversable. As far as the mass-extinction event, I don't know where that came from. Life on this planet is fragile and who knows what events might cause it to become extinct. I do not blame the condition of our planet on greed and carelessness. Who knows if conditions would not be like they are if we were still living like we were 500 years ago with no advancements? Our earth is way to complex for some computer models and off the wall "greenists" to make all these assumptions and declare the end of the world. I don't buy it for one second.
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@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
5 Feb 07
The statement that Man is more than likely responsible for the change in the climate -- and various other interference with the fine natural balance -- was issued by experts and therefore scientists, and not some greenpeace (greenpiss? ;)) plonkers. So, I have no reason to refute their claim. I am also aware of the cycling of climates that has occurred since the 6.5 or so billion years since the Earth was formed. The apparition of life on this planet had already upset the climatic balance and polluted the atmosphere with this pretty dangerous element called oxygen. The recent activities of Man cannot be ignored either, methinks.
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• India
5 Feb 07
yes its true and the problem is graver than we think, global warming is just the beginning to mass scale global breakdown, slowly we are destroyin the ecology due to our selfish interests, and we will have to pay for it someday
• United States
5 Feb 07
Please visit the following website and join it as well! Pass it on to as many people as you can! Here it is: www.stopglobalwarming.org Stop being lazy and do something, that is if you are living on planet Earth!
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• United States
5 Feb 07
Thomas73, I have been trying to raise awareness on mylot in regards to this issue but because I am new to this site, I have had little or no impact (see my discussions if you are interested). It also seems that folks prefer to stay on the lighter side when it comes to responding to discussions. Hoever, I believe it is imperative to discuss these global issues because it is no longer about politics or religion or the ecnomomy but rather, it has become a moral issue which crosses racial and cultural boundaries. To maintain our hope is one of the most vital ways to keep the dream of living on this planet alive. If we despair, thus losing our hope, then we are most certainly doomed. Thus, what I do is try to teach children to make positive changes by being aware of their use of resources. I also pay very close attention to my use of resources on a daily basis. I turn off computers, lights, open blinds, etc - all very small things but which can add up! Ever notice the order of the catch-all phrase: "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle"? There is a definite reason for this. We MUST reduce our use of resources, as many people have already mentioned in this discussion. Use less, stay at home more often, and if it's broken, then fix it - don't throw anything away unless it is truly unuseable. Put a brick in the back of your toilet (your toilet will use less water when flushed). Change out your old lightbulbs with newer, more efficient ones. But all this being said, it still amounts to so little when society on the whole is so F$%&ing complacent! But more than anything, it is ignorance which will kill us in the end! We must share our knowledge, our passions, our beliefs, in order for them to grab ahold of ignorance and stomp it out! Mental capacity also goes along way I believe. It was described in a movie called "Waking Life" by Richard Linklater in a scene with Ethan Hawke. In the scene, Hawke speaks about a brand new crossword puzzle being done by a group of inmates in a prison. Hardly any answers were right. But then, they had the same inmates do a crossword puzzle which was older, and which therefore had already been solved...and the inmates answers were significantly increased! It's as if we can influence the world around us with the capacity of our minds alone...that once the answers are out there, they can be shared by a universal consiousness. This can also perhaps assist humans in the fight to heal the planet. Once solutions are created, then we have to share those solutions with as many people as we can, in hopes of bringing them more to the surface of the human consciousness. These are just some of my thoughts without getting too gloomy about an otherwise disheartening subject.. Stay focused and true to the cause, but remember that the battle starts at home. Teach your children well! Thank you very much, Thomas73 for opening a meaningful discussion! -InspirationStation
@panger (126)
• India
6 Feb 07
Yeah... calculations show that major part of pollution is due to Human activities. But we have to think of its causes. Fossil fuels usage is main cause of pollution.But without them no car or bus can run. For this,alternative energy should be used for vehicles. Even though there is a chance of using electrical motors in vehicles there is problem of storing electrical energy. So, alternative technology can bring a difference. As an individual,im working on development of this alternative technology, which uses concept of EMpiston. I think problem is not with people who use the technology but is with scientists who develop the technology. I'm not saying that they did wrong by inventing them, but they should also think of effects by them. When it is once found,the technology should not enter market. This is work of government Thanks for your discussion
• Canada
5 Feb 07
Thomas73 is quite right about his statistics, and a whopping 60%+ of that 90% is due to emissions out of North America. Yeah, I found it nice that it was at least published this time in the States and made its way into the media vernacular, but what I found most interesting about the story was the bit where some oil company lobbyists were offering $10,000 USD per scientist willing to disagree - not *debunk*, mind you, but "undermine the research", i.e. say nasty things about the scientists and their methods, not their results, in an attempt to discredit the results in the eyes of people who couldn't really understand the research in the first place, e.g. most American voters. People trust scientists, by and large, and purchasing scientific "honesty" is a noble tradition of dirty politics. Charming, really. A last tidbit: many geologists and climatologists claim that we've been overdue for the beginning stages of an ice age for decades, now, and that it's overdue mainly *because* of global warming. A couple of degrees centigrade up or down might not seem like much, but it's certainly made a difference up here this winter. Anybody who doesn't believe in Global Warming might well have changed their minds if they'd spent this winter in Southern BC. Weird storms, bizarre and extreme temperature changes, and not a single real winter for a decade and a half. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in Greater Vancouver who doesn't believe in Global Warming, because we're living through its consequences as we speak.
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
5 Feb 07
It is more than scary! Most people are playing the part of an osterich, (head in the sand trick). In the final analysis, if we go too far then it will be our childrens problem!! No second chances once the point of no return is breached. But let the polititians and the powers to be have the story their way, see what they end up with!!
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@sandy70 (26)
• India
6 Feb 07
Unless the govt. of USA do something about this, the clock will keep on ticking.
• India
6 Feb 07
ya, today the humans force our environment to its maximum. these are all because of selfishness.
• India
6 Feb 07
Now the global warming is the big issue in all over the world.Some bodies are telling, the global warmings only dsue to the tip of the ice berg.But in my view its not on the ice berg, its only due to environmental.Now a days most of the places no environmental protection.Think that in global warming 70% due to environmental and 30% due to ice bergs.The ice bergs only spoils the sea only.But the total environment spoils the beauty of the whole world.So the mostly global warming not on the tip of the ice bergs.
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
6 Feb 07
Thanks for showing that you didn't understand at all the discussion at hand and for making a complete fool of yourself. I'm looking forward to more posts like this so I can have a good laugh from time-to-time! :D
@Alphasee (389)
• United States
5 Feb 07
It's sad about how negative the whole subject is. I wish things could change, and I wish we could take back all the terrible things that have happened. Unfortunately, none of that can happen, and we're going to have to deal with it as best as possible. Sooner, rather than later, something is going to happen to the point where people will die. You should continue on the 6th mass-extinction event thing, I'm curious as to what you mean. It happened very quickly, the terribleness we're at. It's no longer acceptable for companies to hide more fuel-efficient ways of burning fossil fuels. We have the technology, I don't know why we don't use it.
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• Indonesia
5 Feb 07
Okay quit complaining and regreting what has been done. now what we have to do is start reducing the usage of fossil fuel as much as you can and start looking for alternative energy (as for car you can use hybird technology for the present time. it can save a lot of fuel you know). As for myself i want to continue my study abroad in renewable energy specializing in hydrogen. hydrogen is a new form of energy technology that some countries really invest of it. it will need a lot of engineering work and research before it can be commercialzed. wish me luck guys note: add me if you want to be my friend
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