Child has cell phone and biological dad says "NO"

United States
February 9, 2007 10:20am CST
OK does your child have a cell phone at age 11? We have a court order that states everyday contact between child being able to talk to either parent. Well biological dad says "It will not come to my house" "She is to young to have one" Now keep in mind that when she is here she can talk to her Dad as much as she wants to, but when she is at her Dads house weeks will go by until phone call gets through. He records telephone conversations, refuses to allow her to carry her cell phone and has threatened to smash it if it comes to his house with her. Don't you believe that any child living in 2 homes should be able to speak to their parents without any complications? Are you having similar problems with your ex? What would you do in this situation?
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• Canada
9 Feb 07
in most cases i would agree that 11 is too young for a child to have a cell. however in your case i think it would be acceptible especially because as you stated she needs to be able to talk to both parents every day. i know that some people would say have the child call when she is home or call the child at a specific time every day to talk but this doens't always work. i kind of have a same situation. my daughter only goes to her dad's every second weekend but i'm suposed to be allowed to talk to her once. her dad got a cell and said that way i'll always be able to reach them. they don't answer the home phone when i call and barely ever answer the cell. so it's a good thing he got it so i can always reach them. anyway in your case it'd make sure she keeps the cell. the only reason he doens't seem to want her to have it is because he won't be in control of when you call or won't be able to record the conversation. just comprimise that she have it after school or on in the evenings so you can call between a 3 hours perios. don't just use it to spy cause that's probably what he's thinking.
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• United States
9 Feb 07
I'm glad to hear you are working with a reasonable situation. At least some kids out there aren't put in the situation that mine is. Your child is lucky for this. Good parenting for the both of you! Wish it could work for my daughter.
• United States
9 Feb 07
I do think that 11 is too young for a cell phone. The problem here isn't the cell phone though, the problem is the child not being able to talk to her parents. If you have a court order stating that she is allowed to talk to you daily then you need to take him to court and make him comply. Also, I don't know what state you live in, but in most states recording telephone conversations without the consent of both parties is illegal. You need to contact your attorney (or an attorney if you don't have one) and get this issue before a judge immediately! Your daughter needs to be able to talk to you when she is visiting with her dad. She does not need to be allowed to bring the cell phone, but she does need to be allowed to use his phone to call you. Also, if she brings the phone and he smashes it, unless he paid for it then he will be legally responsible for replacing it.
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• United States
9 Feb 07
Yes, recording is illegal, but if you read above response that I wrote you will find more info regarding why the cell phone. We have been back to court and most likely will be going again. Problem was before he stated that i don't call at all, but I had phone records to prove that I did. Now burden of proof is on my to prove he records. Just recently he wrote it to an email so now that burden is off of me. He is sick for doing this. Our daughter knows about it and feels trapped. He tells her that when I tell her that "I love her" it's child abuse and that's why he records conversations. She is so put out with this. Cell phone is for her, her privacy, to communicate with both of her parents free of will, and to know that she isn't being recorded and that puts her out of the middle. She loves it, but wants it with her for his house to. He still has her in this bad postition and it stresses her out.
@SageMother (2277)
• United States
9 Feb 07
In this situation I would go back to court and tell them that he is refusing to l ive up to the agreements set down in the clauses addressing daily contact. Short, sweet, to the point. If the court decides that she cannot have the phone then so be it. but I wold make sure he had to state his position in a venue where it was documented with all the other orders concerning the child.
• United States
9 Feb 07
I have to completely agree here. The best way to handle situations like this is through the court. You don't want to put your child in the middle of what is certainly a nasty situation between you and the dad. Perhaps you can get the court to set up a specific time when she is allowed to contact you or something.
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• United States
9 Feb 07
There are so many reasons to go back to court and make Huge changes concerning my daughter, but on the cell phone alone there are specific times already set forth on communication. Up until 7:00 pm. But reason for getting her one is they always make sure they are gone during the times that I call her. And at the very minimal time she is there and they are home they record our telephone conversations and my daughter is the one that told me about this. She has already caught them in the middle of the night (while going to the bathroom) listening to the tapes. Since then they put a kid alarm on her bedroom door so they know when it opens. He refuses to give me his cell phone and his wifes cell phone so that if there is no answer at their house I can call cell phones to talk to her. He has all ways of contacting me or her at any time, but refuses to share any info. And it's all documented that he refuses all forms of communication unless at his house so he can record. Makes my daughter feel alienated and not being able to tell me things that she wants to.