It's Not What You Know It's Who You Know

@wolfie34 (26771)
United Kingdom
February 15, 2007 3:52pm CST
How many times has this saying rung true? Someone has got a job because of nepotism (their relative works in the same job/department) or because someone has hobnobbed in the right places and partied in the right circles. Sometimes qualifications do not matter, if you know the right people you are in, this may sound incredibly unfair but I've experienced it so many times, what do you think? Ever lost out because you didn't know the right people?
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@patootie (3592)
15 Feb 07
Probably, but I suspect I just don't know about it .. I do have friends in high places, but I have never ever asked them/him/her/it to help me get an edge on anyone .. even though I am sure they would oblige .. But it's generally known that some folks will always find life that bit easier because they 'know' certain folks, and can get a 'leg up' so's to speak
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Feb 07
Hmmm sore point, 'leg up' this girl who had only been in the company five minutes was, well for want of a better word sha**ing one of the bosses, it was a job I went for and it meant a relocation with all the perks that went with it. She applied and got it, I was so livid, that I did a few 'things' to make my point.
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@lpetges (3036)
• United States
16 Feb 07
yes, its been that way for decades! that is just a part of life. if you want to get anywhere and be successful-its who you know, and if your parents give you their money. thats about it. the others that have made it on their own are few and far betweeen.
@stateroad (730)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I know this to be true for a fact. I was denied jobs because they were given to others. I do not want to brag but I was more then qualified for these jobs. The people who were handed these jobs were less then qualified I know this because I was stuck training them to do these jobs. I am sorry but this is a horrible situation and I am bitter when I have to talk about this. I mean I am not given the job but then I have to train the people for these jobs it does not seem fair.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Feb 07
Please never apologize for showing your true honest feelings, I know where you are coming from and thanks for sharing.
16 Feb 07
Sadly this happens all the time. My partner has seen jobs he has been interested in applying for but he knows it will be down to who you know, not what you know. So nine times out of ten he won't even apply. Top jobs are always given to thoses who have been to public schools and in the UK the Freemason Society keep it in 'the family' after a funny handshake!!! I used to work in the theatre and every job was usually given by those who you knew. So many CV's would be sent in applying for jobs from people who had studied theatre at college, but they would rarely get a look in. This is a very closed shop.
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• United States
16 Feb 07
Around here, people lose out all the time, especially if you don't know someone or are related to someone. I attended a highschool in a rather small town. When it came to scholarship time for college, a girl, a very snobby one, that had a mother who worked for the Board of Education and whom held a pretty high position, recieved several scholarships equaling several thousand dollars. She obviously didn't need it. Both her mother and father held high paying jobs, her mother held two, one for the school and another in real estate. She didn't need it, but since her parents are influential, she recieved more scholarships equaling more money than any of the other students involved.
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@sandphinx (131)
16 Feb 07
I worked on the principal that it is not what you know or even who you know but what you know about who you know and I have always got on just fine with this. The only other expression I live by is keep your friends close but your enemies even closer.
@ogtuwan (312)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
I actually experienced this... I didn't get the job, because they say they prefer the ones with EXPERIENCE.. right... okay... only to find out that the person they hired was a relative of one of the employees of that company... o well... sometimes... that's how companies eventually lose profits... :) getting the wrong people.. lol!
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@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I definitely agree and believe in this statement, especially lately. It seems like in order for someone to get a good job, you have to know someone that already works there that can help you get into the company. After working small jobs when I was younger, I feel that I got my first good job working at the bank because the hiring manager already knew me from doing the newspaper route when I was younger. She knew that I was a good worker and was reliable. I did not have any previous office jobs before getting hired at the bank. My second banking job was also because I knew people in that company.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
16 Feb 07
This does happen a lot. Sometimes I feel I've missed out because I don't know the right people. But in some ways, it makes sense. If you were hiring, wouldn't you hire someone you knew something of, rather than a complete stranger?
@dan20071 (724)
• Romania
17 Feb 07
This saying is very true, especially in our times. You could have all the experience in the world if you don't have good recommandations. But, happily, even in those kind of times you can impress someone with what you know and saying what he seems to want to hear. You can't know someone right from the beginning, but you can stand aside and watch his temper, and than, act as though you would be the perfect candidate. If you want to get somewhere, you must be known by many people in that bussiness, and not only known, but also admired..
@not4me (1711)
• United States
16 Feb 07
American GS workers in foreign countries are the worst. You can't get a job over there because the bids are carefully written for certain people - they brag about a fair system but only golden boys and officer's wives get hired. I didn't have time to wait and had to give up. I got work out in town and I'm so glad I did. Also people would get hired if they were already married to Japanese locals as this was a wayy for them to get job security without haveing to denounce US citizenship and become a Japanese citizen (Japan didn't allow dual-citizenship). It was all-around inbred.
@ikinta (1236)
• Indonesia
17 Feb 07
well like it or not..thats the way its always been. not that qualifications do not matter, but its not enough. that why networking is important.
• United States
16 Feb 07
Yes, I have to agree, and it happens in so many things, not only jobs. However, the job issue is quite prevalent. I have a friend who moved back home to Georgia, and she was my coworker. She was jobless for a long time, until she finally found a job. But, she was telling me(as she was job hunting) that it was very stressful and difficult to find a job, because it was all about all the people you know, and what you can do for them. She is African American, and she said, that she had forgotten how messed up the South is...because she had been living in California (with her dad), and even though it is like that a bit in California (as in a lot of states), it is not as bad as the South.
• United States
16 Feb 07
Oh, her mom and sister are in Georgia...and her half siblings and dad are in Cali.
• Brazil
16 Feb 07
I dont like this question
• United States
17 Feb 07
Then you only posted to it to get your cash built up. How unethical...
• Brazil
16 Feb 07
That's you're saying is true saddly, there are always people taking advantage of this kind of situations, frankly speaking it never happened to me, but I have some friends who already went through this and it's not fair, I think what should counts is your skills in order to get a job and not your circles of friends, but as we are living in a world where image counts much more than content we need to be prepared to get through this, that's life, right??
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
16 Feb 07
True, thanks for your response and welcome to Mylot
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
well, sad reality, but this happens - everywhere. sometimes you need to know the right people to have a certain job done, to get a job or to do justice for a mess brought to your life. i have not experienced this in vying for a job position (or maybe i just didnt know i lost it that way!), but for processing documents in some offices, yes, i have. its a sad truth!
@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I have not gotten a job I applied foe once because one of the other applicants "was somebody," and I wasn't. And I was much better qualified-- but I guess they wanted a local "semi-celebrity" on their staff. In truth, though, I have felt the "it's WHO you know" paradigm more when it has come to promotions, than when it comes directly applying for work. There are a lot of different versions of nepotism out there-- my girlfriend 10 years ago got laid off from a major corporation where her second-line and third-line manager's were having an affair, and the third-line didn't like her so they found a way to end her job.
• Nigeria
16 Feb 07
wolfie34, you should know that we live in the dispensation of NEPOTISM.another name for it is "CONNECTION".it's a painful issue, when you have qualifications for a job, and they gave it to someone else who doesn't have the qualifications.maybe,he is related to the BOSS or the CHAIRMAN of the company.
@stibigirl (291)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I am personally experiencing this right now. I have found my job through a friend, that is in upper management in the same company. I did get the job because she invited me to lunch to meet a co-worker and he said that I should try to get a job there, they both put in a word for me and two days later I had an interview, the next day I had the job. It is who you know and not what you know that will most likely get you through the door.
@bursuc (26)
• Romania
16 Feb 07
in my case is diferent. i've worked in a diferent place and my boss was just a coleg there with me. When he left and started his new business he employed me because he knew that i'm very good at what i'm dooing and ofcourse ofered me more money then i was makeing on my last job. so you can't callit nepotism in my case. but is true: it's who you know that metter.
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
sometimes true but more often not really.. I have worked from two companies wherein I only help myself.. I don't have this idea to ask help from other personnel close to me from the company.. I want to be proud of myself... I got the position by my own skills prior to my capabilities. Gudbye to those cheaters and Losers!!! Got lost to those persons who got something because they are well known or they know a popular and powerful one.. what a f***... Pity to yourself losers!...