Make Him Pay!

@lisado (1228)
United States
February 27, 2007 8:47pm CST
Did anyone catch tonight's episode of Dr. Phil? The lady that had been burned by her ex (who she is now back together with) that started a website for women who wanted to get back at the men that wronged her? www.makehimpay.net is the website. I guess you can get services, too, like setting him up with a fake text to see if and how he responds when he calls back, and she also will send fake letters about STDs and pregnancys, as well. What do you think? Could you do any of the things she did (glued her ex's doorlocks so he couldn't put keys in them, broke into his house and glued his thermastat as high up as it would go, and so on) to an ex? Do you think they should get in trouble for doing this stuff. She says that they are pranks and won't impact the guy's life (like the fake STD letters and such) and Dr Phil was telling her that yes, it could. Anyway, what do you think about it? I looked over the website and couldn't believe some of the ideas of how to get revenge on a man who scorned me! No way I'd do them.
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@patgalca (16696)
• Orangeville, Ontario
28 Feb 07
Two wrongs don't make a right. You seek revenge and it will turn around and bite you in the butt. Hold your head high and move on. Don't stoop to the idiot's level.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
28 Feb 07
First, I think the fake letters or "set up" type things are only for women who don't trust their guy already and should probably dump him anyway. We have this thing on a local radio station called "War of the Roses" where the station calls a guy pretending to be a flower shop and tells him as a promotion he can send a dozen roses to anyone he wants. Little does the guy know that his girlfriend is listening in and spying on him to see if he sends them to HER or someone else. To me, you wouldn't do anything like that unless you don't trust the guy... although it is kind of funny ;) Second, the revenge things are totally immature. All that lady is doing by going through his house and doing that stuff is causing herself trouble because she will be the one getting fined for destroying his stuff. The best thing you can do when someone scorns you is cut them out of your life completely. By enacting revenge, it's almost like you are showing them you still care about them because you still must interact with them. If you cut them out completely, even when they really start to miss you, you'll be the winner then :)
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@lisado (1228)
• United States
1 Mar 07
We used to have a radio station that did that when we were in California. Amazing how many guys got caught because they sent to flowers to someone else! I know that they suspect cheating but I think that sending fake STD letters and stuff is wrong. She said that it was a prank (and that there is even a disclaimer at the bottom of the page if they read down that far) and isn't disruptive to their lives. Dr.Phil asked her why she couldn't get on with her life and get past it and she said that she had and that she was helping women who were wronged by men, so they deserved it. About that time she said that she and the ex were back together. He must be 7 kinds of an idiot! Phil also asked why she didn't do it for men, too, and she said that the men were generally in the wrong and that the women wouldn't do this unless he really took advanage of, cheated on and/or hurt her. Phil said and who are these men cheating with? She said other women (crowd started laughing) and he goes BINGO! Women are not always the innocent party but she didn't see it that way. Basically the men are always at fault and the women should get their revenge so they can move on and get past him. Apparently she thinks that you have to vandialize the guy or something to get revenge or you'll never be happy again.
@cher913 (25859)
• Canada
28 Feb 07
Wouldn't they get charged with mischief? I think they would here (in Canada) and thats a chargable offence...not sure tho... as for me, no I wouldn't...what a great example for your kids eh?
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@lisado (1228)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Techincally she could have been arrested for breaking and entering and probably vandalizm but he didn't press charges and actually took her back after all of the stuff she did! I can't remember all of the things that she did to him. Wash all of his clothes in boiling water so they would shrink, glued his door locks so the keys wouldn't work, broke in and glued his thermostat and so on. I guess he decided not to charge her so, from what she said, the police were never involved. I'd have had the cops out there first thing. I can't believe he let all of that go!
@freak369 (5122)
• United States
28 Feb 07
The best revenge is simply doing nothing. Why? If you erase them from your life and give them absolutely no power over you, then you are in control. Sure I have done the revenge things in the past but I found it a lot better to just get rid of their junk, all the momentos and never look back. You'd be surprised at how guys react when you just freeze them out of your life and don't give them a a second thought. I don't like Dr. Phil to start with so I never watch his show. Revenge eventually comes back full circle so what you dole out will make its way to your doorstep in due time.
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@lisado (1228)
• United States
1 Mar 07
We didn't used to watch him but he had a few stories that were interesting so we record it on the DVR and watch it when we get time. This story appealed to me because I wanted to try to wrap my head around why she would do this and the more she explained the more nuts I thought she was! lol
@monet0077 (156)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I missed the show, but it sounds to me like she was a little overboard. She went into his house? She's lucky is he doesn't file charges against her. What is really sad is that that website is making money off of people's pain and anger.
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@rusty2rusty (6758)
• Defiance, Ohio
28 Feb 07
I understand about wanting to get revenge on my ex husband. But the best revenge I ever had was forgiving him long ago. What she is doing and capable is not just wrong but illegal. Breaking into someones house to pull a prank. Could and will land her in jail. She could even possible get charged with stalking. She doe snot sound like she has her brain wired right.
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• United States
1 May 07
I loved that episode, even though Dr. Phil didn't really like her, but I went to her site, almost a year ago, when she first created it I heard about it somewhere and posted a profile on my ex that was a huge player. It made me feel so good to post about him and all the horrible things he did to me, I highly recommend it to others that went through something like that.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
My only thing with this is that what if he did the same thing to you? Say he went to a site like this and posted your picture and a bunch of stuff about you, true or not? It's hard to say what is real and what isn't on the internet anymore. It's been used and abused so much that you have to be careful what you do because someone can turn it around and spread it all over the net and it not be true. Not saying what you posted wasn't true, but I could see my ex making up a bunch of stuff about me and posting it all over just to make me miserable.
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• United States
28 Jun 07
I understand completely, in fact, I have had that exact same thing happen to me (where someone posted inaccurate information on the net and I couldn't get it removed and it was horrible inaccurate) and I remember how it made me feel, but in my instance the pain was so relevent and had been placed upon me for more years than I should have let it, to me it was closure to a bad relationship, I doubt anyone will ever know who he is (my ex that I put on that site) but it sure made me feel better to tell the world, so to speak, on that site.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
I imagine it did make you feel better to get it out that way. When I am upset it helps to get it all out in writing (well, typing now). I can throw the writings away or whatever but just getting those feelings out helps so much! When my husband and I got into an arguement I'd go to another room and put everything down on paper. I could say what I meant better in writing than I could in words.
• United States
28 Feb 07
That is hilarious. I do believe that vengece taken upon an ex is quite childish. People change. They may go about some things the wrong way but averyone has their reasons. I believe that everything happens for a reason, and if you were meant to be with a person then you would be with them. Going back and torturing people will not make a guy want you back, (and if it does then maybe you both have some screws loose) but the point is that we all gotta grow up sometimes.
@2bepink (126)
• United States
4 Mar 07
Her behavior is very childish and she will eventually go to jail. Usually behavior like this just continues to escalate.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
I guess some people don't learn, though, since he did take her back. I agree with the screws loose! Even if I was thinking about taking someone back, if they did that kind of stuff to me I wouldn't take them back. Imagine what they might do if you broke up with them again?
@kelly60 (4548)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I never saw the show, but I had read a book that was similar to the website years ago. I don't recall the name of the book, but the book had tons of ways to get back at someone. While I will admit that there are many things listed that go WAY overboard, there were also many harmless pranks listed as well. Even so, I don't suppose there is a law against making the suggestions, although I'm sure that some of the acts (such as breaking into the home) are illegal. I know that I would never carry most of these deeds out myself, and even if I did, they would be much less harmful than some of the other things I could come up with. As I said before I didn't see the show, but I must admit though that I found a few in the book to be at least mildly amusing.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
I'm waiting for someone to do something, get in trouble by the law for it and then have them blame her and her website saying they "made" them do it!
@kelly60 (4548)
• United States
28 Jun 07
This is true, there are people who would try to use that as a defense.
@modomains (195)
• United States
3 May 07
I just think it's interesting that when a man hurts a woman's heart, lies, cheats, and acts immature, there are no laws broken. But when a woman glues up the thermostat in his house then she could go to jail. What's more painful? It is just obvious that the laws were made by men for men!
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
If they are married then it is technically breaking the law. It's adultry. It isn't enforced very often, but it could be. Breaking into someone's house is also breaking the law, even if you think they deserve it.
@candygurl24 (1880)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
I went through the whole site, had quite a few good laughs at stories, revenge ideas etc. and even thought..oh, I know someone who I could do that to, BUT I wouldn't actually go that far to get back at someone. The way I see it, frig them, it's their loss. They are low for cheating, beating etc. Not the victims of it.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
1 Mar 07
She said that that was one reason that she did it, to help people get over their anger and to get on with their lives. She said that not all of the people use her suggestions but that they read what she had done, laugh and tell her thanks for making them laugh again. Nuts!!
• Canada
1 Mar 07
I saw this show and it drove me nuts how the woman kept saying "Oh I'm completely over it", "I'm definitely over it"... again and again. Then we come to find out that she got back together with the guy that caused her to start the website in the first place and they've been together for a year! That's some way to "get over him," isn't it?!
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
lol We thought the same thing! Obviously if you keep haunting the person you aren't over them. I don't know which one was more bonkers. Her for taking him back or him for wanting to have anything to do with her again!
• United States
28 Feb 07
Oh my goodness! I'm upset that I missed this episode. I love Dr. Phil's topics. I'm so glad Oprah found him, but I did hear of a similar website called dontdatehimgirl.com and women give pics of their exes and give their horror stories. You can look 'em up by location, too. I mean, it's pretty handy if a girl recently met a guy she's unsure about but a website on revenge and pranks? That's pretty funny but a little far-fetched.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
The bad thing is that someone could post your info and a bunch of bunk about you and there isn't much you can do about it. You might contact the webmaster to get it taken down, but you have to hope they'll do it. My ex cheated on me twice, we got divorced and he had the nerve to tell people that I left HIM for a woman! He thought it was funny. I was no amused. Neither was my husband (boyfriend at the time). His new relationship wasn't working out, and mine was. I think he was hoping to make me miserable again since I had moved on. Didn't happen, but I still wasn't happy with some of the garbage he was saying about me.
• United States
28 Feb 07
This sounds like stalking to me! It also sounds completely psycho and over the top. It's better to just work through the pain, feel the anger and try and let it go eventually. Even now, after twelve years I still feel some rage when I think about my ex. However I tell myself he's out of my life and I'm very happy right now. One more word to think of before trying out the revenge thing: Karma.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
Same here! My ex cheated on me, twice. I found out about them at the same time. There are still times when I feel hatred and rage toward him, but I know it bothers him more that I moved on, remarried and had two kids. My life is much better since he got out of it. Oh, and Karma is a wonderful thing. He actually had the nerve to cry to me when the girl he left me for (and married) cheated on HIM! What goes around comes around!
• United States
28 Feb 07
Watching Dr. Phil yesterday, I was in complete disbelief of this gal and her lust for revenge! Most of us in our lives have probably become so angry that we may have thought about different acts of revenge but this lady really has taken it to the extreme in my opinion. But the real kicker was the reality that she was back together again with the fellow that had ignited all of this revenge in the first place! Can you say hypocrite? It was just a real crazy episode that will stay with me for awhile and make me think twice about things. Little things can damage a person more than we would ever know.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I felt the same way. I couldn't believe that she didn't see anything wrong with what she was doing and thought it was normal! Crazy!!
@sigma77 (5384)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Gee, I wonder if revenge ever makes a person better off in the long run? This woman is nuttier than a fruitcake, I think. If she was wronged by some guy, then why did she stay with him? Maybe she allowed or enabled him to mess up. And now, you say she is back with him? This loon-bird needs a ticket to Mars where she can stay with Brittney. Now I know why I never watch Dr Phil. If this is the sensationalism he is spouting nowadays, who needs it? The bottom line is that revenge never helps the person pursuing it. It is far better to forgive and forget and move on. That is the healthy and sane way to live.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
Not all of his shows are this way. He has had some good ones on lately, like the one about the grandfather that sexually molested his granddaughter while he and his wife were supposed to be watching her. It reminds you that anything can happen to your children and gave you warning signs to watch for and what to do if it happens in your family. This episode was mostly around trying to figure out why she was doing this kind of thing and why he would take her back after she did them. Dr. Phil was trying to tell her she needed to move and and get over him and she kept saying she was over him, but then she talked about what she did to him next. She never did see that she had a problem. Since he took her back, he obviously has issues, too.
@coolcatzz (1587)
• Canada
28 Feb 07
Oh I missed his show yesterday. Darn. Well I think if you are really scorn you might think about doing stuff to your ex but following through is another story. Really you should just end it and move on. What is pulling pranks really going to do for you? It just keeps you tied down to that part of your life that you really don't need. I'll have to watch for this show in reruns. Thanks for mentioning though.
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
I thought about doing a lot of things to my ex but never acted on them. I think it bothered him more when I walked away and moved on with my life almost like he wasn't a part of it.
@jsae29 (1120)
• Philippines
28 Feb 07
I wish I could also those things to my ex. LOL. But I do not hanve the guts to. If a my ex or any person harmed me, I'd rather get back to him the right way. File legal/criminal charges against him and make him pay the right way. I like the saying Do Not Get Mad...Get Everything!
@lisado (1228)
• United States
28 Jun 07
ROFL I hadn't heard that saying, but I have to admit that I like it! I also don't have the guts to do any of the stuff she says to do. I know that if someone is going to get in trouble with the law or get caught, it's going to be me. If it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any! :)
@tmlnmr (1850)
• Canada
5 Jul 07
Man this woman needs to get a life! I had a neighbor like that actually and I had split up with my hubby( before we were married) and she said I should clean out the bank account and the house and leave him with nothing. When I didn't do that she broke in and stole some stuff and broke some things in here when I was not here. She was really a psycho and this lady sounds like she is as well. The fact that the guy is back with her makes me think that he is a few bricks short of a full load as well! :)
@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
15 Mar 07
I think the best revenge is finding someone better and being happy.