USA Taxes - Earned Income Credit? Refund or Welfare?

United States
February 28, 2007 3:51pm CST
The United States has something called the Earned Income Credit, it is basically this. If you make a small enough amount of money and you file taxes, you can get more money back then you paid in. The more kids you have, the more income you can have and still qualify. My question is this: We have a welfare system, different forms of public aid, why is money being given out through the "income tax" system as well? As far as I'm concerned, that's stealing from those who have to pay tax. Income tax is income tax, there should not be any way that you should be allowed to get more money back then you paid in, it's just outrageous. I'm all for public assistance for those who need it, unemployment benefits, etc... but this is an easy way for people to abuse the system, hide income and make more money. Not to mention the people who take advantage of it, i.e. cash income so they don't claim it and then claim the EIC and get even more money back. Does anyone else think anything on this issue (either way, I'm cool with debate!)
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• United States
1 Mar 07
I have to disagree with you on this one. Actually it is for parents who are trying and still at poverty level but not getting public assistance. You can only claim 2 children on the EIC. Its a reward for working hard and to help with day care and medical expenses. As far as hiding money its not your minimum wage worker that is hiding money for the purpose of tax evasion. You will not find them sinking their hard earned money in fraudulent charities. It is not as you say easy money for working parents but help they so badly need. The penalty for non reported income far out weighs the couple of thousand dollars extra the EIC provides. For some families its the only time of the year they can purchase such things as cars, or home improvements, get bills paid, braces for their children that sort of thing that otherwise they have to do with out.
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• United States
1 Mar 07
I can understand that, but at the same point, if we have people that truly need assistance, we should update our welfare system to help them. Using our income tax system for it is just not a good idea, there is no true "check" on whether it goes to someone who needs it. Many who claim it don't deserve it and not only does that cost regular tax people money, but it takes away from the amount of funding that can go towards the needy. If only 1 in 50 people that get it actually need it, where does that leave us? Income tax is not meant to be public assistance, we need formal programs set up for that so that people that need help can get it and people who don't can't abuse it. Would n't the money be better spent improving our current public assistance programs and letting more people qualify?
• United States
2 Mar 07
Good morning Debbie sorry I did not get back to you yesterday had a real busy day. I did a little research on the EIC and this is what I found. 1) the EIC is the most heavily audited tax credit by the IRS. 2) it was formed to provide relief to hardworking low income families to off set the high SS and medicare taxes 3)It actually promotes work ethics and lowers poverty in low income families. Honestly I believe there to be more fraudulant activities in our welfare system than this Tax credit. Why give people more incentive to not work and live on those taxes we pay so heavily. My oldest Son and his wife claimed the earned income credit for two years their oldest child in now three, this year they did not qualify as there income was above the guidelines. But for two years when they was struggling to finish school(daughter in law in nursing school) it was a blessing. Now they have bought a new home, making enough money to meet there needs and save too. They might not be where they are today if not for that credit which was used to pay tuition. Don't you think the goverment wins in the long run? Now you have a family independant and paying taxes in. No I do not think that money belongs in the public assistance domain. Look how many illegals we have in that system and people we have made so dependant on a welfare system that desperately needs reform. Here in TN we have what is called families first, and what that does is give you a two year span to go to school, get the help you need and go to work. If you have not met your goals by the end of that two years you are just cut off. Not the children mind you they still get aid in the form of medical care and food stamps, but the parents do not get the monies assistance. But even here it is abused. We had a health program called TENN Care and believe it or not it was the doctors and the HMO's that ruined that program with fraudulate services and claims. So no I do not believe at all that this credit should be taken away from hardworking families that want a better life. :)))
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