What would you do if you were in this situation?

Birthday invitation - Royalty-free clip art of a birthday invitation.
@dmillman (2273)
United States
March 1, 2007 7:14pm CST
This is question that was sent to Miss Conduct and I'm curious as to how you would respond. I saved her response, and I'll post it after numerous people have answered. So, here's the question:My husband and I recently received an invitation to our niece's 3rd birthday party. Enclosed was a list of suggested gifts, which I found bold and even offensive. I've taken an informal poll of my mommy friends: Most are appalled and find gift lists tacky. A few applauded my sister-in-law's practicality, because she will avoid unnecessary returns. In our circle of friends, we're more likely to see "no gifts please" or "in leiu of gifts, we'd love a donation to Children's Hospital". Am I being a prude, or are gift lists the wave of the future for children's birthday parties?So, think about it and then let me know how you feel about this situation. What would you have done if you were the one writing the letter? What you you do if you were Miss Conduct - how would you respond? Just curious as to how others feel about this.
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@Wanderlaugh (1622)
• Australia
2 Mar 07
A gift list would make sense if it had much to do with the kid. A subsequent life spent returning unwanted gifts and exercising endless tact with friends for no reason other than choice of gifts is hardly helpful, I agree. But- Most people have some sense of appropriate gifts, and even if there are a few clangers, a gift list is really a restriction. Some people are quite generous, and could be offended on principle if asked to give trivial things. A good friend who really makes an effort to give a good present would perhaps be put off their personal choice, thinking that these were "required" presents. Another thing about gift lists is the potential to get several of the same thing. That's just not useful. I think the idea needs a bit of work, and something saying "If you're not sure what present you'd like to give, these are suggested gifts" would be a better approach, and less like a shopping list.
• United States
2 Mar 07
I agree. The list could be used as a suggestion list not a required gift list.
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@joodzki6 (596)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
i agree as well...for me including gifts list on the invitation is unethical. well, we should respect once will of giving gift or not...because we don't have to required our visitors to bring something..let's just invite them to come and be thankful if they did... the gifts will be just a bonus on the celebration. let's not be particular into material things...don't you just thought that their presence on the celebration is already a wonderful gift?? ...
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Wanderlaugh, I agree with your last sentence - it totally makes sense to do it that way. It sounds a lot nicer too. And if their your friends, you'd want to be nice, right?
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• United States
2 Mar 07
I think it's rude. It's like begging for a gift. Also, as many others have mentioned, your sister-in-law might have to make even more returns than usual if several people get the same thing from the list. Plus, the gifts might cost more than some people feel they can spend. If people wanted to call her for suggestions, that would be one thing, but to give a list is tacky.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
That's it, they could put on the invitation that if you need suggestions to give a call. That way there would be less of a risk of duplcates, triplicates, etc. That way you don't have to feel that you have to get a certain present, but have the option to call if you've got no idea what to get the child!
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@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
2 Mar 07
for me, i find it a little bit bold as it is not a common practice in my family... i don't think we will ever write a gift list in our birthday invitation to anyone... for us, it is just rude and seems like begging for gifts... if people come to my birthday party, it is already a gift for me since they are allocating their time to attend my party... that is more than enough... if they bring gifts to me, it is even better and i won't be so choosy about it... it is a gift and we just have to accept it whatever it is and whether we like it or not... if we don't like it, we can decide to give it away or donate it... that's about it...
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
That's true too. I'd be happy if they found the time to attend the party, since we all live such busy lives and rarely see each other.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
That's true too. I'd be happy if they found the time to attend the party, since we all live such busy lives and rarely see each other.
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@lauriefnp (5111)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I have gone to numerous family parties for children's birthdays as well as those of my friends' children. Most people will write "no gifts, please". In fact more often than not they don't expect gifts. A few people have put a small dollar limit on it such as a maximum of $20, which I also think is a good idea. I like the idea of donations to a charity in lieu of gifts, although I have never seen it before. That's one that more parents should consider. I think that a gift list is impractical (there may still be duplicates of gifts that need to be returned) and it is extremely rude. Many people would resent receiving this list, I would think. I know that I would think the mother was pretty bold if she were to do this. The next thing you know they'll be asking for cash only...
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I like the in leiu of gifts thought. I think that would teach children about helping others, that recieving isn't always good as giving, that their are people worse off than they are. It's a good idea.
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@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
2 Mar 07
If this is not normal practice in your family, I find it rather bold. On the other hand, it is really no different than if you were to call the parents and ask what their daughter might like for her birthday. I think it might be more common to ask what the child might be able to use and get suggestions from the parents. I don't know that this is the wave of the future. If the gift list had items on it that you can't afford, that is one thing. And what would happen if 3 people all decide on the same item from the list? How would you know what others might be buying from the list? I think I would call the parents and make a few of your own suggestions as to what you want to buy and see how they react. Sometimes parents try to out-do each other with kids parties and whatnot. I don't know if this falls into that category. Personally, it is not worth getting upset over or making an issue of. You cannot control what others do, only do the things you want. As in you have control over how you celebrate you own kids birthdays.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
That's very true. I don't have kids, so it doesn't affect me, but I wasn't sure what I'd do if I were in her shoes. I'm thinking that just because there is a list, it doesn't mean you need to follow it if you don't want to. But if you're stuck for an idea, I think I'd call the parents for an idea that wasn't on the list. There's got to be somethings they left off, so they don't seem selfish or whatnot. Parents shouldn't be trying to outdo one another. I mean, what does that teach their children? I do what I want and forget about others. If I did it their way, I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much as I would have if I did it my own way.
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• United States
2 Mar 07
I believe gift lists are great.The only problem I see is if two or more guests bring the same gift.In my family we always give out our Christmas lists.Then family members discuss what to get. That way you know the person will love the gift.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I do a Christmas list too and let my family talk about who's getting what. That way I end up with gifts I need or want. Since I'm financially stressed out I ask for things that I need, and a few things that I'd like (but couldn't afford it for myself). Plus if I don't have a list, God only knows what I'd get.
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@missybal (4490)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I don't think there is anything wrong with it... for one I'd appreciate the help, in deciding what to get how ever I would see them simply as suggestions and I may stray off the list but at least the list would give me a general idea on what the child would like. Say maybe it will tell me what cartoon characters the child likes and maybe the list has on it Care Bear stuff animal but I get a CareBear blanket instead. Maybe the list is more learning items. Anyways I wouldn't see it as tacky of course if it's worded wrong then I may take it as an insult, like if it sounded like I wouldn't know what is appropriet for a 3 year old. And the list better not have all expensive items either.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Hey, that's an idea. What if the parent included a list of things the child likes, such a care bears, barbie, etc. and you'd be able to look for items related to that interest. Maybe that would be more helpful. But then, you could still get dupes. See their doesn't seem to be jsut one answer.
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• United States
3 Mar 07
Hmm..I think I would just go without a gift. I hate the whole gift list thing. It is like saying your gift won't be good enough, so don't bother just bring what I tell you too. When I'm invited to a b-day party, I call and ask if the parent if she has any suggestions. Especially if it is someone in my child's class that I don't know. I want to take a gift but I don't know what the child likes. I will ask for suggestions then but that doesn't mean I'm getting what the parent suggests.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Makes tons of sense to me!
@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
sometimes a gift list is useful because it does give you an idea what to give without the worry that the gift may be returned or not appreciated. But in a sense it is tacky, because the essense of gift giving especially for kids is the surprise of receiving the gift, tearing the wrapping paper, a bit breathless in excitement. A gift list for me is practical in weddings. In birthdays, it seems to limit the kind of gifts that you can give, especially for a child. If this is becoming a trend, then it is kind of alarming. Because most of the time, the parents are the ones who are making the gift list. I still prefer the old fashioned, gift giving idea. Big and small packages in bright colored paper, and the look of excitement in the childs' eyes as they wonder what the box holds inside.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Hadn't tbought of it that way either. That's why I like asking the myLot community - I get ideas I wouldn't have thought of on my own!
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@Bee1955 (3882)
• United States
2 Mar 07
OK, since your sister probably isnt in your circle of friends, I'd say she did a good thing. She gave you a list of what she feels is appropriate gifts for her child, and didnt want anyone to waste their timer and money getting something she'd hate to return and maybe offend the giver. If you look at it this way, thats why we make registries/wishlists for engagements, weddings, aniversaries at stores. Adding birthdays to the wishlist idea is just as convienent. I like the idea.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Well you appear to be in the minority so far. But, your thougths do make sense as well.
@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Perhaps I am a bit old fashioned. I find the inclusion of a gift list rather bold. I would be taken aback for sure! To me it stops creativity and variety. Also, in my eyes, it is a 'gift' when friends join the birthday child to celebrate their friendship and the birthday child's special day. Who says that one even has to bring a gift? To include a 'list' would imply that you were expected to bring a gift. (not that most wouldn't bring one to a 3-year old anyway...but still, you don't beg!) I don't know, it just seems ill-mannered to me!
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
You go girl!!!
• United States
2 Mar 07
That seems extremely presumptious. There is a difference between getting an idea of what you should give, or get, than outright stating it in the invitation. My family are pretty against this kind of over-doing it, because it puts pressure on the guests, and it is plain rude. Some people, just do not buy gifts, maybe they make things, etc. Also, when I got married, I did not register, because I just did not want to be rude, and, neither did my sisters, because it is just sometimes, inappropriate. And, for a child's birthday party, that just seems too much. Too over the top, really. I do not agree with the sister-in-law, it is too overly presumptious and not very appropriate.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
I didn't register for my wedding because we already had duplicates of many things, so we didn't need that kind of stuff. We really needed money, and that's what we mainly got. We went into debt for our wedding, because it's a special day, so we wanted it to be special for us.
@inked4life (4224)
• United States
2 Mar 07
To me it's no different than a gift registry for a wedding. I agree with one of the previous posters that it should be used for reference only and not a hard and fast rule that those are the only items you are allowed to purchase. In all, I think it's a pretty good idea as my kids get invited to a bunch of birthday parties for their classmates who we don't know very well so this really helps when deciding ehat to buy.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Well, my answer to this post is the same as the above post - so check it out.
• United States
2 Mar 07
I would make my own mental list for when people ask me what they like. Then, if I know the person can't afford anything big, I may say "don't worry about it, just come and enjoy the party". Or I would rather give them theme items to look for like Spiderman or Star Wars stuff. I would never list items on an invitation.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
2 Mar 07
That's what I was thinking too. The parents make a list of gift suggestions in case they get called. Make sure there are some inexpensive gift suggestions, so that those hurting financially can still contribute. That's great!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
2 Mar 07
Personally I think that there can be a happy medium in this situation. For example: "Gifts are not expected, but if you do wish to give a gift our daughter would love to receive one of the following!" It can help some people that are uncertain what to get and can also help to make sure that multiple gifts of a similar nature are not given. Practical and helpful in my opinion if handled diplomatically!
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
For birthdays, I think that's a great idea. For weddings, I don't agree. Also, I might add to what you stated "Or if you prefer, you may give a donation to XYZ in (child's name).
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
hahaha! Personally, I would appreciate it if the people who are asking me to donate something to a charitable institution but for a birthday party, well, that is another story. I mean, it's good to be practical but you do not really have to be so aggressive about getting something as a gift. LOL
@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
That's an interesting perspective.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I personally think the gift list is both rude and a good idea. It is rude to send a gift list. When doing something like this you are basically you are stated "I am inviting you to come because of what I can extort from you" On the other hand if a person has abitually requested gift lists from a parent example, we are always asking his sister "what do the girls want" at Christmas, and rarely being told, or being told to give them something she forgot she told someone else. But supposedly the birthday party is about the child celebrating her life, and being glad that she is part of this world. I realize it is traditional to purchase a gift for a child on his/her birthday but the child's mother should wait until asked for a gift list before offering. I also feel this way about baby showers, bridal showers, etc. While it is annoying if someone gets double or triple gifts, and I think it shows a lack of gratitude when the person receiving the gift opens something and shouts "another toaster" Hey when giving a gift the option of returning it is always there, but try to realize that sometimes you friends and family can't afford the expensive things you want. If they could maybe they would be buying those things for themselves as well. The mother sending the invititation was showing that she was greedy, that she was only inviting people because of what she could get or expect from them, and this is rude, this may not have been her intention, but this was the result.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Well, for bridal showers/weddings they send the invitation with the store(s) they're registered at. You can use those stores, to at least get an idea of what they're looking for and go get something else. I mean, if you don't, you could end up with 20 frying pans or something foolish like that. Just because they're registered there, doesn't mean that you have to go there.
@pagibig (297)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
Gift lists are very practical. It's actually very common in our family. We do it in almost all kinds of occassions. I mean at least the guests will have an idea of what we want and what could be useful to us.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Ya know, I'm beginning to think it has more to do with how you and your circle of friends and relatives do it too. If your group usually does lists, then do lists. If not, that's fine to. Just do what you feel comforatble with.
• Canada
2 Mar 07
I don't really like the idea of "Gift lists" for kids birthdays. Thats a little tacky. My cousin had a gift list for her Wedding where you chose what you were going to buy them and tore the page out so that nobody else would buy the same thing. It's a practical thing, but a lot of people find them offensive.
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@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
I find them acceptable for weddings. It's just a great way to avoid duplicates. Instead of registering with one store, you should do at least two though, so people have more options. Just a thought.
@catbvq (364)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
I am shocked! We should not dictate or even insinuate to people what we want. We should always think of it as its the "Thought" that counts most when receiving gifts. It is very distasteful. And besides we by this conduct we'll be teaching our children to be materialistic or become selfish.
@dmillman (2273)
• United States
3 Mar 07
How very true!