Pro Choice Argument

Philippines
March 5, 2007 2:15pm CST
Imagine that an individual has extreme psychic power. Let's say his wife is pregnant. She wants to have the baby, to the point where she's already picked out the name and is in the process of painting the baby's room. He doesn't want kids. Late at night while she's asleep, he uses his psychic ability to disintigrate her unborn fetus. At no time does he harm her, or even physically affect her. He simply "erases" the fetus from her womb. Should this individual be charged with a crime? What crime has taken place? So then, what crime, if any, could this man be charged with? Destruction of property perhaps? Is it fair to conclude that the fetus is not also his property?
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@DavidReedy (2411)
• United States
5 Mar 07
This is such a bizarre question, that I can't help but to be intrigued. The fact of the matter is, you can't even talk about the subject of abortion without upsetting someone. But let's look at society's rather bizarre standards. On one hand, an abortion is a woman's perrogative--and the man involved has no legal say in the matter. The argument for most who are pro-choice is that it's not a human being until it's born. On the other hand, if you were to say kill a pregnant woman, in many states they'd charge you with two cases of homicide. So, the real question is: Which one is it? Is it a human being or not?
• Philippines
6 Mar 07
Yeah, that is an intrigue topic I ever seen here.
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@krishkorp (427)
• India
6 Mar 07
As far as i am concerned a baby should be both husb and wife's mutual decision and should be taken jointly and i would say thats not a good thing to erase a baby.Thats a crime which only god can punish.
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6 Mar 07
Woah, bad example of a pro choice argument! I am pro choice but this scenerio is too off the mark for an analogy: the baby is taken from the woman in an aggressive act against her will.... I am pro choice for many reasons, I work with children in deprived areas and see too many unwanted, consequently neglected, kids in the course of that. You can actually observe the cycle repeated in these areas - damaged child grows up, has children (usually two or three, and at an early age), damages them because he/she has no parenting skills and is copying the lead he/she has been given, his/her kids grow up, has kids....etc...etc. Another reason is the reaction of family and community in certain cases - the last of those catholic 'orphanages' in Ireland closed down as late as the eighties, y'know the ones, where single mothers and their kids were sent, kept seperately, abused, sometimes sexually, force fed the bible, and basically imprisoned. A fetus, up until a certain point in development, is just genetic matter, feeling and thinking nothing, it has no independent life outside of the mother, and is merely potential. If a woman has good reason to have this potential aborted, which includes the fact that she doesn't want it (better none existence than neglect) then that's good enough for me. It's not nice, it's not the way I'd prefer it, but it's the better of two evils.
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• United States
6 Mar 07
This doesnt really correlate to real life. Only a woman can say what happens to a fetus because ultimately she is the one who has to deal with the consequences of either decision. Men can chose to walk away at any point and alot do. That being said, if a man doesnt believe in abortion than he should make sure that he is only with women who share his beliefs. That way, there will be no issue if a woman accidentally gets pregnant.
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• United States
5 Mar 07
Well, first, you would have to PROVE that this man had this power. If we ever live in a world where this sort of power is not only an ability of some people, but also documented as being used, then YES he should be held to the standards of murder. He murdered this child. Once the child is formed (egg and sperm connected), it is a child. This is the debate going on with many people...when is a baby a baby? Well, in my mind, it is a baby the moment of conception. That is a child. It would be murder if someone had this ability.
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• United States
6 Mar 07
If he has magical psychic powers, he should also be able to erase her memory of the fetus, thus no psychological harm done.
@shomomo (850)
• Israel
7 Mar 07
hehe, good point. However this case is demonstrated in order to show that he can erase the fetus and not the fetus's memory, it's only a hypothetical case in order to show a specific point...
• United States
6 Mar 07
even while in the womb the fetus is alive,so to destroy it no matter how is murder my friend!also who would desire to be married to such a fiend?(shades of scott petersen)
@shomomo (850)
• Israel
6 Mar 07
It's difficult to say, I guess he didn't do anything wrong, plus women should do what ever they want with their body. It reminds me the story of the man who could tell the future and he saw a man killing another man, so he killed that man in order to prevent the crime, however he killed an innocent man (true that he was about to commit murder but he was still innocent at the time), so what should you do?
@mobyfriend (1019)
• Netherlands
6 Mar 07
It's weird but he could be charged maybe with damaging property. That is if the law sees a foetus as property and if the property is shared by both partners. So he could be charged for damaging her part of the property. And from another point of view I don't think he could 'disintegrate' without damage because a woman is always connected to her property.
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
6 Mar 07
He murdered his unborn child. It is as the same as if he waited for him or her to be born and smothered the baby.
@davido (1623)
• Canada
6 Mar 07
This is a case of knowing the kind of relationship you keep. Cause if this man has this powers the lady would have known and even the kind of person she has been leaving or going out with. Now in Nigeria if one has such powers and it is proven that he actually did this the police here might not be able to porsecute him/her because their is nothing to charge, but there are peoples court who will air such attrocity on the media and the people might take law into their own hand and deal with such a person but another person who has a superior power will definately come out to bring back the baby or the pregnancy! But it must be proven medically that there was a conception and the pregnacy has grown, then is it aborted or a case of miscarrige occurs.