Illegal Immigrants, Overcrowded Homes, Laws--One Country Cracking Down...
By mzbubblie
@mzbubblie (3839)
United States
March 10, 2007 7:20am CST
I know here in the America, there are alot of illegal immigrants here, a few years go they started evicting people in overcrowded homes, changing laws with DMV (Department of Motor Vehicle), in order to get a license or any documention they had to show proof of legal residency here...It was a huge uproar for a while then it all faded again, You very rarely hear much about what our country is doing to stop illegal immigrants from living, working, receiving benefits etc...
Now I have never lived or temporary lived in another country, however, I would think that if I were to live in another country they would want me to be living their legally...Therefore I would think it would work both ways...
Why would people, families want to move away from their country unless it's a war. Is it because they are unhappy in their own country (ie: benefits, work)
For years, I've seen on the television how illegal immigrants has work, overcrowding houses, where they have a host of family members living in a two or three bedroom home...
But, here America is not strict as it seems the UK is pushing back on illegal immigrants in their country...
The story here:
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=362622007
So my question to you is what are you're thoughts to illegal immigration? Does it bother you that so many people are in your country illegally if any? Even the housing situations being overcrowded...What are your thoughts to what the UK is setting out to do?
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7 responses
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
15 Mar 07
I agree with what they are doing in the UK. The only problem is they need to take it one step further and punish those "charities" which do provide the illegal immigrants with "assistance".
Illegal immigration is a big problem in the US. Our problem is that our politicians are NOT making a concerted nationwide effort to deal with the problem. This means that each state, county, and city/town are having to make their own laws on how to deal with this problem.
If we take away their work and/or "benefits", illegal immigrants will have three choices:
1) Some will leave voluntarily and go someplace that is "friendlier"
2) If they don't have the money to go voluntarily, they will turn themselves in for a free ticket home.
3) Turn to a life a "crime" (they are already criminals); get caught and arrested; serve their time in prison; and THEN be deported.
But, this will only work if the "charities" and other people stop supporting them!
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Personally, I don't think the children should automatically be given citizenship just because Mom snuck across the border. The children should have the same citizenship as the parents no matter where they are born.
Also, the parents KNOW that they are here illegally and risk being deported. They KNOW that if they are caught THEY have to make a choice whether to take the children with them or leave the children with someone else here in the US. We do NOT take the children away from them; unless they are being sent to prison for a crime. We have entire families in the detention centers awaiting deportation. When children are left behind, it is the parent's decision!
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Hmmm True again I agree, but again the ALL have to willing to be forceful with that law if it were in place. You are about the first person that got me thinking in another manner, I mean yes immigration exist, however, if someone pass laws as you just said and stuck by them faithfully it's a possibility it would work.
Ok, now with that thinking, no offense to anyone here, But, you know work wise spanish people honestly do majority of the jobs that americans don't want to do. Contruction, janitorial work because of how much they pay them. What would happen then, construction companies go under or start raising the prices..lol..
Here where I live on my way to work, alot of them are standing in front of certain buildings, and people come by let them know how much they would pay them for the day, and pick them up just like that. The 7-11 had a officer at their store so that they would stop lottering. I know all those people are probably getting paid under the table. However, it's everyday Monday-Friday, in different spots waiting on work...
Lastly, what about the kids that are of age, where their parents have been here for years illegally? works for the older kids also?
I like this conversation with you, I enjoy your thoughts your opinions....thank you
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
15 Mar 07
wow, very well said and also got me to thinking even deeper. You are right most things that our country says it only last for a hot minute...
But, as I thought to what you just explained, even though they are over here, they have a children(s), they are american, it would cause even more ruckess...
I personally thinks it's a no win situation, it's always going to be like this and too far gone to try to make it the right way...Unless everyone willing and you know how that goes...
@tad1fan (3367)
• Canada
11 Mar 07
I'm stuck when it comes to this subject....I am a Canadian and we have many illegal immigrants here....I even know a few on a personal basis who make jokes about my walk in closets being a 'new' home for their relatives,'rent them out'they say....these people are fleeing their homelands to be 'safe'.....between the war and the Government they NEED to get away....I believe they have a right to be here,and there,in America but LEGALLY.....if they aren't legal,they get named as people who are taking jobs away from the 'natives' because they'll work,basically for free.....one thing I don't agree with is how they can come to our country 'legally',open a business and hire no one but their own,just to bring them over......I belive that if we are willing to give them a chance in our world and hire them,they should be willing to hire US as well....
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
11 Mar 07
Granted very true, I just believe that they should do the right thing and legally be here as you said.
Let me give you an example...about 8 mile up the street from me, there are shopping centers that cater to the Spanish community. Reason I never go over there is because all the stores names are in Spanish. Obviously it's owned and operated by Spanish...
In the mornings on my commute for work. Tons and Tons of Spanish men be standing in parking lots waiting for people to come by who needs help on jobs, they pay them under the table for a days work and drop them back off at the spot they picked them up after work. Construction work etc....
None of that is a issue if it's legal. We all know that it's not legal but nothing is done.
Even the Walmart in another county was busted for hiring illegal immigrants, which they were fined as a company and went to court...
It's a crazy situation...
@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
10 Mar 07
I think that it is terrible that illegal immigrants are coming here and able to get any kind of benefits or any jobs or anything else. They should be reported and sent back to their country where they belong. The sad thing is that our companies and government are allowing them to get away with all of this and using up our benefits and taking our jobs away from our own people. Some of them are here and committing other types of crimes as well which is even worse. I think that the US should follow the UK's footsteps and do the same thing.
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
10 Mar 07
Yes, I agree...the only reason why most of these employees do this is because it's cheaper and can pay them under the table, meaning no taxes...
I'm with you also, I bet if we were to go to another country, they would want it the same way...
@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
11 Mar 07
Yes I heard that there are a lot of illegal immigrants in America, mainly mexicsns, well they have to show proof at our local Motor Vehicles as well, and we have a lot of illegal immigrants as well. Of course the government wants people to be legally living in the country. There are a lot of countries where people come from that are so poor that they can't make ends meat and so they go to other countries just to try and support their families back home that is what the main reason for this is. And the housing situation is overcrowded here and they get the first houses not the people that fought for our country, or their families.
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
11 Mar 07
Yes, about 2 years ago, A county very close to me, they did a bust and evicted people not obey the Housing Occupany Law here. Single family homes with 2 or 3 bedrooms with over 10 people living in them. I actually felt bad for them, but then I thought if my family and I was in a country overcrowding homes, would they want me to abide by their laws...you know..
It's everywhere different races are illegal in different countries...
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
11 Mar 07
well there are alote of reaons for immigrating
there are countries that has a very high level of poverty and violence
and people do see that they do not have food to feed themself and the kids so they immigrate
i do wish they would be legal..but i know it is very hard to be legal and takes time.
i have to admit i do have problems with the fact that there are illigel imm.
but i can also say that i understand them
and you will have to check each case and see what to do about it.
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
11 Mar 07
That's very true, it is overall sad, I don't know the process to becoming legal or how long it takes, however, I would still be worried if I were somewhere and I knew I was illegal, always a fear of cops, or people finding out about me and be deported back, possibly never seeing my family again. That alone would make me wonder is it worth it?
@faraza (159)
• Malaysia
11 Mar 07
illegal or legal, i definitely don't want them to be in my country. But in Malaysia, we do need the immigrant to do the jobs that many Malaysians won't do for a living eg house cleaner, garbage collector. there are way too many of them now here. the place where i used to hang out is overcrowded with them, especially on weekends. i don't feel safe anymore living in my home as these immigrants involved in lots of criminal activity.
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
11 Mar 07
You know what, Here in America most illegal immigrants do work such as you described, however, it's not their faults, it's actually the employees that hire them and have them work under the table....Tax free at that...
I don't mind anyone being in my country as long as it legally. In some of the surrounding countries here, they are overpopulated, however, you never know who is legal or not...
