Indian/American Indian/Native American Mascot Debate

Janesville, Wisconsin
March 15, 2007 6:39am CST
I Have seen both sides of this debate, and the town I went to school in had changed their mascot, and team name. I have never seen any debate get so heated as this debate. I would enjoy everyone to post their reasons or why they are for or against American Indian Mascots. The Reason I am starting this thread, is still among many people. They look at the mascot issue, and they ask. "What is the big deal about a head, and a name?" ... Well. I am hoping by starting this thread, we can all help many people understand why many Native American/American Indians.. Do or Do not find the Mascots offensive. I see both sides of the coin. I have heritage of both American Indian and Non - American Indian... As others post to get the debate started, I will share and bring up many points that were made on both sides of the coin as well. - DNatureofDTrain
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• United States
3 May 07
I can understand both views I think part of the reason as I am sure you have stated is the fact the Native Americans have had everything of their culture removed or used nothing separates them.Also their holy things are misused ,I mean if a cross and confession or communion was used the way the native dance or the pipe is used people would be up in arms and no one would say they are over reacting. Of course on the schools side they feel they are honoring Native Americans I mean they want great mascots things they look up to over their schools .To them they are saying we respect the native American they are a great people we want to be brave like them proud etc we are not putting them down but raising them up as something to look up too . I agree presentation is a big thing no one likes to feel mocked I don't blame them and they have a right to complain about it .
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• Janesville, Wisconsin
3 May 07
I still am on both sides of this issue. To me it depends on what the mascot looks like, how they a presenting it, if they are mocking spirituality or not in the use of it, if they are being respectful in their uses of it... Thanks for Sharing, - DNatureofDTrain
@Woodpigeon (3710)
• Ireland
29 Apr 07
I think if it is a mascot of you, or your culture, you ae the only person who can say whether it is offensive or an honor. I have never gotten the impression that teams were named after Indians to honour them. I guess what I'm trying to say is, do you ask the Jews or Hitler of genocide is offensive? You have torespect the answer of the people who are making the complaint. There seem to be enough sharks, pirates (no offense to pirates) and many colored socks available to use as a mascot, instead. Personally, I do find them offensive. I also don't like seeing non-Indians selling 'Native American' crafts and making a buck of some traditional craftman's back.
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@MySpot (2600)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I always thought that mascots were chosen as a symbol of strength and admiration. Isn't it an honor of sorts?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
15 Mar 07
not sure what kind of mascot there should be but why not just Native american and put a cheifs pic up or dress them like the great cheif they pic?
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• Janesville, Wisconsin
16 Mar 07
I am thinking of School Spirit, and Team Playing Mascots. Now if Your school is all Native American 100% and based on Native Culture.. Then I do not see anything wrong with Native Mascots of that situation. But if its a school That is all White, using Native Mascots... Or all Native American using White people as mascots depicted like a sterotypical Redneck.. then people would be upset over that. However, in Native Cultures and Traditions, Many people do not realise how important the way they dressed, and danced for certain things is... So it goes deep into insulting Religion, Cultural Traditions, Family heirlooms, Etc.. No one wants to See their culture or heritage depicted in the wrong manner. Althought it is strange to get upset over cartoon character drawings to some... But the truth is people need to be more culturally aware. Thanks all for responding. - DNatureofDTrain
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Why don't sports teams use former Presidents of the U. S. or great Generals of the past? Because mascots are like cartoon characters. It is demeaning. Imagine a fashion purse under the brand name of General Patton instead of Crazy Horse!
• Janesville, Wisconsin
17 Mar 07
I Think it depends on how the cartoon is drawn. Some are pretty well done, and nice, others are not. I think if a person wants to represent themselves with a cartoon caracture or their own relatives, or culture. I have no problem with that. But we need to be very careful with crossing the lines of how we do cartoons, and images.. As it deeply offends, and wounds people in many ways. I Have American Indian blood, and I know I am hurt often by the Blond Haired blue eyed sterotype. "There are no blond haired blue eyed Indians" Is one that was thrown into my face all growing up.. Which is not true. The issue with Mascots is they are using Sterotypes, and Exaggerating them, and mimicking Exaggerations at times of Sacred Rituals, and this is a no no. However, this goes both ways. My family and I were at powwows and Saw all These T-Shirts, and Stuff with Saying Bashing Custer, and demeaning Caracatures... My Dad then said... How come they can sell T-Shirts like that, but if we were to sell one with there warriors on it we'd get into deep crap? ... I said Dad, I don't know but I think it's wrong. People want to make people not use Mascots, or images from their culture, or caracatures, they should be respecting enough not to do the same to other cultures... But I am also for freedom of speech, and art, etc... But I do feel very sad to see exaggerated sterotypes of any people.... - DNatureofDTrain